colovian fur 8360 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Tavern_Roleplay said: please obliterate that mesa thank you the fringe had fewer towns than this godforsaken 100% worldguard protected pay-for-charters primary region owner shithole map it had a lot of small homesteads but the RP hubs in the fringe were considerably better than the ones we currently have let's face it the reason there are 500 towns is because everyone and their dog gets to be "duke of whogivesashit" and gets a massive swath of land for their 5-man afk grinding noble house, and nobody checks on them or even pays attention so long as they show up every saturday for the big warclaim the courland screamer rallying machine is the root of all evil on lotc and you know it 0 when every mineman and their cyber wife are given a barony or county for virtually doing nothing it creates a problem. oh you uh, showed up to the warclaim 5 minutes earlier? well do i have a swathe of land for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osumanduas 1442 Share Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, ForeverGinger said: I have to agree, freebuild certainly seems like it could work, as long as there is some effort put into consolidation. As Silent said above, it seems like the best route to take on a freebuild map would be to ramp up the dangers of going out alone. Mob spawning and events designed to threaten opportunistic pioneers would need to have impact, and occur often enough to showcase the benefits of city living. 0 Freebuild is a terrible idea and should never be considered for lotc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2232 Share Posted July 3, 2017 52 minutes ago, Jacko said: Freebuild is a terrible idea and should never be considered for lotc 0 Freebuild is by far the best option for LotC's upcoming map, as it has been for prior ones, as explained in previous posts in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbs_Burrows 497 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Jacko said: Freebuild is a terrible idea and should never be considered for lotc LOTC is still living thanks to the brilliance of a freebuild map which you never got to play on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colovian fur 8360 Share Posted July 3, 2017 i rlly enjoy all these people that like their cities to be perfect and if ONE block is out of place, or if ANYTHING changes they flip ****, and everything stays stagnate for months. literal dollhouse simulator we freebuild now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurferDurfer1 2978 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, joey calabreeni said: i rlly enjoy all these people that like their cities to be perfect and if ONE block is out of place, or if ANYTHING changes they flip ****, and everything stays stagnate for months. literal dollhouse simulator we freebuild now. 0 i want this man silenced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypoacher 8055 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Freebuild would be a great thing for increasing player retention. It means that rather than having to find a skype group on their first day, new players can go out and explore, find resources, build a home, learn how the plugins work. Currently, if you're a new player and you're lucky, you get a shitty little house and someone to lead you to the nearest mine/farm/lumberyard. It's extremely confusing and not particularly fun. The no-building, resources via resource island, fast-travels to a million different cities model just doesn't work for new or returning players. I remember my first day being unbanned from the server as a really disorienting and frustrating experience. 99.99% of the world was region-protected and most of the cities I read about on the wiki/forums were entirely empty. Nobody seemed interested in roleplaying with me, so if I spent time thinking out my character, writing a backstory and "ambitions," it wouldn't have mattered. If I didn't happen upon the Westerlands, I probably would have quit. I can only imagine what someone in my place would have felt if they had no connections on the server and had only a vague idea of the lore and setting. I can only imagine how infuriating it is to be forced to read a bunch of ****, write a fully fleshed-out character with a lore-appropriate backstory and ambitions, to have your only roleplaying experience once you're whitelisted be "okay here's a house and some iron armor remember to show up for this pvp fight on saturday." I wouldn't log on after a week, either. When I joined LoTC, I had never roleplayed, but we were still on the 2.5 "Elysium" temp map, which was freebuild with no professions and roleplay-default combat. My experience there was a lot more engaging. I spent my first day building a lean-to and mining some iron, because I wanted to get equipment and go hunt dragons. There were no OOC barriers preventing me from mining, but I was told I had to put up supports or my mineshaft would cave in and kill me. I didn't have to mine a thousand stone blocks to break an iron ore, but I was encouraged to roleplay mining. That's how my first character came about, a scruffy miner aspiring to be a dragonslayer. I didn't have a single clue about the server lore, or the nuances of decent fantasy writing, but the server encouraged me to create a character, roleplay with other people, and eventually find a place in the world. If the only argument against freebuild is "it looks bad," and "people would be too free not to roleplay in my city," then there really isn't an argument against it at all. I think Joey says it nicely: 1 hour ago, joey calabreeni said: i rlly enjoy all these people that like their cities to be perfect and if ONE block is out of place, or if ANYTHING changes they flip ****, and everything stays stagnate for months. literal dollhouse simulator we freebuild now. 0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colovian fur 8360 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Hero_ said: I can't wait for sand penises when freebuild becomes a thing I'm putting a bunch in front of everyone I hate 0 easy fix is an active GM team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasicDoctor 91 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Looking forward to the new map, looks awesome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmat 7460 Share Posted July 4, 2017 If freebuild is to be a thing which I think it should be, some things need to happen. - GMs taking an active role in removing landscars and need to punish misuse of the system. They have never done this before. - Areas built in freebuild should be destructible in RP without consent if it is present within the 'zone' of a nation. - Keep backups of the map files over short scale periods of time so that if something goes horribly it can be reversed. Also, R E M O V E N E X U S P R O F E S S I O N S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osumanduas 1442 Share Posted July 4, 2017 6 hours ago, joey calabreeni said: i rlly enjoy all these people that like their cities to be perfect and if ONE block is out of place, or if ANYTHING changes they flip ****, and everything stays stagnate for months. literal dollhouse simulator we freebuild now. 2 I disagree master Calabreeno, I'd rather have regions so a nice map isn't covered in Raevir poo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colovian fur 8360 Share Posted July 4, 2017 56 minutes ago, Jacko said: I disagree master Calabreeno, I'd rather have regions so a nice map isn't covered in Raevir poo 0 i challenge you to bad rats multiplayer to settle this dispute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osumanduas 1442 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Will nations be allowed LC for their capitals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2232 Share Posted July 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Hero_ said: I have not heard of this active GM team you speak of 0 That's why you don't introduce freebuild in isolation but rather in connection with a number of other things, one being increased expectations from the GM team. 3 hours ago, iMattyz said: If freebuild is to be a thing which I think it should be, some things need to happen. - GMs taking an active role in removing landscars and need to punish misuse of the system. They have never done this before. - Areas built in freebuild should be destructible in RP without consent if it is present within the 'zone' of a nation. - Keep backups of the map files over short scale periods of time so that if something goes horribly it can be reversed. Also, R E M O V E N E X U S P R O F E S S I O N S 0 100%. There's a lot of things necessary for freebuild to work and it's our failure to do these, coupled with a failure to freebuild the whole map previously, that has seen previous attempts fail. If we introduce all of the mechanics, systems and rules correctly, freebuild works as both a roleplay-enhancer and roleplay-centraliser. The 6.0 team need to listen to this before it's another flop, some engagement on this thread would perhaps be a start. 1 hour ago, Jaeden said: I'd be up for moderating a freebuild. 2 You are a Saint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devvy 1348 Share Posted July 4, 2017 looks like a baby dragon holding something when you flip it upside down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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