The Orc Military

[Eltyer 2]

-You see a notice on the notice board when you walk inside Sanjezal-

Brudders.

Me, Gezmar decided ta dink ´bout lat orcs military.

And me nub know enough ta find gud ways, me want ta ´ear whud lat ´ave ta say.

Me want ta know more about dese dings.

Me know it be wear a Yazgurtan be dinkin' bout dis, but me jusht wonderin'.

-A Yazgurtan's symbol is posted-

((OOC))

I: Leadership/organization - Who should be in charge of what?

II: Efficientcy - What could make us better?

III: Trainings - What's fun, what's usefull?

IV: Ranking up - How would you want to rank up?

V: Other - Cake at the trainings?

This is an oppertunity to give your opinion properly, or thoughts of what you would expect from our military.

Or about things that could improve in your eyes, or added ofcourse.

Post a reply with ''II'' if you're going to talk about Efficientcy,

and for example ''IV'' when regarding Ranking up. Etc.

Also, please reply OOCly.

[Ned Lud 1260]

I: Leadership/organization - Who should be in charge of what?

II: Efficientcy - What could make us better?

III: Trainings - What's fun, what's usefull?

IV: Ranking up - How would you want to rank up?

V: Other - Cake at the trainings?

I: I think we need to divide up the power a little more, at least when it comes to training, doing stuff, taking care of the grunts, etc. Not so much so as to spread ourselves thin and hold no one accountable, but we could use some more wiggle room to focus smaller and allow players that want to lead certain things to take on tasks and prove themselves. I'll be the first to admit that I'm pretty lazy and carefree when it comes to all this administrative and coordination ****, hell, my mic doesn't even work. I would love for someone that's better at the job of Targoth to be able to challenge me to a duel and take it and run it ten times better. I think we need more people thinking along these lines. I see so many races and groups that suffer because they have players at the top that are entrenched in their positions and there's really no system in place to usher in fresh blood and fresh ideas. We need to encourage this.

Krughai Thread and Roster:

When it comes to our roster on the Krughai thread, only Mogroka has access and he's usually busy, so we one or more players with access to the roster that can basically be put in charge of managing the recruitment, members list and ranks. We need a better system in place for this, because so many times I run across some grunt that's not on the list and joined through some other player and is lost in the system. This also becomes a problem when it comes to rank, as some players just wander around with low rank for months, simply because they're on different time zones and no one's keeping track of them.

II: Better organization of our roster and our recruitment efforts. Better systems of communication overall. If someone trespasses in Krugmar or there's a threat, the guy that logs on a few hours later needs to know. Maybe more up-to-date noticeboards (with all of us in a better habit of actually updating) where every major current event is listed, a KOS and BOLO list, a list of tasks and chores for bored players with nothing to do, things such as "Gather X stacks of logs, wool, etc. and give it to so-and-so." Not every player frequents the forum or lives on TS, so we need to make sure we're putting the information out there for everyone in our Nation and that they have a way to communicate back, whatever's best for them.

III: I'd like to hear more from the other players on this one. Personally, my favorite type of training is simply going out and doing stuff, whether it be raids or tolls, things that get players out and role-playing as a group.

IV: Currently our rank system seems to run based on how many battles someone's fought in. This is good, but we need some alternatives for those who are less active or not on during peak hours. Obviously leaders need to be able to be on during some wars and events, but for some of the lower ranks, below Nob, maybe we find some different ways to rank up. As I said before, we also need to keep better track of our ranks and our rosters. Every now and then I check the Krughai thread to see that there are runts that have applied days ago and I have no idea whether they're taken care of or not.

V: Better infrastructure and economy. With the new map, we'll have a better chance to do this. We need to get back to our communal roots and focus on boosting our resources, stockpiles and minas. Maybe we have a lumberjacking camp for lumberjacks that focuses on gather wood and the mass production of charcoal, a hunting camp that focuses on gathering and cooking meat, a stone quarry that focuses on gathering stone, a farming district that focuses on farming. Players with these skills could have access to the region and the storage chests and could even be put in charge of the various camps on the condition that they provide the resources generated to the War Nation. It could be a good deal. "Hey, we'll allow you free room and board if you provide us with a steady supply of materials and labor." This would also encourage players to specialize and actually sort've role-play within their specialty.

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I think we should also focus on our collective wealth. This means we ought to be buying out everyone else's iron and diamonds and combat resources and hoarding them for military use. We might consider more tolls and fines, with the money going to the War Nation. We don't do taxes and most of us just run around killing things, but it would be nice if the War Nation had a solid minas fund and a stockpile to pass down from Rex to Rex.

Anyhow, just some thoughts. This transition to the new map is a great opportunity for us to get it together. As we rebuild we can to know other players better and keep better track of who's coming and going. We could use a fresh start and some fresh ideas.

[Austin 697]

Why not having something that would achually give people something to do, like quests or something of the sort. Like when I joined we were all collecting sandstone and getting paid for it I mean on the new map I'd be willing to hire people for my inn to per say- go out and collect food/meat for me to cook. Or a blacksmith could buy from miners. etc becuase alot of the new orcs are leaving becuase we dont have much to do in krugmar so they go find RP elsewere

[Mucky 443]

I: Leadership/organization - I think that a Grunts should get the opertunity to train Runts+ up to Grunts. This would add a change and give the Grunts a bit more Responsiblity.

II: Efficientcy - Telling Orcs not to fight over silling things when training {{ :L because trust me it will happen }

III: Trainings - How about a Spawner to train on, and killing things is fun, it would also be useful.

IV: Ranking up - How would you want to rank up? After being seen that you are good at training or battle.

V: Other - Cake at the trainings? Ale at the end of a weeks training :D

[Ned Lud 1260]

Also, I forgot to add:

I: Meeting of the War Leaders or Military Council. Like the shaman have started their little pow-wow, I think the War Leaders and Militants ought to have a little meeting every now and then, even if it's just bullshitting on the forums. Nob or higher can attend to discuss matters relating to the Krughai and the War Nation.

I realize that most of these ideas are things that I as Targoth/Uzggoth can and should be implementing, or at least pushing for. I'm looking to improve the state of things as best I can, so just keep the ideas coming.

[Eltyer 2]

Remember, you may also give critisism on one point.

Posting on this treath will also improve your chances of ranking up,

since we can see what sort of insight you have in situations.

[Lexperiments 18]

I support cake at trainings.

[Eltyer 2]

Okay, cake at trainings ;)

[loakmendbe 62]

[Cake at training would make orcs happy. And not so Not listening to you.]

[Jarkarll 314]

If we're going to change stuff around I say we have a census for the.orcs. count our numbers, see ranked, activity and stuff like that. Then once that's done with, and we're on solid ground we can rebuild our army. For a while though I was the only person training runts. Pretty sure I trained Erik, and about 3 more up to grunt. The lack of proper training grounds hinderd it greatly.

[Austin 697]

I'm suggesting maybe we lower the rank numbrs so it is less confusing perhaps something like

Runt- Iniate to the Army, Hasnt really proved himself but still in the army

Grunt- Has proven himself and is just the standard Footsoldier is considered apart of the Krughaai

Warrior- A soldier proven his worth

Marauder- Highest ranking Krughaai before nob once this rank is reached you can be chosen to become a Nob

Nob- Can command runts and lead small warbands

Warboss

Targoth

[Eltyer 2]

I'm suggesting maybe we lower the rank numbrs so it is less confusing perhaps something like

Runt- Iniate to the Army, Hasnt really proved himself but still in the army

Grunt- Has proven himself and is just the standard Footsoldier is considered apart of the Krughaai

Warrior- A soldier proven his worth

Marauder- Highest ranking Krughaai before nob once this rank is reached you can be chosen to become a Nob

Nob- Can command runts and lead small warbands

Warboss

Targoth

Interesting, have you anything to say about things you want incluided in trainings or other topics listed above?

[Jarkarll 314]

Interesting, have you anything to say about things you want incluided in trainings or other topics listed above?

We need to not only take some ranks away but also make branches, such as archery, axes, and swordsmans should all have a seperate leader, like Archer Nob. And then warboss and up commands the army as one. Training grounds are a must.

[Lugmak 20]

We need to not only take some ranks away but also make branches, such as archery, axes, and swordsmans should all have a seperate leader, like Archer Nob. And then warboss and up commands the army as one. Training grounds are a must.

I think that is a very good idea

[Lugmak 20]

I: Leadership/organization - Who should be in charge of what?I think that the higher the rank you are, you can manage the orcs that are lower rank than you. Apart from the lower ranks (runt to killa) then you cannot manage them as in ordering them to do something you would just tell them what not to do and discipline them.

II: Efficientcy - What could make us better?More training and disciplining the orcs more.

III: Trainings - What's fun, what's usefull?Well, i agree with the idea of spawners, but we could have a weekly party were we go out and hunt for a few nights.

IV: Ranking up - How would you want to rank up?I think we could have a book with the words saying

"+1" in it written by a nob or higher, and if you have as many as you need you will gain a rank, here are the points i think you should get for ranking up.

Berzerker: 37

Savage: 35

Blitzer: 33

Brute: 31

Destroyer: 29

Obliterata: 27

Marauder: 25

Warrior: 23

Bully: 21

Goon: 19

Grot: 17

Grunt: 15

Killa: 13

Loota: 11

Ruffian: 9

Prick: 7

Punkz: 5

Your books with the points in are taken away when you are promoted

V: Other - Cake at the trainings? I agree with the ale after a week of training, but we could also do a award ceremony for all the orc in the army, and award promotion points to the orcs that have been good.