The Deephammer Clan

[DeepHammer 1]

Clan Deephammer

                                                                             

                Piles of rubble and dust fill the cave branch. Ulfrik of the Deephammer is blind in the pitch darkness. The young patriarch is stuck beneath a fallen stalactite. Ulfrik breathes deeply, filling his lungs with the cold, musty cave air. Ulfrik is accustomed to the dark and to the caves. This is not even his first cave in. But this cave in, the dwarf knows, is much different. It was not just his branch, nor was it due to faulty supports. Something much more malicious was afoot.

Ulfrik groped around in the heaps of crumbled stone for the Deephammer, a weapon and tool that had served him from his early years. 

 

[Kilgrim 361]

Article II: Clan Rights

Section B: Forging a clan

 

The bloodlines of the dwarves have been defined. There is of no clan that we not already know of. For a clan to come out of nowhere would be absurd. The only logical explanation would be for a clan to split. Let this be the definition for the future clans. 

[DeepHammer 1]

I am not even remotely close to being finished with this. I didn't mean to post it yet. I do not think it is absurd for a new clan to emerge with all this moving about from land to land. Perhaps my people were already in (the 3.0 map). If you force me to write my origin as a split, but that will be difficult and will probably contradict said clan's lore.

[DeepHammer 1]

I had a plan to write it as myself being the only member of the clan. All clan additions will be through adoption or in character finding of long lost relatives. Mainly adoptions.... This way, I being the only surviving member, would have less clash describing my, and my clan's, origins. You dig?

[MrSyth 636]

I suggest you attempt to join one of the existing clans, or walk around for a while clanless. It'll serve you much more RP, and maybe you'll end up a high rank in one of those in a while! The verdict of "No new clans" was put due to many people wanting to be a clanleader, for fame and glory. But that way, there would be no simple clanmembers! Try to join a clan, and believe me, you'll have more fun in the end.


PS: They couldn't have already lived in 3.0, that'd mean they're a tribal race, which they're not obviously.
 

[Thrym 188]

I suggest you attempt to join one of the existing clans, or walk around for a while clanless. It'll serve you much more RP, and maybe you'll end up a high rank in one of those in a while! The verdict of "No new clans" was put due to many people wanting to be a clanleader, for fame and glory. But that way, there would be no simple clanmembers! Try to join a clan, and believe me, you'll have more fun in the end.

PS: They couldn't have already lived in 3.0, that'd mean they're a tribal race, which they're not obviously.

 

((Personally, I find simple clan members are actually more fun :wink: ))

[DeepHammer 1]

I'm making the bloody clan. Got it? I'm not asking you to join the damn thing. And I am not saying that I am not going to join another one first. That would then allow me to make a legitimate "split".

[Bofauk 19]

-snip-

[TEEbrown 348]

No offence but you can't

 

No offince but you can't.

 

No offence, but he can. What right have you to decide what RP other people should make? It is his choice to create this clan, and as a community we should be encouraging growth in people's RP rather than focusing on the technicalities.

[Serf 647]

He can make a clan, however it will not be under the nation of Urguan, and probably be secluded like the Doomforged. There is nothing stopping you, but people will look down upon your clan, and you will have little to no respect in the Urguan Nation.

 

And no offence, but making a new clan spreads the role play out among the Dwarves, and can make some things difficult, but I wish you luck on forging your Clan, and hope you can get the clansmen you need to help the clan flourish, and if worse comes to worse you can probably merge with the Stormhammers. That was the main purpose of that clan.

[zortjr 32]

@Bofauk Irongut- There is no reason that he can't make a clan. Don't make nonconstructive posts. +1 to Bazian, Completely agree. 

 

@DeepHammer- There are three main points that I hope you take to heart.

• There is no need to come across as hostile.  Most comments here are to help you, not simply criticize.  It is true that some of the wording above could have been better written, but in whole the rp community will help with constructive comments.  (A good hint to the few comments that aren't constructive would be those that are a sentence or less in length.)
• The main reason it was suggested that you join a clan first is to learn the way dwarven rp works on this server.  Even if you are an veteran rp'r the lore and politics will take some time to get used to, this was just some advice to help you further understand our way of doing things.  It was also not said to give up on your idea of a clan just broaden your horizons.  (Also, from personal experience  it is much more fun to not have a leadership role. It is a lot of work.)
• In the 3.0 map (Anthos) the lore has already been set that there will be no native inhabitants of dwarfs in the land.  So from this all dwarfs will have came from Asulon.  Dwarven linage has become a large part of our rp, each clan has very accurate family records dating back to Aegis (the beginning of this server).  It has been a consensus that all dwarven families that exist within the empire are known and to make a clan within the dwarven lands you would need a proper linage.  You can be a clan that lives outside the nation, but there are certain contingencies that you would have to adhere too.  First you would need to explain how and why your clan came to live outside of the empire, second how your clan got from Asulon to Anthos (due to nations having private ships, your clan would need to hitch a ride on another nation's ship), and lastly how and why your clan will come back to the empire.

If you feel that you are truly dedicated to creating this clan then go for it.  There is no reason that you would not be able to make this clan, just know that it is a lot of work to make and maintain.  If you want further help ask the community or use pm's to those that are willing to help. (I would not be opposed to you pming me for questions.) Good luck.

 

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Some examples of how you could explain where your clan came from: (You can mix and match these examples, they were just some ruff ideas.) 

• DeepHammer clan broke off from another clan during the Orc wars. Lived in Alras after the battles there and never left, even after the dwarfs gave it up. Came over to Anthos by bartering passage with humans. Went to the dwarven nation once more but kept there new name as a new identity of their trials.
• A single dwarf (specify who) that ventured out of the nation, as a merchant or just traveling, settled in a foreign city and started a family. When coming from Asulon you can be inducted into the nation for passage. When you get to Anthos the policy for the nation you were apart of could change and be forced to leave.

When you use another person's name or clan to branch off from make sure that you have their consent.  Also make sure that your clan has some sort of connection with the clan that you branch out from, such as similar values or possibly exact opposite values do to a family problem.  It is up to you, but you want it to flow and have a connection to the past. Look at other clan pages to see how a extensive the page is. The Edgehand clan and the Forkbeard clan both have ties to the Grandaxe clan and it shows in their lore. If you have any other questions just ask.

)

[MrSyth 636]

The posts saying he can't make a new clan weren't non-constructive. He simply and truely can't. It's in the articles of Urguan:

 

Article II: Clan Rights

Section B: Forging a clan

 

The bloodlines of the dwarves have been defined. There is of no clan
that we not already know of. For a clan to come out of nowhere would be
absurd. The only logical explanation would be for a clan to split. Let
this be the definition for the future clans.

[Serf 647]

The posts saying he can't make a new clan weren't non-constructive. He simply and truely can't. It's in the articles of Urguan:

 

He can make a clan. It just won't be under the Urguan Nation, or if it is many Dwarves SHOULD be weary of the clan for awhile until they gain trust, and honor.

[TEEbrown 348]

The posts saying he can't make a new clan weren't non-constructive. He simply and truely can't. It's in the articles of Urguan:

 

I know, I wrote it. There are ways he can go around it by saying his clan branched off of another. Let me make this very clear so everyone can take note. The law doesn't ban new clans from forming. Rather, it makes it so that the clan has to get its roots from another clan so that more "sons of urguan" don't keep popping up. So PLEASE, stop bashing the new clans that are being made. Encourage them, give them pointers. We are a community remember this.

 

Btw, in the text at the end it says for "future clans." It says it right there that there will be more clans in the future.

[Zezimus 1523]

((As Bazian has already pointed out, the Articles specifically state any new clans must be branched from one of the first or what we traditionally call noble clans. This does not however put a blanket ban on creating new clans, they just need the relevant RP behind them as Skath did a good job of explaining. While we'd prefer if newcomers to the dwarves join one of the current commoner clans, we won't stop you from creating you own, providing it aheres to the lore we have in place.

 

Deephammer, if you wish to create a new thread without the bickering, you can do so and I'll make sure this one is locked and moved. Make sure you read up on dwarven lore so that your clan's story is consistent with our history. As Thoak said, any new clans will essentially be treated as the lowest of the low to begin with and you'd therefore have to earn honour. Expect to be treated as a commoner in role play. : P))