3.0 Progress Update - Oo'la'la

[Damperstorm 3]

First, if you are Guide, why are you a Total Tophat instead? Second, the annology is meh to me, but yes, many have said this. Guess what: Nobody listens to us. You want? You get it. If you want it "right now" rather than "when it's done", then go find some place else for that's not what the staff want to do. They want to do it right then give it. That is why they are staff; the founders wanted this done right. This is why nobody really cares about their claim as the best (which is opinion, so they can't really say that); it's really good and we deal with their over-the-top boasting where it is, which isn't around much, if we are honest.

[tomahawk90 5]

First off, I am exited for the new world, if only because it will probably be a beauty to look at. One can't rush beauty.

I sense much confusion in the difference between "secrets" and "surprises". The staff and builders are keeping most information closed as it creates more of a surprise, as well as gives them some more breathing room. -snip-

To just respond to one person of a few who are basically saying the same thing.. I think no one would like to be "surprised" by how crafting is restricted, how money is regulated, and other game mechanics as an example. What does not help is that there have been numerous promises that we are going to be told more of this, on regular basis, often, soon, daily etc etc. Just check out the Anthos mini-site, I think the most recent information added there is around 3 weeks old, and thats probably half of the total of information to be found, while the home page really states information will be added almost daily. The idea was good, but if its not carried out correctly, it will backfire, which is happening now.

 

Secrets implies that the staff is willingly witholding info, which is probably true for some of it and for good reason, but I think a large portion of info and teasers that could be supplied to us, the playerbase, is not reaching us not because the staff does not want to give it, but because the staff is busy. That may very well partly come from those around here whining that its taking so long, which concludes a nice circle.

 

I see, in another topic, the media-team asking what they can do because they feel they are not doing enough, I see a playerbase that is annoyed because it is not getting as much information as was promised, I see a forgotten dedicated website for this new world, and I see an overworked staff. See where I am going with this?

[Damperstorm 3]

First off, I am exited for the new world, if only because it will probably be a beauty to look at. One can't rush beauty.

To just respond to one person of a few who are basically saying the same thing.. I think no one would like to be "surprised" by how crafting is restricted, how money is regulated, and other game mechanics as an example. What does not help is that there have been numerous promises that we are going to be told more of this, on regular basis, often, soon, daily etc etc. Just check out the Anthos mini-site, I think the most recent information added there is around 3 weeks old, and thats probably half of the total of information to be found, while the home page really states information will be added almost daily. The idea was good, but if its not carried out correctly, it will backfire, which is happening now.

 

Secrets implies that the staff is willingly witholding info, which is probably true for some of it and for good reason, but I think a large portion of info and teasers that could be supplied to us, the playerbase, is not reaching us not because the staff does not want to give it, but because the staff is busy. That may very well partly come from those around here whining that its taking so long, which concludes a nice circle.

 

I see, in another topic, the media-team asking what they can do because they feel they are not doing enough, I see a playerbase that is annoyed because it is not getting as much information as was promised, I see a forgotten dedicated website for this new world, and I see an overworked staff. See where I am going with this?

Never seen such promises, just ones that it will be coming soon. Then they had more work to do due to the spamming of Minecraft updates that would break plugins and even the map, and now we have 1.3 around the corner so I bet 3.0 will come then, the plugins being modded with the snapshots themselves to best prepare for the coming of an update that would ruin the map if we did it now. Both Mojang and LotC has promised their updates to come soon. Yet they have details yet to iron out. It has been months for 1.3 and half a year for 3.0, if what people have been stating is true. Just calm down and be patient; no point in getting worked up over uncontrollable things.

[Lord_Sauron_ 43]

Guys... Seriously.  I have not been waiting as long for the new update, but this is just like any other new thing.  There are waits, and people are annoyed about the wait.  They want it immediately.
The only difference here is that the creators of 3.0 are people, and listen to you guys.  They listen to you, and you can see them listening - and responding.
So, naturally, you tell them that you are tired of waiting.
 

Then, as they should, they ignore you and say, "It'll be ready soon, not giving an exact date, quit whining - it is gonna be awesome."

Which naturally makes everyone flip out and leave, never playing 3.0 in revenge for the wait.

Yeah.  That won't happen.  We are all excited, but pestering those who are working their hardest for us is inappropriate and unbecoming.  We will gnash our teeth, anxious and impatient.  When it comes out, we will play it and be amazed and admit to ourselves that it was worth the wait.  
Until then, leave the staff alone - I've been in such a position as they before, and let me tell you...  It is hard, stressful, and having players retract their support because 'we are taking too long' does nothing to bolster our morale. The staff owes no one their time - LOTC is free! There is no monetary interest in 3.0, and even the donators come with the strict legality of 'donations'.  

TL;DR - It may suck to wait, but if you are unhappy with the wait - shut up and deal with it until it comes out. It'll be worth it when it does.

[Damperstorm 3]

Vanir_Laefien here speaks wisely. Wait, TL;DR? What does the T stand for? And the L? And the D? And the R? Oh, and that semicolon ( ; )?

[Lord_Sauron_ 43]

Vanir_Laefien here speaks wisely. Wait, TL;DR? What does the T stand for? And the L? And the D? And the R? Oh, and that semicolon ( ; )?

Too long; didn't read.  I guess most people here would read it, actually (considering we are RPers :P)

It is either used to say that something is too long, I didn't read it, or used to summarize something into a few sentences or less.  I see it on Imgur a lot, with the story galleries.  Like, top comment on a valentine's day love story might be: "TL;DR - They fell in love and got married."

[Kardel 1054]

yay

[Damperstorm 3]

Too long; didn't read.  I guess most people here would read it, actually (considering we are RPers :P)

It is either used to say that something is too long, I didn't read it, or used to summarize something into a few sentences or less.  I see it on Imgur a lot, with the story galleries.  Like, top comment on a valentine's day love story might be: "TL;DR - They fell in love and got married."

 

TL;DR - Too Long; Didn't Read. ;P

[tomahawk90 5]

from my quoted op: numerous promises that we are going to be told more of this, on regular basis, often, soon, daily

Never seen such promises, just ones that it will be coming soon. Then they had more work to do due to the spamming of Minecraft updates that would break plugins and even the map, and now we have 1.3 around the corner so I bet 3.0 will come then, the plugins being modded with the snapshots themselves to best prepare for the coming of an update that would ruin the map if we did it now. Both Mojang and LotC has promised their updates to come soon. Yet they have details yet to iron out. It has been months for 1.3 and half a year for 3.0, if what people have been stating is true. Just calm down and be patient; no point in getting worked up over uncontrollable things.

As you quoted my post and responded to it, I should think you have read my whole post. Please read a little more careful next time, you have completely misunderstood me, Im on your side, as I think is very clear from my post.

 

The promises are exactly where I said they are, but to help you out even further, here is a direct quote from the anthos mini-website, which is also a link to the site. How convenient ;) Note that it includes "regular", "often", and it suggests that information will be added nearly daily. Also note that you are telling me you haven't seen any promises including the words I mentioned, to continue stating that you have indeed seen such promises.

"The site will be updated at regular instances, meaning that it will have content added often. If it appears barren – then check back the next day!"

 

I also state that I think the staff are no evil geniuses who are willingly hiding an unnecesary amount of info from us, but that they are too busy working on the map, and that the continuing pressure from this forum is probably not helping them. I am basically agreeing with you, so no reasons to get worked up. My only point of critisism is that if the staff decides to come out and say 3.0 is coming soon, releases a mini-website with statements like the one above, they will have to feed info to the playerbase to make sure anticipation does not peak and falter again before 3.0 can be released, which is what I believe is happening now. I believe the staff are doing all they can and I am pretty sure when they release it, I will still think its too soon as I'd rather see everything implemented and stable (fi shop plugin too) before release.

 

In the spirit of the conversation:
TL;DR: Im very calm, very patient and hope the staff takes all the time they need, and please read carefully before replying.

[Damperstorm 3]

from my quoted op: numerous promises that we are going to be told more of this, on regular basis, often, soon, daily

As you quoted my post and responded to it, I should think you have read my whole post. Please read a little more careful next time, you have completely misunderstood me, Im on your side, as I think is very clear from my post.

 

The promises are exactly where I said they are, but to help you out even further, here is a direct quote from the anthos mini-website, which is also a link to the site. How convenient ;) Note that it includes "regular", "often", and it suggests that information will be added nearly daily. Also note that you are telling me you haven't seen any promises including the words I mentioned, to continue stating that you have indeed seen such promises.

"The site will be updated at regular instances, meaning that it will have content added often. If it appears barren – then check back the next day!"

 

I also state that I think the staff are no evil geniuses who are willingly hiding an unnecesary amount of info from us, but that they are too busy working on the map, and that the continuing pressure from this forum is probably not helping them. I am basically agreeing with you, so no reasons to get worked up. My only point of critisism is that if the staff decides to come out and say 3.0 is coming soon, releases a mini-website with statements like the one above, they will have to feed info to the playerbase to make sure anticipation does not peak and falter again before 3.0 can be released, which is what I believe is happening now. I believe the staff are doing all they can and I am pretty sure when they release it, I will still think its too soon as I'd rather see everything implemented and stable (fi shop plugin too) before release.

 

In the spirit of the conversation:

TL;DR: Im very calm, very patient and hope the staff takes all the time they need, and please read carefully before replying.

 

I did read it all and never was going on about how you were against them, only about the updating. On the site you linked, it says often. Not constantly, consistently, or anything. Just often. Often may be monthly for some and hourly for others.

[Aedan The Bard 350]

cupakes

[Major Dom 1297]

cupakes

 

I dare say...

[Lord_Sauron_ 43]

Alright y'all, the release date has been...released. So, could we have a ban on all whining for the time being? Maybe? Perhaps? Good.

[Damperstorm 3]

WHINE