Tom_Whiteman 949 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Finally... Question; could they still spam the doors, i.e open and close it then the LoTC members that are playing can hear them spamming your door... Because that was really annoying in Aegis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Llama 4 Share Posted April 11, 2013 This is great! Thanks Telanir! Keep up the great work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbajack 119 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Nice work Telanir. It's great to see this returning, when I was considering joining the server way back, the WS's were implemented, and because of that I was strongly convinced to join. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_king3 0 Share Posted April 11, 2013 To gauge how helpful a player is, you could keep an eye on the Help channel, as a suggestion. The negatives unfortunately outweigh the positives of giving everyone access to the WS chat. I still strongly disagree with this. As I said before, from my experience (and I spent quite a bit of time in WS), it was not common for people to use it for personal conversation. Whenever it happened, other players in the chat or sometimes AT would hush them up. However, I'd say about 80% of the time, non-staff members would be helping the souls, and a lot of the time when I did /who ws (back when that command worked), there would not actually be any staff online who were in the chat, or if so only one. Not all the time, but not infrequently by any stretch. Point is, having more players than just staff would definitely be better in this situation. Especially if the AT and other staff had the option to mute players, then someone in the chat could threaten them with mutes if they are staff, or simply message a staff member to join the chat if not. I can tell you that a lot of Wandering Souls will have a more enjoyable experience this way, and it will definitely lead to more applications and more timely help. Also, I'd like to remind you that the Wandering Soul chat isn't just for answering questions of the Wandering Souls, but also to keep them entertained while they enjoy the server. It was perfectly acceptable before to chat idly so long as it was with Wandering Souls who initiated such chat. It's not simply an applicant-helping channel, although that is the primary use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin 18 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Nice, I loved these invisible guys. Maybe you should give them ability to make some random voices related to their login time, like if they login for a few minutes, they might make some zombie or some other weird creepy sounds. But if wandering soul has been there for an hour or more, they could make ghast sounds or some stuff to add a bit more mystic feeling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy 1599 Share Posted April 11, 2013 While I'm glad to see the plugin back, I'm in strong agreement with both Everblue and ski_king.Application Team need a mute command for WS. It worked wonders back with the old plugin. A GM isn't always available, and even one is, it can take precious minutes to get the player banned, all the while the spammer is chasing off other Wandering Souls and making our server look bad.And lastly, while I understand the reasoning for disallowing normal members access, I think they should be allowed in the channel. Especially when coupled with App Team having mute powers, there shouldn't be any trouble with people abusing the chat as another OOC. As has been pointed out, there's quite often only players on to answer the questions of Wandering Souls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbanana5757 154 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Wonderful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargene 51 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Nice, I loved these invisible guys. Maybe you should give them ability to make some random voices related to their login time, like if they login for a few minutes, they might make some zombie or some other weird creepy sounds. But if wandering soul has been there for an hour or more, they could make ghast sounds or some stuff to add a bit more mystic feeling haha that would be awesome, just minding your own business then hearing a ghast noise :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldeTymer 323 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Oh dear, I will always feel as if I'm being watched... Haha, great new plugin! +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6975 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 I still strongly disagree with this. As I said before, from my experience (and I spent quite a bit of time in WS), it was not common for people to use it for personal conversation. Whenever it happened, other players in the chat or sometimes AT would hush them up. However, I'd say about 80% of the time, non-staff members would be helping the souls, and a lot of the time when I did /who ws (back when that command worked), there would not actually be any staff online who were in the chat, or if so only one. Not all the time, but not infrequently by any stretch. Point is, having more players than just staff would definitely be better in this situation. Especially if the AT and other staff had the option to mute players, then someone in the chat could threaten them with mutes if they are staff, or simply message a staff member to join the chat if not. I can tell you that a lot of Wandering Souls will have a more enjoyable experience this way, and it will definitely lead to more applications and more timely help. Also, I'd like to remind you that the Wandering Soul chat isn't just for answering questions of the Wandering Souls, but also to keep them entertained while they enjoy the server. It was perfectly acceptable before to chat idly so long as it was with Wandering Souls who initiated such chat. It's not simply an applicant-helping channel, although that is the primary use. While I'm glad to see the plugin back, I'm in strong agreement with both Everblue and ski_king. Application Team need a mute command for WS. It worked wonders back with the old plugin. A GM isn't always available, and even one is, it can take precious minutes to get the player banned, all the while the spammer is chasing off other Wandering Souls and making our server look bad. And lastly, while I understand the reasoning for disallowing normal members access, I think they should be allowed in the channel. Especially when coupled with App Team having mute powers, there shouldn't be any trouble with people abusing the chat as another OOC. As has been pointed out, there's quite often only players on to answer the questions of Wandering Souls. In response to both of you, I have added quite a few commands in the most recent update to the WS plugin. Among them, is the command for the App Team and GM's etc. to restrict a certain Wandering Soul from joining until server restart or they are accepted. However, at the moment administration has decided on not allowing regular players to speak in WS chat. This is still in contemplation, but for now it will stay that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_king3 0 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Well, I'm glad to hear it's in discussion. I just brought this idea up in AT chat and for all the AT members which answered, it was a unanimous 7 people who believe that all should be allowed in, we just need a method to mute them, which I believe AT members had in the past. I also asked a member of the VAT, and he agreed with me. Just mentioning this so it can be taken into consideration that even though not a lot of people are commenting here, from what I've seen, a lot if not most people would agree with this, including a large portion of the team most closely responsible for the WS chat. I realize this may come off as a bit pushy, and I'm certainly not trying to push for an argument as to whether or not it is better. Just thought that this information was relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6975 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Well, I'm glad to hear it's in discussion. I just brought this idea up in AT chat and for all the AT members which answered, it was a unanimous 7 people who believe that all should be allowed in, we just need a method to mute them, which I believe AT members had in the past. I also asked a member of the VAT, and he agreed with me. Just mentioning this so it can be taken into consideration that even though not a lot of people are commenting here, from what I've seen, a lot if not most people would agree with this, including a large portion of the team most closely responsible for the WS chat. I realize this may come off as a bit pushy, and I'm certainly not trying to push for an argument as to whether or not it is better. Just thought that this information was relevant. If there is an AT chat I could be added to I will discuss this with you guys. My Skype can be found on my profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_king3 0 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Sent a request for whenever you return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin 18 Share Posted April 16, 2013 haha that would be awesome, just minding your own business then hearing a ghast noise :P Would be funny, wouldn't it ? :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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