Silevon 497 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (( Orcish Honnor is part of the whole Iblees thing, I can't find it at this moment, however Honnor is a part of lore.)) (( Bloodlust is the Orcish curse. )) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingpow321 285 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (( Bloodlust is the Orcish curse. )) And honour and bravery are the gifts that were given to them by the Creator after he banished Iblees to the Nether. This aside, the reason the warclaim was denied is because it is impossible to capture an entire nation, let alone multiple regions, in a single day. Not to mention the fact that I've been informed that Pok will be using one day alts to bolster his numbers during the battle. My earlier response to this thread was 100% backed by Mogroka, in fact he recommended that I deny it. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPT 771 Share Posted May 16, 2013 And honour and bravery are the gifts that were given to them by the Creator after he banished Iblees to the Nether. This aside, the reason the warclaim was denied is because it is impossible to capture an entire nation, let alone multiple regions, in a single day. Not to mention the fact that I've been informed that Pok will be using one day alts to bolster his numbers during the battle. My earlier response to this thread was 100% backed by Mogroka, in fact he recommended that I deny it. (( A thousand plus ones on this.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 And honour and bravery are the gifts that were given to them by the Creator after he banished Iblees to the Nether. This aside, the reason the warclaim was denied is because it is impossible to capture an entire nation, let alone multiple regions, in a single day. Not to mention the fact that I've been informed that Pok will be using one day alts to bolster his numbers during the battle. My earlier response to this thread was 100% backed by Mogroka, in fact he recommended that I deny it. [[i will not be using one day alts, I'll be using normal people, but not Orcs. I don't know who is feeding you bullshit, but please let me know. Also, I've reached out to you in order to make this more reasonable, for example, it will begin with the gates and move inward toward San'Orka after a week long grace period, and so on and so on until I reach San'Orka, a total period of roughly 4-5 Weeks, does that sound better? For those of you complaining about the gifts and what not, to my knowledge they are not lore bound. My character has never had the highest sense of honor and it certainly varies from Orc to Orc [if it was such a gift, the majority of Undead would not have been Orcs, including their Overlord (sorry to drop some knowledge from a year and a half ago on you new people, mostly)]. Also, I'm trying to change and revamp an Orcish culture which, in my opinion, is dry, repetitive and BORING. I'll elaborate, but this isn't a bash the Orcs thread, so I'm not going to continue, otherwise that's exactly what this would become.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGWC 8 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (( I say just let them do it. It's going to be involving a tonne of RP seeing as though it's lasting roughly 5 hours. This also would be a great time for people with inactive Orcs to re-activate them, if you will, and RP with them. Just my opinion. )) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPT 771 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (( My problem is it is most likely going to be a large group of blackmonts who take over, ally with the blackmonts, and have super Orc solders to attack Silverblade Vassals, and the TO)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 (( My problem is it is most likely going to be a large group of blackmonts who take over, ally with the blackmonts, and have super Orc solders to attack Silverblade Vassals, and the TO)) [[Don't worry about that, I swear to you that this will not be true, as a matter of fact I will send you a PM with my exact intentions of what I wish to do should I become Rex and take the War Uzg.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingpow321 285 Share Posted May 16, 2013 [[Don't worry about that, I swear to you that this will not be true, as a matter of fact I will send you a PM with my exact intentions of what I wish to do should I become Rex and take the War Uzg.]] Why not simply make it public knowledge? As for trying to change and revamp the orcish culture, there will be a large change coming within the next few days. Most all of the current active orcs have agreed that this system will be good for the playerbase as a whole. Would it not be courteous of you to at least take the opinion of the player base you are trying to force these changes upon? And the person who told me of the one day alts requested that s/he remain anonymous. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan 3953 Share Posted May 16, 2013 From the little I read saying that you are revamping and fixing, and this well add players to the orcs and make it more fun. I do not believe that. at all. As it seems currently you are trying to destroy the concept of ''Honor'' and what does that leave Orcs? Savages, killers, raiders, bandits just like Pok and I can say that people left because of just that, of the idea of orcs only being Raiders, savages killers and bandits. So saying that its for the good is completely not true that is the current problem the current problem is these types of orcs and with what you want your only encouraging them. If I am mistaken then that is because you have given little to no information and have not consulted us. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldrim 1422 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Hmm.. I remain neutral on this one, although from personal expirience I can tell you that Honor just doesn't really fit in the entire picture of Orcs, I believe that is more a trait Humans should abide to and not Orcs, besides, in all my times as an Orc when I fought an "outsider" so to speak, they always pulled the. " DON'T YOU HAVE ANY HONOR, ORC?! " Extremely annoying and repetitive to say the least, but that's my take on it, if it was up to me I would have ravaged the lands of Anthos long ago, if I was in the position to do so as an Orc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
everblue2er101 906 Share Posted May 16, 2013 ((While I'm not entirely up to speed on the situation or exactly what's going on, I'd just like to point a few things out regarding Orcish honour, From the Orcs wiki page - "The Common term Orcs refers to the natural, strong and honorable descendants of Krug." And from the Ancient History - "The robed figure stood before the four brothers. “There is nothing in my power that may undo what that evil did. There is one thing I may do however, and that is to bless you.... Krug, may your people show valour and honour where none exist." According to the ancient history, honour has been integral to the Orcs for a long time.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 [[if everybody has such a problem with this, then it's not my place to force it upon anybody. I'll remove it.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craotor 617 Share Posted May 16, 2013 ((I dont like the concept but dont think you should remove and not do it.If your character thinks that Honor is worth nothing then roll with it.I dont believe it will "revamp" and "fix" all issues of the orks.People dont play as orks because there is no rp.Orks with no honor are basicly bandits who run around killing ****.I think you go with it because this rebelion will cause rp and thats what orks need)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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