hellfiazz 879 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((I'm not gonna lie, but the High elves are the one of the weakest targets I know of. Your only strong point is your walls, and they can be overcome with ease. Either way, Orcs don't go for weak targets, just because they're weak targets, they're above that. And RPly, my char believes they don't acknowledge the spirits, because when I told them that Vulnir is a necromancer, and that I had found that out using Ixli, the spirit of forbidden knowledge, truth and knowledge, they brushed me off by saying that Ixli doesn't exist, and was a fabrication of my own mind. And if you consider placing a curse on someone that makes them tell the truth for one question, which I was able to do through using the correct ingredients, and a long ritual that leaves me exceptionally vulnerable PG, then you may want to relook up the definition. I'm responding in this thread because currently I can't access skype! and also because I want everyone else to be able to see that my war claim is legitimate.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (Zevandir) 80 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Weak targets? Oh thats right, no PvP magic representation. Truth spirits, quaint. I don't dispute the performing of the 'truth spirit', more the validity of the spirit in its entirety. PMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 879 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((There is a Spirit for every aspect of the realm. Truth is one of them.)) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samler 1565 Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((I'm not gonna lie, but the High elves are the one of the weakest targets I know of. Your only strong point is your walls, and they can be overcome with ease. Either way, Orcs don't go for weak targets, just because they're weak targets, they're above that. And RPly, my char believes they don't acknowledge the spirits, because when I told them that Vulnir is a necromancer, and that I had found that out using Ixli, the spirit of forbidden knowledge, truth and knowledge, they brushed me off by saying that Ixli doesn't exist, and was a fabrication of my own mind. And if you consider placing a curse on someone that makes them tell the truth for one question, which I was able to do through using the correct ingredients, and a long ritual that leaves me exceptionally vulnerable PG, then you may want to relook up the definition. I'm responding in this thread because currently I can't access skype! and also because I want everyone else to be able to see that my war claim is legitimate.)) ((Since I am bad at forums and stuff, all of it is replied to. But the correct ingredients, I saw no MC items showed nor destroyed. Long ritual? I have litterally seen crossbows been loaded slower than that. 4 emotes is what people tend to use (atleast what I see). So Crossbow loading time is "Super long"? And the server definition on PG, you force an action on others. Just my 2 cent.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (Zevandir) 80 Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((John swoons at Seth. "I knew I wasn't alone!)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 879 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((I've been killed or stopped more times than I've succeeded with that ritual. The only reason things went so comparably fast with you was because Vulnir was unconscious, and I had the military leader of Malinor protecting me, and all I was doing was performing a harmless curse which was to see whether or not someone was a necromancer. No one had any reason to stop me, and any that did would have been stopped by Khel first, which is why I assumed that none would try, and I was correct in that assumption. If you had any issue with the speed of things, or were planning to stop me, then why didn't you bring something up in OOC, or try to stop me at the time? And if we're talking about forcing things on others, isn't illusion forcing people to see, think or feel things? Isn't soul puppetry forcing people to do things? Isn't mental magic doing the same thing I was, except I only ask one question, and only get one truth, whereas they can see all memories, and even manipulate them.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samler 1565 Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((Forcing people to see something with illusion is something different. Like me dancing around is also "forcing" you to see me, untill you look away. Mental magic is illusion and kinda the same there. Soul puppetry, if I am right, it is a curse which is basicly the doll and you get the same harm. Such is like magicaly version of stabbing someone with a needle. And about the last thingy of Mental magic, they do not choose which memories they see. They can somewhat manipulate them but really, ain't that much (if I am right, not a mentalist here). But no matter what situation, you should RP the magic/ritual to the fullest. "Someone is protecting me" is not really a reason to skip emotes. To think if a T5 mage did that? "I burned the city down with 3 emotes but someone was protecting me so it is fine." But really I am not going to discuss much about the spamming of truth spirit for the MAT is already working on the case of giving it limitations, making it randome and very vague so it can have the feeling which Witch Doctors should have. Llong rituals with unpredicable results. I even remember I looked up on the Q&A for shamans which I found something quite interesting. Witchdoctors utilize the spirits in a chaotic fashion. They operate by channeling the raw will of the spirits, with minimal shaping. Witchdoctors are unique in that they don't necessarily align with a single spirit type, rather with the general ritualistic fashion of channeling any given spirit in general. Through their rituals they can channel blessings, hexes, or even create magical potions by channeling the spirit's raw will. The only problem is, being that they are channeling the raw will, they have minimal control over the outcome of the spells. A blessing will always be a blessing, a hex always a hex, but in the case of most Witchdoctor's, that blessing could literally be anything. It could be powerful and improve the target's strength, or it could be something relatively useless, like a Hex that causes someone to sneeze periodically for a day or two. It all depends on which given spirit ended up chiming in, and what they decided was the best course of action for the particular subject. Since there are so many different spirits and each with their own opinion on the matter at hand, it is next to impossible to predict what the outcome will be. For those not wishing to read the big box of text. "If you curse someone, it could be anything, from weakening to sneezing, you don't know." So now I am going to end my little talking about Witch Doctors, as the MAT is already working on it.)) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 879 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 ((Quite frankly, this has devolved into a debate over something that is irrelevant to the war claim, which by the way, is a simple pillage. Whether or not using shamanism to get the true answer to one question is insignificant; the RP reasons for the war claim are completely independent of that matter. As such, if you aren't posting RPly, or aren't going to post a rebuttal to the war claim, having both the position within the high Elves to do so, and a reason for denial that is legitimate, then I'd ask that you don't post at all.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeris 3124 Share Posted October 26, 2013 This warclaim took an awful turn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickando 3967 Share Posted October 28, 2013 A man in a red scarf silently cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heff 2460 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Meanwhile in Lenfartin ' the halflings dance and sing, away from all the OOC bickering that comes with RP conflict. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky 189 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (( calling me a bloke, really? Stop crying real tears over a damn warclaim, and also the orcs see high elves as using their magic in a bad way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 879 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 ((Righty-o folks, I've come to a decision regarding the time. 10th November, 4PM EST. Will fix in the OP.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 879 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 ((Nope! But none have said anything to me about it so far. Unfortunately, the majority of the players on the server are American, and so I have to work to try and incorporate the majority)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aislin 4354 Share Posted October 30, 2013 ((I would like to see this pushed up to this weekend if possible, also maybe we can push it to the morning EST, so that the Aussies/Euros can join in too. As for all the bickering I just read, shut up and clickyclicky. Seriously.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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