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if it is honest, I've already given my thoughts on how utterly insane the reasoning is

if this is drawn out bait I will kms

My original point stands. As Java said, it's utterly insane to shelve an active CA on the pretence of 'I've spoken to Fjarrigua' (only, as far as I can tell, inactive/oldplayer folks who think the CA is unfixable whilst the new players believe the opposite and have worked with LT management to bring the vision about), and on the notion of 'ET could do it better', because that's true of just about every CA.

fair enough, hiding the previous comment

This is exactly the wrong time to be talking about shelving. Jokul have recently been accepted pending admin approval; Frost Catalysts are accepted pending approval, and the amendment pack Agyrn posted has been accepted. We've been working in tandem with LT management (Islamadon) who has been helping with useful amendments; indeed, that was his proposed course of action in the feedback from the recent rewrite. The Fjarrigua should not be shelved for doing as LT recommend. I would also note that though you claim you spoke to Diogen, after a brief word with them, you did not tell them the purpose of the brief question you asked, and as far as I know have not spoken to any active Fjarriagua players, instead speaking to old-style doomer players who think the CA is inherently unfixable. But this is not true. The Fjarrigua community is not inactive. Do not steal the CA out from under the active and slowly repairing community, especially when it's following Lore Team managament advice on how to fix their lore.

The now Lector Serwa read through the published letter. She tapped the pen against her smiling lips, pondered, and wrote a brief reply. To the good Father Callahan, It is as you say. The insight you have provided will sustain my spirit. I will make sure to repent for my frustration soon, but I wished, first, to offer you my thanks for your analysis of the vision; as ever, you remain the teacher. You have given me much to think about. We should speak further regarding this matter, especially the matter of the beacon. I am, as ever, to be found in Petra. Your friend, - Lector Serwa

The scent of burnt spruce fills the air. You open your eyes, and see yourself sitting in a wooden chair in a ramshackle hut, with a campfire burning before you. A window to your side reveals the hut to be placed on the top of a hill, overlooking a spruce forest; in the distance, a winding, vast stone staircase leads high into the clouds, partially obscured by fog. Your attention is pulled, forcefully (you know not what by) back to the fire. The flames crackle, grow black - and a creature briefly materialises… …before vanishing. The flames return to normal. Your heart briefly stops - sweat pulses your brow, and your body shakes. The door opens; a white-haired, golden-eyed elf enters, standing behind you. You see the knife rest against your throat, feel it as it cu- ———«»————————————«»————————————«»——— A familiar scent fills the air. You open your eyes, and see yourself sitting in the same wooden chair in the same ramshackle hut, with the same campfire burning before you. The familiar window to your side shows, once more, the hut to be placed on the top of a hill, overlooking a spruce forest; in the distance, the winding, vast stone staircase leads high into the clouds, partially obscured by fog. Nothing has changed. You blink confusedly, before once more, your attention is pulled, forcefully (still, you know not what by) back to the fire. The flames crackle, grow black - and again, creature briefly materialises… …before vanishing. The flames return to normal. You knew it was coming, but it did not matter; your heart briefly stops, sweat pulsing the brow of your shaking body. There is, it seems, no bravery to be found in this little hut. The door opens; a white-haired, golden-eyed elf enters, standing behind you. You see the knife rest against your throat, brace yourself even as you feel it as it cu- ———«»————————————«»————————————«»——— The cycle repeats. Each time the circumstance the same, but the creature unique; each time a monster you've never seen before, a creature utterly unique, realised only by your mind. The cut remains constant - the elf, silent and murderous, never leaves. Eventually, after what feels like an endless span of time, you wake - sweat glistening your brow, heart thumping for dreamt horror.

i love

bows should be two whereas crossbows should be three

REAL

thank you wowj

ASIOTH IS MURDER @JentosTHE LOGOS BECKON

of all the places to complain about immersion, CT is not the place HES ME @Jentos

stop dragging me back from temporary forum retirement, when did I say that the church was evil and homophobic and crucified gay ppl? (beyond father paul and rozania it doesnt happen anymore). ive already stated multiple times that i DO NOT think that the church is aggressively homophobic and that this is more of a PROACTIVE rule than a reactive one. you say im yapping but ur attacking me for things I havent even said, stop being a shitter and let me go back to ignoring this thread because its served the opposite of the intended consequence (instead of reasonable discussion ppl have started using it to attack church folks for being homophobic when they arent for some reason?)

srry im eeping rn (misandry as a theme is barely ever used these days by fwitches except for a select unusual few (afaik its just one person). its not so much about misandry anymore but instead the need for survival, it is a curse after all)

I am so tired 162 replies is not what I had in mind. I'm going to stop replying to this thread because my brain is so fucked rn with this convo, I hope it was a good discussion for some people at least and presented some new ideas. It did for me (I have also heard that some folks are using this thread as a justification for calling all canonists homophobic and to attack religious people. Please don't, that's obviously stupid and intolerant and actually harms the cause you purport. Let's be civil and nice please)

I have yet to read any kind of fantastical story that doesn't reference the difference between Kings and peasants; I have read a great many that don't bear reference to homophobia I have very strong memories of it, as narthok said it may have been him

I've already gone over this. LotC is a narrative medium, yes, but it's based in a fantastical setting. Removing class differences is foolish because it's an integral part of fantasy narratives; consider House Lannister, for example. No-one is arguing for this. Also, roleplaying a noble isn't going to offend anyone nor cause problems, unlike the topic in discussion. On the topic of racism roleplay, I do believe that human-on-human racism roleplay virtually doesn't happen and is handled quickly by moderation when it shows up (I spoke to an admin a few days ago who stated that individuals who discriminated against each other based on skin colour in humans tended to get handled within hours).

that surprises me since I joined hnor fairly early pre-rozania when I first showed up and I didn't see anything, do you know if it was popularised throughout hnor or if it was just one bad egg

I'm fairly certain that the SS skins haven't happened at the very least post-Arcas, and the crucifixions were happening in rozania thanks to savoyard crusaders which would have been late 2021 I think