3andD 1722 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Within the Fringe capital of Vekaro, a robbed and old Ostromir Sarkozic Carrion begins a speech to a gathered group of denizens. From atop his hay bale he begins. "TO the many devout MAN who follow the divine incite of the SUPREME PONTIFF believe our King of Crows is not legitimate. But I ask, in what right is it that the PONTIFF has rite over the divine bood of the King of Crows? The Crown of Carrion is passed through blood rite, not be Papal Election. SHOULD the Pontiff question blood rite, I would ask when a Pontiff had rite over king? When I forged the Edict of Imperial Oren we defined that only Pontiff could crown the Emperor of Oren. Nowhere did we give the Pontiff electoral powers over a king. WE beseech the Pontiff and all who follow his will to repent there treasonable actions before the King of Crows enacts justice." 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp 71 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Alexander nods his head in agreement before continuing on with his travels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo 385 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I thought this was solved already, this was a dumb argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swgrclan 2682 Share Posted April 8, 2014 An worn, old gentleman bearing graying, receding hair and a robe as aged as his being stands in what crowd that has gathered before the old Carrion noble. His wise gaze narrowed upon Ostromir, he speaks up in a wizened, faintly-hoarse tone of voice:"The folly of Man's faith has both brought the humane together, and now has split it oh-so-harshly. I do not deny the power and wisdom of the Church, but what is it to reign over the inner-machinations of a Kingdom whom follows it's beliefs? In the past, I had witnessed no crowning granted by any Pontiff which granted any domineering power over the kingdom. This petty conflict serves nothing but to shatter this nation which had been shattered uncountable times beforehand." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo 385 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Lucien II this back when he crowned Heinrik, both of them now residing in the seven skies, he thought it was dumb the Church made such a big fuss this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuHanXianShi14 0 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "A king not crowned under god's chosen is a fake and a false king. A king crowned under an imposter of god's chosen is even worse, a traitor and a heretic." 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarvam 33 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Siguine unfortunately misses the proclamation of his lordly father, however, he hears the Lucienist man muttering to himself and presents a point to debate with. "So then those supposed kings, dwarven, orcish, alrasian, elven, of the alliance whom your order consorts to overthrow my Uncle with are false kings, illegitimate in the eyes of your order, as well...so then why do you only lash out against King Franz while working with foreign fraudulent kings? I have only heard whispers, but to ally with similarly ill-crowned pagan kings to usurp a rightful, god-fearing king? He has rescinded his claims to the False Pontiff, begged forgiveness to the High Pontiff, and is still the blood successor to the Oreni throne. I sincerely worry that the zealotry of our clergy will lead them to proclaim war against our king by blood, and this war will bear no health end as the tempests of Alliance and Lucienist warmongering will bleed Oren as a butcher's cleaver upon a sow. This war is claimed to be of one which is to instill stability upon Oren; but how can stability be brought to the commonfolk through sword, blood, and fire? Disputing the succession of kings will only weaken Oren, and weakening the only sovereign which follows the faith will diminish the moral authority of Horen the First's Church. Being played on the strings of foreign kings to their tune will bear no fortune to us sons of Horen, friend." 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yopplwasupxxx 5946 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "To overthrow your uncle? Lad, we were going to let the Lord Carrion make penance with His Holiness, until we had seen Lord Harrison 'Moogle' Briarwood executing a poor brother. However, he was not an officer or even oathed. If you really want peace, then you better keep yer damn nobles in line, hypocrite." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kralek 519 Share Posted April 8, 2014 WE beseech the Pontiff and all who follow his will to repent there treasonable actions before the King of Crows enacts justice." ((*their)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watyll 1104 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "Anyone remember that one High Pontiff who removed King William for going against him, even though he had so called 'divine blood?' Anyone? No?" says Niccolo, raising an eyebrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai Flowers 8 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "Anyone remember that one High Pontiff who removed King William for going against him, even though he had so called 'divine blood?' Anyone? No?" says Niccolo, raising an eyebrow. KGB agents take Niccolo away for telling the truth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "Carrion line has right to rule Oren but Pontiff must be present to make it so under God Himself. False Pontiff doing it not only doesn't make him King in God's eyes, but it also makes King heretic for letting a false Pontiff do it. That is why this happened." says man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3andD 1722 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 "A king not crowned under god's chosen is a fake and a false king. A king crowned under an imposter of god's chosen is even worse, a traitor and a heretic." Ostromir nods, "Da, I am in agreement. But the Creator has already crowned a Carrion with the blood rite of ruling over men. When I was crowned King of Renatus, Salvus, and Ruska- the supreme Pontiff blessed my bloodline and kin with the rite to bear the crown of men. My father, when crowned Emperor of Oren was held as the single divine of man. Franz does not claim his right to rule unjustly. He holds every blood rite to Oren." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yopplwasupxxx 5946 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "By that logic, then William III would still carry divine rite to Oren. Same would go to the line of Harren because he was the son of Horen himself. The Creator works in ways we cannot comprehend, and as seen in the past being the son of an Exalted or saint does make you the divine chosen by the Creator through the High Pontiff's inerrance." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 8, 2014 "By that logic, then William III would still carry divine rite to Oren. Same would go to the line of Harren because he was the son of Horen himself. The Creator works in ways we cannot comprehend, and as seen in the past being the son of an Exalted or saint does make you the divine chosen by the Creator through the High Pontiff's inerrance." "Everyone is descended from a son of Horen so it hardly makes a man divine." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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