The Crow's "unity"

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

*A Pamphlet is produced with many copies being sent out to many cities, some secretly but most in the open*

 

"It has often been the argument of the current generation of the Carrion family that why they fight Maric Varodyr Maker bless him, is to instill unity into humanity and keep the Empire together. Now all in all even I must admit it doesn't sound like a truly malicious goal, however it would appear the Carrions merely front this statement, the Carrions don’t wish for Unity, they just wish to remain in power for as long as possible. Now the reason I would rebuke their whole Unity argument would be the fact they granted the Northerners Independence, an act of desperation to win their support but it also means they do not fight for humans to be Unite, they simply fight to try and keep the majority of them under their boot."

 

"It does not make feasible sense for the Carrions to shout about how we’re destroying human Unity, when they are granting other humans independence. We the rebels do not believe human unity is achieved through an Empire, ever since the departure of Horen V any Empire after his own has been on shaky ground. We believe that human unity is agreed through the cultures and peoples of humanity ruling themselves and being in coalition with one another to work for the betterment of the world itself. The Carrions are just desperate to keep power and are making promises that even if they could win, they wouldn't be able to keep."

 

"Maric on the other hand promises, peace, stability and equality. Unlike the Carrions he recognizes that any man has the right to due process for whatever crime they may be accused to commit. He also makes promises to others that he will keep. The Carrions like to say he broke oaths but Maric is a Knight and his oaths to Chivalry outweigh that of fealty, the Carrions would have him suppress an angry population through force which would directly break his vows to the code of chivalry. Is it better to follow a tyrant for an oath of fealty? Or better to follow a pious code that follows all the best values humanity has to offer."

[Samler 1565]

Seth the elf frowns deeply as he reads this poster and takes it home.

"Humanity can't be trusted, they all say the same but is all full of lies, the world rots with their help."

[HappyShackles 886]

A young scribe seems to notice something odd about this document, and makes note of it.

 

 The Carrions like to say he broke oaths but Maric is a Knight and his oaths to Chivalry outweigh that of fealty, the Carrions would have him suppress an angry population through force which would directly break his vows to the code of chivalry. Is it better to follow a tyrant for an oath of fealty? Or better to follow a pious code that follows all the best values humanity has to offer.

 

 

Knight’s Code of Chivalry

 

The Knights Code of Chivalry, as revised on the 7th of The Amber Cold, 1470,  by Noble Ser Maric II Varodyr, the Winged Knight and scribed by Ser Akal Ipos.

 

 

He shall serve his liege lord valorously and with conviction.

 

((Written by Tentoa, Raptor and Merrymoogle))

 

[Tentoa 3160]

Another young scribe rebukes this.

"Another piece of the code is to respect those in authority but fight for the good of all. The knights have never sworn fealty, merely offered servitude. So considering Carrion is /not/ the good of all, I'd say that code isn't being broken."

[Raptorious 1899]

A young scribe seems to notice something odd about this document, and makes note of it.

 

 

 

Knight’s Code of Chivalry

 

The Knights Code of Chivalry, as revised on the 7th of The Amber Cold, 1470,  by Noble Ser Maric II Varodyr, the Winged Knight and scribed by Ser Akal Ipos.

 

 

A Knight shall respect those placed in authority but fight for the welfare of all.

 

 

King Maric would note that this line was included into the code for just this reason.

[HappyShackles 886]

Another young scribe rebukes this.

"Another piece of the code is to respect those in authority but fight for the good of all. The knights have never sworn fealty, merely offered servitude. So considering Carrion is /not/ the good of all, I'd say that code isn't being broken."

 

The lad twirls his quill at the response, biting his lip before writing a reply to his rival scribe;

 

"The Code of Chivalry does not state in specific that certain aspects of their oath can override others; that would devalue the entire thing as a rag with which to wrap my fish. For, if one piece of the Code can override another, who's to say one's commitment in the Code to valorously serve your liege lord does not override the aspect of the Code that declares they must respect authority but fight for the good of all?

 

No... It would appear, that unless one can pick and choose the aspects of the Code which are more important for their individual purposes, then to violate any declaration marked in the Code would be to violate the Code."

[mylimo7 409]

King Maric would note that this line was included into the code for just this reason.

Throdo laughs at this; red mist spews out. His response to the rebuttles that are occurring in Oren: "What man has the authority to do judge what is 'welfare' to all or not, certainly not this King Maric. Who also unlawfully usurped the Kingdom of Renatus from the legitimate Tuvya. Tuvya is the only man to judge the 'welfare' of his doomed people. This conquest will be a breeze; you mortals are so dumbfounded..."

Edit: ((I like the RP coming out of this rebellion, keep it up!))

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

The lad twirls his quill at the response, biting his lip before writing a reply to his rival scribe;

 

"The Code of Chivalry does not state in specific that certain aspects of their oath can override others; that would devalue the entire thing as a rag with which to wrap my fish. For, if one piece of the Code can override another, who's to say one's commitment in the Code to valorously serve your liege lord does not override the aspect of the Code that declares they must respect authority but fight for the good of all?

 

No... it would appear that unless one can pick and choose the aspects of the Code which are more important for their individual purposes without reprimand, then to violate any declaration marked in the Code would be to violate the Code."

"When ones liege acts with dishonour, would have you dishonour yourself for his benefit, there are more oaths in the code that can be broken by following a liege that is only out to serve himself, rather than his people. Now that is merely one part of my pamphlet."

[Googlesearch 141]

Sonn Ander places his own notice on the notice board. It would read

 

"Maric never did anything in the empire anyway...Not like Tuv has. The only thing he has done is tore it apart and snipped the head of one from house Horen...Well that will come later."

 

Smiles grimly, nodding his head once as he wonders off.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

"Of course those rebelled against will call the rebels criminals. In what nation is rebellion not treason? Trying to fault rebels for being treasonous is akin to faulting fire for being hot.

 

It is amusing, from an outside perspective, to watch the once-great Oreni grasp at straws."

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

 

"Of course those rebelled against will call the rebels criminals. In what nation is rebellion not treason? Trying to fault rebels for being treasonous is akin to faulting fire for being hot.

 

It is amusing, from an outside perspective, to watch the once-great Oreni grasp at straws."

 

"Maric was branded a traitor before he rebelled for trying to legally influence the Electors, but then the Carrion Elector got upset because Maric held influence with the other two electors and would have made sure he wasn't Emperor, so he ran to his father like a spoilt child and accused Maric of treason for trying to 'Split' the Empire. Now look what the Emperor has done, he has split it further apart himself! We fight to clear our names and to restore justice, freedom and equality to Renatus and the Heartlands."

[Jachnun 566]

"Maric was branded a traitor before he rebelled for trying to legally influence the Electors, but then the Carrion Elector got upset because Maric held influence with the other two electors and would have made sure he wasn't Emperor, so he ran to his father like a spoilt child and accused Maric of treason for trying to 'Split' the Empire. Now look what the Emperor has done, he has split it further apart himself! We fight to clear our names and to restore justice, freedom and equality to Renatus and the Heartlands."

 

Harald sighs forced to argue for the greater good! 

 

"You speak of Prince Aleksander as if he is chetnik seeking to kill Heartland threat once and for all to keep dynasty on throne! Aleksander is but a young man who was nie spoiled, but worked and built good Raev town of Karovia for most of life with own hands! He would nie seek to have you men destroyed and cause such an intrigue, it would nie make sense! He has just been recently introduced to the politics of Oren for what purpose would he convince his papa to destroy a man he barely knows?" 

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

Harald sighs forced to argue for the greater good! 

 

"You speak of Prince Aleksander as if he is chetnik seeking to kill Heartland threat once and for all to keep dynasty on throne! Aleksander is but a young man who was nie spoiled, but worked and built good Raev town of Karovia for most of life with own hands! He would nie seek to have you men destroyed and cause such an intrigue, it would nie make sense! He has just been recently introduced to the politics of Oren for what purpose would he convince his papa to destroy a man he barely knows?" 

"Please mention the parts above where I said he wished to kill all the Heartlanders. We merely think Aleksander just wishes to rule over all of humanity, when it is apparent that there are significant portions of humanity who no longer wish for one Emperor over all of the cultures and peoples. What right does Tuvya and Aleksander have to dictate the course of humanity? Unity simply no longer works under an Empire and hasn't worked since the departure of Horen V. The only way humanity can achieve unity is with its people ruling themselves in their own Kingdoms and working in coalition with one another! This is what I am trying to preach!"

[Jachnun 566]

"Please mention the parts above where I said he wished to kill all the Heartlanders. We merely think Aleksander just wishes to rule over all of humanity, when it is apparent that there are significant portions of humanity who no longer wish for one Emperor over all of the cultures and peoples. What right does Tuvya and Aleksander have to dictate the course of humanity? Unity simply no longer works under an Empire and hasn't worked since the departure of Horen V. The only way humanity can achieve unity is with its people ruling themselves in their own Kingdoms and working in coalition with one another! This is what I am trying to preach!"

 

"The idea of the Carrions considering the Heartlander's ideas as a threat does imply a destructive meaning. I have nie seen much hostility between the Raevirs and Waldenians under Tuvya, seeing Waldenians visit home of Karovia freely with nie problems or commotion being caused in the area. Since the assimilation of the Konigreich in to the empire I have nie seen much hostility, but them choosing to splinter the Carrion led empire after we spared them a war acknowledging their previous crimes against us. As for Heartland I heard much complaint about the identity the Heartland wishes to achieve and their complaints of the Raevir dominating the cultures of the empire, but they never formally complained about said problems nor were there problems that were so extreme that could warrant the end of the empire!" 

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

"The idea of the Carrions considering the Heartlander's ideas as a threat does imply a destructive meaning. I have nie seen much hostility between the Raevirs and Waldenians under Tuvya, seeing Waldenians visit home of Karovia freely with nie problems or commotion being caused in the area. Since the assimilation of the Konigreich in to the empire I have nie seen much hostility, but them choosing to splinter the Carrion led empire after we spared them a war acknowledging their previous crimes against us. As for Heartland I heard much complaint about the identity the Heartland wishes to achieve and their complaints of the Raevir dominating the cultures of the empire, but they never formally complained about said problems nor were there problems that were so extreme that could warrant the end of the empire!" 

"The Waldanians never wanted to be part of the Empire, until they were threatened and bullied into it. We simply no longer want to be part of your Empire and we will take our holdings and keep this declaration of independence. We don't think Tuvya has humanities best interests at heart as he employs dogs like the Romstuns to intimidate his populace, before I joined the rebellion my men got picked up and tortured and gave them the message to tell me to stay in line. Tuvya also doesn't believe commoners should be granted trials. Why should we be subject to his rule if we no longer want to be? Because you say he's nice? Nice or not we no longer believe in the Empire and if that costs me my life, so be it, I'd rather die for a cause I believe in rather than live under constant fear of dogging."