thesaintjaleel 792 Share Posted May 1, 2018 This would be good if we had events in places other than...... Nvm, +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arygon 135 Share Posted May 1, 2018 +1I like this idea, huge plus one from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__WaterFox__ 636 Share Posted May 1, 2018 This only seems like it could help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusus 55 Share Posted May 1, 2018 The issue with this is what happens when the one leading/holding this event line gets killed by something cheap. Does that just kill the event-line? Personally I would rather just deal with people abusing revives to constantly join an event line they clearly shouldn't be in the normal way, IE staff moderation. I think being locked out of the current event for dying is pretty punishing in of itself, locking them out of all future events just makes people even more salty when they die, so you can't have player characters killed off during an event for effect. The more rules you put into how events work the more people will try to work the rules in their favor. If you have a specific issue with a player defying logic call staff on them, you don't have to host people you don't want to in your events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeventhCircle 460 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Seems fine, and if it gets abused by an et just unfairly trying to boot someone out or something IE a random rock falls from the roof and kills you. I think simply reporting such behavior to Et Management would be sufficient. I find this an exceptionally better system then hard PKs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmodan 855 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I agree with this, yet I also agree with a concern that was raised here. Given this does give more power to the ET monitoring thier events. The concern is highly valid given for example (and this actually happened a long while ago), a player joined an ET event then right when everyone ported to said location, the ET a one shot kill with lightning towards a player to remove that player. And there's been other events before of players targeted cause of ooc dislike. So that's highly something to keep in mind and I would write something to have a safe guard on such abuse to ease the players mind. Seems like an easy thing to ensure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fact Core 511 Share Posted May 2, 2018 From somebody who experienced no single event since I came back last christmas to this server, I still believe it would be fine within reasoning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaintjaleel 792 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, The Fact Core said: From somebody who experienced no single event since I came back last christmas to this server, I still believe it would be fine within reasoning. 0 Upvote Thats because they're all held in one place; the staff refuse to believe that less quantiful places have quality roleplay or that more simpler events would be better; the last event that I participated in and actually enjoyed had 4 people in it and it was a two random lions looking for food. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 8:27 AM, Licorish said: Thats because they're all held in one place; the staff refuse to believe that less quantiful places have quality roleplay or that more simpler events would be better; the last event that I participated in and actually enjoyed had 4 people in it and it was a two random lions looking for food. And this place is where? What ETs are we speaking of? The events I've run aren't run to appease large groups because large-group events quickly degrade into people MCly sprinting around, jumping, trying to shoot arrows at everything and ICly spewing memes as if it's the first time anyone has every heard them. Why not open communications with a member of the event team and speak about getting something set up around the type of RP you or your group enjoys? Why not look into doing a bounty? Why not explore for event locations? Each of these things, whilst requiring motivation and effort on the part of the player, are a means of finding assorted events in assorted locations. -- As for the concerns of ET abuse, refer to Seventh's response: On 5/1/2018 at 12:19 PM, SeventhCircle said: Seems fine, and if it gets abused by an et just unfairly trying to boot someone out or something IE a random rock falls from the roof and kills you. I think simply reporting such behavior to Et Management would be sufficient. I find this an exceptionally better system then hard PKs. Whilst some folks are malicious to anyone not within their circle of friends, it can not and should not be said of everyone. The folks within the ET are expected to provide RP, within reason, to essentially anyone. A lot of the time what keeps events from rolling out is ignorance of the desire and misuse of the ETReq system. The guidelines for which can be found here: Please, do not ask for events with specific outcomes and please do not make a random request to the ET with absolutely nothing to go off of. For example, having 4 of your buds together and just sitting in the middle of a pub somewhere doesn't make for very engaging Event RP and to simply expect someone to belch out something on the spot will only result in sub-par Event RP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaintjaleel 792 Share Posted May 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, Temp said: And this place is where? What ETs are we speaking of? The events I've run aren't run to appease large groups because large-group events quickly degrade into people MCly sprinting around, jumping, trying to shoot arrows at everything and ICly spewing memes as if it's the first time anyone has every heard them. Why not open communications with a member of the event team and speak about getting something set up around the type of RP you or your group enjoys? Why not look into doing a bounty? Why not explore for event locations? Each of these things, whilst requiring motivation and effort on the part of the player, are a means of finding assorted events in assorted locations. -- As for the concerns of ET abuse, refer to Seventh's response: Whilst some folks are malicious to anyone not within their circle of friends, it can not and should not be said of everyone. The folks within the ET are expected to provide RP, within reason, to essentially anyone. A lot of the time what keeps events from rolling out is ignorance of the desire and misuse of the ETReq system. The guidelines for which can be found here: Please, do not ask for events with specific outcomes and please do not make a random request to the ET with absolutely nothing to go off of. For example, having 4 of your buds together and just sitting in the middle of a pub somewhere doesn't make for very engaging Event RP and to simply expect someone to belch out something on the spot will only result in sub-par Event RP. My apologies, last time I checked player-requested events were unallowed now? And even so, usually when events are player requested they're not done. I also didn't request the event with the lion, so that last point is invalid if it was a hint at the event mentioned in the original post - but I feel you should know by now that most if not all events are held within the Dominion, so much that they have enough to have a shop there devoted to selling event items and lore items . I've tried exploring for event locations, it seems they arent of good quantity as I hardly find them l, and when I finally do and I ask what they do the ETs have no clue. Examples : Portals that I found along the ice wall, dragon remains near Renatus, Dragon bones in the desert, A previous battle ground in the desert, Animals found in a den near Haelun'or, etc...This leads me to suggest this - you all should document events, exchange them between eachother and write what their purposes are to be shared rather than just having one person host an event and literally be the only one that can explain its purpose or initiate it. Another error I noticed is the quitting of et members and their events and items left behind, event items from people such as "Worldiswar" had to be taken from me because the ET simply didn't know what they were for anymore, seems only one person knew its purpose - organization is important, and so is unbias.Lastly, it's a common thing for these public events to get taken up by the crowd of "superheroes". Taken by this crowd who simply can't bother to be submissive and/or secondary players, they always want to be the star of the show; hence why public events are usually not good. I went off track so my gist to you is this : Random events are good, when you don't put it in literally one place - other than that, I have nothing more to say. Just me complaining bud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Licorish said: My apologies, last time I checked player-requested events were unallowed now? And even so, usually when events are requested they're usually not done. And I didn't request the event with the lion, so that last point is invalid - and you should know by now that all events are held within the welf place, they even have a shop there devoted to selling event items now. Also I've tried exploring for event locations, and usually when asked what they do the ETs have no clues. Examples : Portals that I found along the ice wall, dragon remains near Renatus, Dragon bones in the desert, A previous battle ground in the desert, etc...This leads me to believe that you all should document events and write what their purposes are to be shared amongst eachother, rather than just having one person host an event and literally be the only one that can explain its purpose - even so I had many event items from people such as "Worldiswar" that were taken from me because the ET simply didn't know what they were for anymore, seems only one person knew its purpose - organization is important, and so is unbias. That events are only hosted for the Wood Elves is beyond incorrect. There are actually quite a few folks who, once they've seen how events play out with this particular playerbase, evade providing them with another. Requests are still very much a thing, as is communicating with the ET. What is NOT a thing is heavily scripted roleplay that allows players to have an event just to, "Tame generic animal 3." As for players having a shop just for 'event' items, who cares? If someone manages to buy up event items and open a shop to sell them, it doesn't say or mean much of anything. Event locations should all be marked by signs saying who is hosting the event. Anything that looks interesting but lacks a sign giving a contact name is probably just some flavor tossed into the map by the build team. Should you come across a sign or item that is dated, meaning the actor and builders who came together and made something for the server to enjoy but at some point, decided they no longer wanted to be ET, it will most likely just be trash or flavor items with no real purpose. It is unreasonable and to an extent, disrespectful, to expect someone to just take over the work of another as their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaintjaleel 792 Share Posted May 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Temp said: That events are only hosted for the Wood Elves is beyond incorrect. There are actually quite a few folks who, once they've seen how events play out with this particular playerbase, evade providing them with another. Requests are still very much a thing, as is communicating with the ET. What is NOT a thing is heavily scripted roleplay that allows players to have an event just to, "Tame generic animal 3." As for players having a shop just for 'event' items, who cares? If someone manages to buy up event items and open a shop to sell them, it doesn't say or mean much of anything. Event locations should all be marked by signs saying who is hosting the event. Anything that looks interest but lacks a sign giving a contact name is probably just some flavor tossed into the map by the build team. Should you come across a sign or item that is dated, meaning the actor and builders who came together and made something for the server to enjoy but at some point, decided they no longer wanted to be ET, it will most likely just be trash or flavor items with no real purpose. It is unreasonable and to an extent, disrespectful, to expect someone to just take over the work of another as their own. With due respect, I couldn't care less what type of event it is - just as long as it's well thought out and creative. I haven't made any requests as of recent but I'll try that and be sure how its reacted, most events that I request to be apart of I leave it at whatever the event team needed a group for or leave it to their creativity, nothing more. If there was something I personally wanted requested, I would use the forums to present it. I disagree with the last point though, if you're truly a team then most of your important events should be suggested and controlled as a team, rather than be completely discarded once someone decided to quit - is that not how lore and rewrites progress in this server?Doesn't most lore originate from "events"?I also feel like you're suggesting that I'm one of the people who request "scripted events", because I don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Licorish said: With due respect, I couldn't care less what type of event it is - just as long as it's well thought out and creative. I haven't made any requests as of recent but I'll try that and be sure how its reacted, most events that I request to be apart of I leave it at whatever the event team needed a group for or leave it to their creativity, nothing more. If there was something I personally wanted requested, I would use the forums to present it. I disagree with the last point though, if you're truly a team then most of your important events should be suggested and controlled as a team, rather than be completely discarded once someone decided to quit - is that not how lore and rewrites progress in this server?Doesn't most lore originate from "events"?I also feel like you're suggesting that I'm one of the people who request "scripted events", because I don't. Not you in particular but more often than not the requests we, as ET, get are scripted "I want to tame a 3headed donkey dragon" types of events. As for event sites, most events aren't 'important.' There's only one event line I know of off the top of my head that could be looked at as important and it'll be resolved before the ET in control of these events departs, if they even choose to. As for the minor region specific events that most of the ET does, it's not heavily scripted and documented in such a way that just anyone can take them over. I wouldn't want to take an event from a past ET member and risk utterly destroying what they had intended to do either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaintjaleel 792 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Temp said: Not you in particular but more often than not the requests we, as ET, get are scripted "I want to tame a 3headed donkey dragon" types of events. As for event sites, most events aren't 'important.' There's only one event line I know of off the top of my head that could be looked at as important and it'll be resolved before the ET in control of these events departs, if they even choose to. As for the minor region specific events that most of the ET does, it's not heavily scripted and documented in such a way that just anyone can take them over. I wouldn't want to take an event from a past ET member and risk utterly destroying what they had intended to do either. Well, thank you for explaining everything to me and answering in a respectful manner, I can admit that typing through mobile device disformulates my arguement presentation. Other than that, I feel you've given me a piece of mind on how to become an active member of events - so kudos to you Sir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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