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((ah forget it. idc about war anymore. if we go to war someone please be good enough to tell me))

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((ah forget it. idc about war anymore. if we go to war someone please be good enough to tell me))

[[ I would like a war myself but why would we randomly attack Alras for a feud Charles had with them which many of our chars don't know or remember. Also many of our people also has friends in Alras on top of it.

But don't Worry, There is sceduled an event soon hopefully it will be good to keep the bloodthirst down until we actually find somone we have a reason 2 kill.]]

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[[ I would like a war myself but why would we randomly attack Alras for a feud Charles had with them which many of our chars don't know or remember. Also many of our people also has friends in Alras on top of it.

But don't Worry, There is sceduled an event soon hopefully it will be good to keep the bloodthirst down until we actually find somone we have a reason 2 kill.]]

((that's true. I have no problem with alras. I came to the server pretty much right when Belin had joined since some people still thought it was Charles so my character doesn't even have memory of them seceding. He just knows they did and quite frankly doesn't have a problem with it))

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((I miss it when it was just the Dwarves and Orcs battling it out.... *wipes a single manly tear from his eye*))

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Aye, the dwarves of Kal'Alras were fools in the first place to let that grand city cede at the first sign of conflict. They should have used their standing with Urguan and Oren to stop the war, instead of calling neutrality to save their own skins. They shall either be forced to annex or they shall pay tribute. If they refuse either option, they shall be crushed by the flood of dwarves that pour from Kal'Urguan.

((I also realized that if Oren defends Alras, that would be reason enough for use to call the Orcs to war against Oren))

Do yer really want to anger the only two nations who are neutral, if not friendly with Kal'Urguan? Attacking either of them would be a bad idea, we'd have all of Aegis against us if we did that...

((Also, the Orcs don't want to ally with us, they are allied with the Elves already and they hate us.))

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((I say Oren, Alras, and Urguan burn down Laurelin and turn the desert to glass :twisted:

Actually I don't care but think that if war happens this is the way it would end up))

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((Alras may be neutral, we may be a merchant nation, but we are the richest nation in Aegis, the most prosperous, and the best trained. I have an elite honor guard that serve to protect Alras that are all supplied, and fully-able to wear full diamond, and wield diamond. I made sure of that before skills were removed a while ago. I have enough supplies stock piled to supply and reinforce any army Aegis will ever construe. I warn you now OOC'ly. If you give me an RP reason to counter attack, I will find you, and I will kill you. My soldiers are getting bored, so I implore you to indulge me. I believe the Orcs would also be interested in killing some Kal'Urguan Dwarves as well, same with Oren, and Malinor would never stand for a such attack and would come to aid Alras just as they did in the past. I will dethrone, and/or behead the leader of whoever attacks me. Now with that being said, calling us traitors is not a valid justification of an RP war, Charles wanted 200 diamond (This was near the start of the server, no one had 200 diamonds except for Alras) we said no, and we held the line, then seceded. Charles_Grimlie now lives in Alras, who'd of thought. I assure you, I have took measures to ensure the security of this nation, and if you even discuss this, I will know of it as I have spies in every nation in Aegis, and on every council. Now the real question is, will you give King Syrio a reason to retaliate?))

(( That was amazingly well put and crushed a ideas of war on Alras. Frankly, an Oren-Alras Alliance would crush a Orc-Dwarf alliance because

1: our cities are very close and we could easily defend each other if need be, the Orcs and Dwarves do NOT have that same strength

2: Alras have an honour guard and the Oren Guard on undergoing what one might call a reform. Soldiers are being recruited an trained, and all the inactive and bad ones are being removed. We are also making sure that all guards can us diamond if not iron armour and swords.

3: Oren control the Northern border and Alras practically control the main western one. You would be extremely tight for space and unable to fight back.

4: Orcs are dumb and Dwarves are midgets... nuff said. (jk)

The Elves would be likely to take our side as you are the ones who would attack first and thus start the war. The Orc capital would then be enclosed between Oren and Alras, and Malinor - and you would lose it in seconds.

So yeah, I think that war on Oren and Alras is ridiculous and all thoughts off it should stop here. :D. ))

--EDIT--

(( I has TNT too, so don't you people get any ideas >:D. ))

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[i may just end up swelling my face up by the amount of facepalming I have done recently.

What many do not understand is that the GM base or even other players unrelated with the certain nations cannot even attempt to imply things or try and lobby poorly thought and poorly informed reasons for say, a war. Sultan_Mogroka and the Orcs have all collaborated to structure one of the finest Roleplayed and finest formulated Nations in this server and to see others try and say 'I just want to help', no what you seem to be doing is either name recognition or try and stir the bubbling cauldron without any knowledge of what it contains, it will simply blow in your face and no benefit is reaped.]

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((Lord Kashi, Just to make this clear again, not a single Grand Councilor or the King has said that a war with Oren or Alras is on the table. Honestly, that would be completely against our current roleplay. The Orcs do not wish for an alliance with us since they are already allied with the Elves who we aren't on particularly good terms with right now. We've even been working together with the humans in the Verge and we came to their aid when the Orcs and Elves threatened to attack them in Aegis. While some Dwarves might wish to start a war, that is simply because we haven't had a proper battle in a few weeks now and people are probably looking for an excuse to start an event. However, realistically, a war against Alras just wouldn't make sense with our current political situation, at least with the current Grand Council.))

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((Any reason for war with Alras, or the human kingdoms would arise from old feuds, those feuds "Died" along with king charles's end of reign. But I still say attack the orcs! And elves if need be!))

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((Any reason for war with Alras, or the human kingdoms would arise from old feuds, those feuds "Died" along with king charles's end of reign. But I still say attack the orcs! And elves if need be!))

[[ hes right-ish ^^

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((As a dworc [dwarf-orc] of Krugmar, I'd say that while I'd love a war between the two nations, I don't see much reason to. A dwarf & orc against humans & whoever else would make much more sense. The dwarves and orcs do share a lot, and from what I understand, both "dislike" humans. We may share a lot of differences but think a temporary war-alliance against the humans would make sense.)

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((As a dworc [dwarf-orc] of Krugmar, I'd say that while I'd love a war between the two nations, I don't see much reason to. A dwarf & orc against humans & whoever else would make much more sense. The dwarves and orcs do share a lot, and from what I understand, both "dislike" humans. We may share a lot of differences but think a temporary war-alliance against the humans would make sense.)

[[ Many actually started to dislike the elves the most. The humans we don't hate its just.. They do so much dumb stuff xD

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(( This might doesnt makes any sence in RP but the Elves never get a war (on their self or on some other nation) We could give them a war, that could give them problems and such but I suppose it would be a war for them in ages and that would be fun.. I like wars, killing and stuff, Ofcourse I RP with it but the Elves have to join other battles if they want to battle (atleast, from what I know) so giving them a battle would maybe a pleasure for some of the elves :D it sounds weird actualy.. But we need an RP reason for it, thats why they never get wars on em, they own others in RP (jk) ))

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