Fall Of Rienna

[Thu'um 530]

I thought you stood for what is right?! Bandits attacked you over and over yet you haven't learned. You can not simply do this. You can not simply attack Rienna because it is on "your" land. Rethink this and stop with what you are doing. You...must be...stopped.

We can do whatever we want, it is our land. Also, stopped, by who? Your Artharia who proposed a War Claim on Salvus when you had no proper reasoning but greed! HA! I'd like to see your response Daniel. You have plagued Asulon with more inequities then Seventis has. If anyone needs to be stopped, it would be you. For the record, it is indeed on our land.

EDIT: Here is an outline of our current land holdings. Ascella has been abandoned and the old city of Seventis demolished. We now possess this contested land in the photograph:

The City-State you see to the south is Rienna.

[BKStein 19]

About time we got rid of that ghost town anyways. Tis a real shame I have a business meeting on that date... ((I'll be on holiday for the next week, it's a shame I'm missing what promises to be a crushing victory for our forces!)) Long live Seventis, and long live King Renati.

[Patthebakr 10]

((I think it would be a better idea to state these war claims you're making as less of a hostile takeover. Not everybody knows these places are ghost towns, and some may see Seventis as a greedy, corrupt empire due to the bluntness of your reasoning. It seems a little ironic for you to go to war with Salvus for their greed and corruption, only to immediatley attack those around you for the land they claim? I get that it's imperialism, but is there no way to RP this as Seventis saving the towns from failing governments? Maybe I'm wrong, and you're making these seem violent for a reason, whatever it may be, this is just my two cents.)

[Thu'um 530]

In regards to my previous statement, I do not hold it to myself that Seventis is all-powerful in a sense-- I did not want to seem as cocky as I implied. Rienna is a ghost town. We are not injuring any current civilization. We are simply trying to secure our land. It is true that the city-state of Rienna resided prior to our arrival. Because of this, we are sieging the city. We have checked the City's citizens for the most part, most of them seem inactive. Also, the City's governor has been inactive for a long time according to his forum account. We're not trying to destroy and civilization whatsoever. We are merely trying to secure the land we currently own. We do not plan on conquering any more land then what we currently possess.

[Patthebakr 10]

In regards to my previous statement, I do not hold it to myself that Seventis is all-powerful in a sense-- I did not want to seem as cocky as I implied. We are simply trying to secure our land. It is true that the city-state of Rienna resided prior to our arrival. Because of this, we are sieging the city. We have checked the City's citizens for the most part, most of them seem inactive. Also, the City's governor has been inactive for a long time according to his forum account. We're not trying to destroy and civilization whatsoever. We are merely trying to secure the land we currently own. We do not plan on conquering any more land then what we currently possess.

((Exactly, it's just your war claims seem to state the opposite, that Seventis is grabbing as much land as it can.))

[Kaiden 4]

"You reside in Seventis land now. Either give up the land or you will be assimilated. The people of Nornheim conflict with the interests of the Kingdom of Seventis. You have 5 elven days to send us your white flag or we will force you to raise it."

Signed, Ursolon Ironheart

((Heh, ''the people of Nornheim conflict with the interests of the Kingdom of Seventis'', you might want to change that a bit... ;) ))

Hrmf, ye fools. Don't ye see ye have become just what ye claim to have been fighting the last years? When I heard of yer troops marching on Nornheim, I were brought to believe this was only a small exeption, after all, ye have a war with the Kingdom of Salvus to fight as well. Then, ye send a raiding party on Nornheim, while yet another Seventian force marches fer Rienna?!

*Rinn sighs* What respect I once had for Seventis, is now nothing but dust. Ye have become full of greed and bloodlust, driven by the desire for power and land. Allthough there are many other, peaceful ways of doing this, ye seem to ignore them, using warfare as the first-choice, bringing nothing but death and destruction to the ones ye could bring wealth, prosperity and friendship...

If this is pulled trough ((eh, or what it's called :/)), then my blade is with Rienna.

((To make it clear, I have nothing against the Seventians OOC, but my char. can't just stand idly by, watching a nation that claimed to be fighting for the good of Asulon, doing what he believes is exactly the opposite ;) ))

[Thu'um 530]

Exactly, it's just your war claims seem to state the opposite, that Seventis is grabbing as much land as it can.

We're not trying to grab as much land as we can.. I wish others would know that we already own the land that we are fighting to acquire. I understand that this war claim is rather hostile, but this is not how we operate.

[SDJFDSJNFDSLKJVNDFBN 315]

I am already in the process of contacting the Old Rienna leaders. If they dont reply then we will recognize the town as abandoned. Even the Dux of Rienna says he is the only remaining citizen.

I hereby cancel this warclaim. It was done about in the wrong way, Seventis is not here to conquer those who stand in our way. If it is true that the town is abandoned then we will respark it with life and prosperity.

This warclaim is null. It's main purpose was so that the Rienna leaders would have a chance to respond and if they didn't it would be marked as a ghost town and we would revitalize it. This has turned into a conquest for land and crushing of opposition, and I do not like it. If the town does fall under our control peacefully, I will install the Dux of Rienna, Tiberius, as Lord.

Please disregard this warclaim from here on out as it has turned into a march for land instead of the rebirth of an abandoned city. I will not stand for this and peaceful talks will continue as originally planned.

[ACanadianCraft (Nate) 682]

*Breathes a sigh of releif

Huh. I was worried for a second with Ursolons declarations of violence, that we'd actualy be stooping so low as to attack a defenceless town. We're in contact with the leaders now, and we'll be working out a peaceful solution. Next time Ursolon, try speaking smooth words of peace, instead of threats.

[Patthebakr 10]

-snip-

((I also urge you to check out the other two rather violent and malicious war claims. It seems that there may have been a miscommunication on Seventis' part, which isn't an insult. It happens to the best of us =)

http://www.lordofthecraft.net/forum/index.php?/topic/50470-the-forced-famine/

http://www.lordofthecraft.net/forum/index.php?/topic/50467-the-eviction-notice/))

[Hiebe 2493]

Please keep this in rp or warnings shall be delt()

[Eppich 15]

I am already in the process of contacting the Old Rienna leaders. If they dont reply then we will recognize the town as abandoned. Even the Dux of Rienna says he is the only remaining citizen.

I hereby cancel this warclaim. It was done about in the wrong way, Seventis is not here to conquer those who stand in our way. If it is true that the town is abandoned then we will respark it with life and prosperity.

This warclaim is null. It's main purpose was so that the Rienna leaders would have a chance to respond and if they didn't it would be marked as a ghost town and we would revitalize it. This has turned into a conquest for land and crushing of opposition, and I do not like it. If the town does fall under our control peacefully, I will install the Dux of Rienna, Tiberius, as Lord.

Please disregard this warclaim from here on out as it has turned into a march for land instead of the rebirth of an abandoned city. I will not stand for this and peaceful talks will continue as originally planned.

Renati, I applaud your actions here. Seventis should set the image of a peaceful nation that is happy to intergrate those who already existed in the region first, not warmongers who pillage and burn those around them.

[Ursolon 197]

Renati, I applaud your actions here. Seventis should set the image of a peaceful nation that is happy to intergrate those who already existed in the region first, not warmongers who pillage and burn those around them.

Quick note here: I didn't create these war claims on my own. These were discussed with King Renati and I just happened to be the one who wrote it. I am in no way a "warmonger". Understand that this is our land now. We have the right to do whatever we would like to it. (( Also, both Nornheim and Rienna are empty.. Ghost towns.... If you'd rather I posted "Nornheim, i'm coming with cookies and flowers, please give me your land" i'll do that. I don't like how everyone is so butt hurt when somebody loses something. Why is everyone's character so boring? As for Nornheim, I can't create my city because the region is too close. I plan on destroying the manor that sits on the land so why would I make a peaceful proposal and then just tell them i'm blowing it up? ))

[Kaiden 4]

Quick note here: I didn't create these war claims on my own. These were discussed with King Renati and I just happened to be the one who wrote it. I am in no way a "warmonger". Understand that this is our land now. We have the right to do whatever we would like to it. (( Also, both Nornheim and Rienna are empty.. Ghost towns.... If you'd rather I posted "Nornheim, i'm coming with cookies and flowers, please give me your land" i'll do that. I don't like how everyone is so butt hurt when somebody loses something. Why is everyone's character so boring? As for Nornheim, I can't create my city because the region is too close. I plan on destroying the manor that sits on the land so why would I make a peaceful proposal and then just tell them i'm blowing it up? ))

Well, I've heard there's still someone living in the Manor, so you could simply try and buy him out...?

[Ursolon 197]

((Cute. Downvote me because I'm threatening. The LotC community is so sensitive... ))