The Most Important Rule - No O.o.c. When Replying

[Taiga 764]

As the title states, this is to remind people to /not/ post OOC / Brackets in guild sections. They are purely meant for roleplayed messages or recruiting purposes.

I am advocating for the creator of each topic to control the amount of OOC going on in their topics. Closure will result if major infractions are committed in their topics. If you do not wish for your thread to be closed, message a Forum Moderator to assist you in removing the thread.

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For any newcomers, they must take heed of this rule and keep in mind, punishment will follow from multiple offences.

How Warnings Are Distributed:

One post merits a warn with no change in warn status.

Two results in addition of a warn status.

Three results in banishment from a specific guild topic and a warning.

Four results in complete banishment from the guild section.

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Leeway will be given to those who have been on the server for less than two (2) months. They will not receive a change in warning for the first two infractions. Infractions past that will result in normal punishment.

This is to reinforce the already given rules. I have nothing against guild-creators, but I will have indifferences to those who decide to post mindless OOC in pure and innocent topics.

With apprehension,

Syrenne

-If you have any comments, questions, or concerns, feel free to PM me-

And yes, I hate OOC in roleplay with a burning passion.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

is OOC at least allowed to "clear things up"? I mean, OOC is always going to be a part of Roleplay. If, for example, something happens involving a player in the guild's rp, would a post by the Guild Leader along the lines of "((Alright, we rerally need to make sure we step up the RP.))" and so forth, would that be allowed?

[Taiga 764]

Or you could PM it to the person directly? There are myriads of ways to contact them out of game/guild forum.

[deathmetus 152]

Simon it is very hard to pm the amount of people that we would need to contact, as well we cannot pm all the members of are guild at once, since the pms have a limit of people we can pm. If this is really what is going to happen then I really must insist that the guilds be given a section to discuss stuff ooc. We really need a way to do this so that we can keep in contact with all our members, due to time zone differences and due to the fact that many of us on ts do not go to the same channels, so I really need to ask, could there be an ooc section for guilds please?

[The Zealot (Sir_Wyvernos) 248]

As Simon has stated, there are many ways to relay information. The group I am in uses pms along with ingame knowledge. Yes, I am sure it is difficult sometimes to relay information to large groups but it can/is being done. The pmed group of five people that I am in is probably the sixth of possibly seven pmed groups, just to get information. I used a google doc for my trading company, along with pms ingame, and there is always the option of Skype, TeamSpeak, or Emails. Either way, this is a rule that has been refreshed as a reminder.

Edit: Again, though there is a limited number of people who can be added to a pm, it can be done and is being done.

[domainoft 191]

What do you need to tell your members OOCly that is relevant to your guild RP? Anything you wish to do with the guild could be said ICly with a little more effort and everyone will benefit from the RP.

[lugarthecougar 57]

I have to agree with death, if this is going to be enforced more heavily there really should be an OOC section for guilds to contact all their members more easily. We shouldn't be trying to make things more difficult on guild members and owners, but instead more accommodating.

[Eledyr 85]

What things would need to be said to all guildmembers that can't be done though a roleplay message? Also I strongly advice against an ooc forum since that would be the gateway to metaheaven

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

What things would need to be said to all guildmembers that can't be done though a roleplay message? Also I strongly advice against an ooc forum since that would be the gateway to metaheaven

Say a guild member has to be away for a few weeks or something like that? In a large guild, it could take 30 minutes to send the group messages to everyone when you could spend 30 seconds typing a message on the guild page.

It's the benefits against the tedium.

The benefits of no OOC... (slightly) cleaner forums.

The tedium of no OOC: Having to spend exponentially more time than it would normally take.

[Eledyr 85]

Loyal fellows of my guild,

It is with pain in my hart that I have to say that I will be gone for 3 elven weeks.

I'd rather stay but my <relative or friend> is sick and he needs a medicine that can only be found in the far away plains. I have taken this task upon myself for the safety of my friend.

After these 3 elven weeks I will return and take the tasks as guild member upon me once more.

Signed,

Always loyal, Nikias

(( I will be gone for the next 3 weeks ))

This is a rp way of saying that you will be gone for some time, as you see I added an ooc note at the end but that is not even needed. Just like I did this you can rp almost everything.

[Areon 947]

((*COUGH Illuminus Obscurum Post COUGH*))

[Taiga 764]

((*COUGH Illuminus Obscurum Post COUGH*))

If you didn't realize, OOC banter has halted ever since the implementation of this said rule.

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Now to relay information, you are forgetting that there are third-party elements that can still be used. Skype, Teamspeak3, and even email will serve it's purpose greatly.

You must understand, there are topics that are /riddled/ with OOC banter. They have been gaining fame and prosperity whilst the other meek guilds become obscure due to the constant bumping of the topic.

To give imagery, would you like it if someone kept pushing their way infront of you in line? It doesn't seem fair, does it now?

I understand why you will still seek OOC to distribute information in OOC manners, but as Wyvernos has stated previously, OOC information can still be relayed through IC. This rule is to prevent tangents that often occur in these guild topics.

I will be petitioning to increase the size of PMs to accommodate more people. If you see this as the right choice, please beg for the GMs to add this.

Apologetically,

Syrenne

[deathmetus 152]

If you can make the size of PM groups larger than I see can see this as a fair compromise. I understand that many can use skype and teamspeak but the reason I have trouble with that is time zone issues. The forum is a great way to solve those issues as comments can be made and seen across the time zones. That alongside the fact that it takes longer to organize that is why I said what I said. However Simon I do understand your issue with ooc, my issue with rp only is that people meta no matter what and at least if I can say it was ooc then I have a claim for a warning or ban report, but people find RP ways of finding out information that shouldn't be possible.

So long story short, if we as the player base can get the PMs to have a larger amount of members in a conversation I am all for it, if that is either not allowed or not possible I really request that guilds be given a way to have a subforum, or forum threads that can be ooc for everyone else except members, and have that be enforced as well as the amount of ooc in the rp forums.

And Simon I do understand, this was just a point I wished to make, not to criticize, and I thank you for reading Simon. Good luck with the petition and if you need sigs go ahead and sign me up.

[Hobolympic 1093]

I assume the already made guild threads with OOC will not be withdrawn/revoked/warned, as this rule was not on the table back then. Correct?

[Taiga 764]

I assume the already made guild threads with OOC will not be withdrawn/revoked/warned, as this rule was not on the table back then. Correct?

Yes. They will not be removed.

However, it is still the topic owner's responsibility to advocate the use of IC chat fully. Perhaps if the topic owners had permissions to delete/unapprove threads, it will be less of a hassle on us...

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I shall make a post advocating the possible addition of this. Perhaps if the GMs bother to read the Ideas and Suggestions for once, we would possibly make a step in the right direction.