_pok_ 1768 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [[There's a bigger, complete base there already so you'd have to take that too. Also, you still have to beat us a Volvokrem to do this.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEbrown 348 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 [[There's a bigger, complete base there already so you'd have to take that too. Also, you still have to beat us a Volvokrem to do this.]] [We are attacking this smaller base, so just region off the larger one on the mountain chain. And I do not believe we have to beast you at Volvokrem to take this place. There is no rule that states that.] [[Mabye Talk to the Orcs and see if you could do a few small skrimishes a few days of the Territory if they Argee Instead of one big fight for it?. If so This shall be reviewed once a proper date has been settled]] [The structure they have built so far is not very large, it wouldn't need several battles for it. The only reason I am making the war claim so close to the Volvokrem one, is the fact it is right up against our borders and is in spitting distance of my hold. Also, the date will remain Sunday at the time listed, 6 PM EST.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [We are attacking this smaller base, so just region off the larger one on the mountain chain. And I do not believe we have to beast you at Volvokrem to take this place. There is no rule that states that.] Then, if we were to win at Volvokrem, nothing stops us from Marching into Kal'Anart while you do this and effectively not let you return home while another group fights you off from our fort. Not to mention it is within five days of that last war claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxis 813 Share Posted August 5, 2012 For order to this to be fully judge please show a Map of where you soilders will mass and where they will March to. And any Forts/keeps in bewteen to make sure the marhcing path through the Regions are avaiable. This can be sent over Private Pm's or Post it here does not matter[] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEbrown 348 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 Then, if we were to win at Volvokrem, nothing stops us from Marching into Kal'Anart while you do this and effectively not let you return home while another group fights you off from our fort. Not to mention it is within five days of that last war claim. [We are not attacking main areas here, we are attacking seldom used areas with not much activity. That reference of marching on Kal'Anart doesn't make sense. Again I will state, you are in spitting distance of the hold. It only make sense that we would fight you off our lands if you are to build so close to it. We wouldn't have a delayed reaction to this, hence the closeness of the war claims.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [We are not attacking main areas here, we are attacking seldom used areas with not much activity. That reference of marching on Kal'Anart doesn't make sense. Again I will state, you are in spitting distance of the hold. It only make sense that we would fight you off our lands if you are to build so close to it. We wouldn't have a delayed reaction to this, hence the closeness of the war claims.] [[but it still does not stop us from marching into your hold if we win at Volvokrem, I could effectively march right up to Kal'Anart while you are away doing this and have a few people kill the guards you leave behind. We effectively take one of your main holds while you get a measly fort. So, why are you putting this up so prematurely if you don't even know that you are going to win at Volvokrem? A bit of over confidence, no? Also, to be honest I don't even know what it is nor does any of the other Orcs [to my knowledge]. We own something right behind it though, but that's different. And I'll restate that it is in the rules that you must wait 5 days between conquests, no matter how large or small or close the land is.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEbrown 348 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 [[but it still does not stop us from marching into your hold if we win at Volvokrem, I could effectively march right up to Kal'Anart while you are away doing this and have a few people kill the guards you leave behind. We effectively take one of your main holds while you get a measly fort. So, why are you putting this up so prematurely if you don't even know that you are going to win at Volvokrem? A bit of over confidence, no? Also, to be honest I don't even know what it is nor does any of the other Orcs [to my knowledge]. We own something right behind it though, but that's different. And I'll restate that it is in the rules that you must wait 5 days between conquests, no matter how large or small or close the land is.]] [You do not have a war claim up on Kal'Anart so I think that's a bit out of the question. Even if we lose at Volvokrem, that doesn't mean we cannot attack and gain your lands, just cause you still have some of ours. Also, I pm'd you the battle plans Uthor. Also, I can't find these rules, can you link me? I'm curious.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [You do not have a war claim up on Kal'Anart so I think that's a bit out of the question. Even if we lose at Volvokrem, that doesn't mean we cannot attack and gain your lands, just cause you still have some of ours. Also, I pm'd you the battle plans Uthor.] [[This entire War Claim is illegitimate in the sense that it is within five days of the last one, not to mention Kal'Anart is within spitting distance, and RPly, we could and WOULD march in Kal'Anart when you were all gone attacking a fort that has no meaning nor significance to us that we can defend with five people or blow it up. Example; Riven, Salvus War.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEbrown 348 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 [[This entire War Claim is illegitimate in the sense that it is within five days of the last one, not to mention Kal'Anart is within spitting distance, and RPly, we could and WOULD march in Kal'Anart when you were all gone attacking a fort that has no meaning nor significance to us that we can defend with five people or blow it up. Example; Riven, Salvus War.]] [For you guys to have this little thing built so close, if we are talking what makes RP sense or not, you wouldn't even have the time to build anything since we could see you begin construction. You would be attacked immediately and the place be torn down, instead of being able to build up whilst we could do nothing.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxis 813 Share Posted August 5, 2012 This Warclaim Shall not be accpted until at LEAST the 5 Day rule is after the Vovlokrim or what ever it is spelled Battle has happend. If this battle it to happen in its stead, then The Vovolkrim battle shall be pushed back even longer. The 5 day rule applies to a whole nation. If a conquest happens NO OTHER regions can be conquest until that 5 days are up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pok_ 1768 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [For you guys to have this little thing built so close, if we are talking what makes RP sense or not, you wouldn't even have the time to build anything since we could see you begin construction. You would be attacked immediately and the place be torn down, instead of being able to build up whilst we could do nothing.] [[RPly, we could've done the same at Alras, no? Also, its in the War Claim itself, you wrote copy pasted it yourself. Also, the region you are attacking is a very large region. Inside it we have a gigantic fort that is within arrow distance of that thing, so you would need to take that as well. Since even if you could take it, a few Orcs to walk out of the gate and retake it when you leave.]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEbrown 348 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 [[RPly, we could've done the same at Alras, no? Also, its in the War Claim itself, you wrote copy pasted it yourself. Also, the region you are attacking is a very large region. Inside it we have a gigantic fort that is within arrow distance of that thing, so you would need to take that as well. Since even if you could take it, a few Orcs to walk out of the gate and retake it when you leave.]] [i do not understand what you are trying to say about Alras, we had the strong footing in there anyway, all you took where the farms. With the large region thing, it can be regioned off since RPly we are not attacking that for farther north. A fair compromise of the region can be made. I understand that none of this could be fully kept up with players logging on and off. You could, in theory, walk up to the empty fort after we took it and claim it as orc lands. But since this is a minecraft server and a game, people have lives to get to. Just try to think with some imagination. EDIT: Idk how you got that land anyway, I have yet to find a war claim conquering that contested land that you have built upon.] This Warclaim Shall not be accpted until at LEAST the 5 Day rule is after the Vovlokrim or what ever it is spelled Battle has happend. If this battle it to happen in its stead, then The Vovolkrim battle shall be pushed back even longer. The 5 day rule applies to a whole nation. If a conquest happens NO OTHER regions can be conquest until that 5 days are up. [The war claim will be pushed back to the 17th of August at the same time listed.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevias 275 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I don't think you can conquest the entire massive region, by stepping into a worthless pile of rocks. You'd need to actually invade the land, first. Don't beat around the bush coward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkarll 314 Share Posted August 5, 2012 [[but it still does not stop us from marching into your hold if we win at Volvokrem, I could effectively march right up to Kal'Anart while you are away doing this and have a few people kill the guards you leave behind. We effectively take one of your main holds while you get a measly fort. Theon Greyjoy anybody? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEbrown 348 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 I don't think you can conquest the entire massive region, by stepping into a worthless pile of rocks. You'd need to actually invade the land, first. Don't beat around the bush coward. [Watch it with the insults, keep it civil. I will state once again, for the third time now, the region under attack can be regioned off so that it wouldn't include the upper regions where the other fortress is located.] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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