A Guide To Fist Fighting

[Lvke 1000]

 

 

Now, you may be looking at this and sighing. However, I have noticed that many, many people have next to no idea how fist fights work. It really is quite frustrating to watch people taking blows and acting like a solid wall. Now then; ONTO THE GUIDE!

 

 

 

 

Taking a Punch

 

Now, I see many people taking punches and acting like the only thing that hit them was a pillow. In reality- a punch hurts like hell and will drop 95% of unprepared people, even a lot of prepared people. It is really common for fist fights to only last one punch as all it can take is one good hit to get someone down on the ground. For example;

 

*Bob steps forwards towards Phil as he talks, swinging a vicious right hook for his right cheekbone and nose area
*Phil's head snaps too the side from the force of the punch as he turns slightly and slips to the ground in a heap, his eyes flooding with reflex tears as blood trickles from his nose, his eye swelling.

 

The above is what a sudden, unexpected punch should be like. Phil won't be able to do much when he can't see and can't breathe properly. However, most of the time, such an action ends up going like this;

 

*Bob steps forwards towards Phil as he talks, swinging a vicious right hook for his right cheekbone and nose area

*Phil stumbles back slightly as the fist slams into his face, shaking his head briefly as he draws his sword, slashing out at Bob's chest with perfect aim as he does so.

 

That is completely inaccurate and bad. Punches, even if not in an area with easy to damage places will hurt. If anyone here has been punched in the stomach or ribs, or even shoulders, they'll know what I'm saying. 

 

Now, for expected punches, it is different, but still quite similar. In general, face/jaw/stomach hits will put you down. If someone socks you in the jaw, you will be dazed, and even knocked out if enough force is applied. If you are punched in the stomach, you will be winded more often than not. If you get hit in the face, your nose is likely to be damaged, and even then, there is a lot of bone, so whilst your attacker will feel it, you will be in a lot of pain with a high chance that the skin will be split, causing blood flow that has a chance of getting in your eyes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Punching

 

Punching, although one of the most simple and natural methods of human attack can be quite complex with different techniques. The most basic and what should be the most common type of punch is the haymaker, the very first sort of hit most untrained/unfamiliar/rage filled people go for. It packs a lot of power but is rather wild and inaccurate- quite easy to dodge of beat with a straight jab. 

 

However, unless the hand is protected by something, any blow will leave marks on the knuckles and after a time of repeated hitting over a long time span, calluses on the knuckles will form. Usually though, (unless they are dark skinned, like black dark skinned) red spots will be on the knuckles as well as a slight bruising feeling.

 

If the punch is delivered with the three knuckles of the middle finger, ring finger and pinkie, the punch will hurt and jar the puncher. If using the index and middle knuckles when punching, the attacker will feel not much pain, but the person getting punched will feel a lot.

 

Overall. punching is a basic, often messy but effective way of attacking with often drastic results that require urgent medical attention if enough blows are delivered, or if the right places are hit with the right amount of power.

 

 

 

I will continue to add and edit to this guide with the help and input from the community. For now I shall leave it at it's current basic level, adding more sections later with each edit.

[Lvke 1000]

EDITLOG

[lev 627]

gg no re

[hjgklmn0ajuvxc 688]

yimmy's guide.

Click them till yer stamina is down, once its down run around in circles till tis all green so you  can click them again.

[Drazker 307]

I disagree completely. I've seen plenty of fights where it's lasted much longer than only one punch, both IRL and seeing both amateur fights on Youtube and professional fights in UFC. Your idea of one-hit K.O.'s greatly underestimates the human body's ability to absorb physical stress and the effect of adrenaline on a person's endurance.

 

You're also stating the facts as if everyone has the same strength with their punch or can throw a proper punch. This is not the case. You did not describe how to do any punches. You didn't even describe the haymaker, the one type of punch you did outline. Uppercuts, jabs, hooks, throws, grappling, dodging, adrenaline, awareness, and focus are all things you should focus on in this guide, not just you simply telling people how to emote how they should fall before your fist.

[Wolf Druid Ouity 1461]

I usually start things off with a backflip, and a triple kick to the face in midair, followed by a karate chop through the chest cavity. 

 

(That's just me though.)

[Helvetius 314]

Considering I was punched IRL straight in the nose by another man who just wanting to take out stress on the person next to him (being me unfortunately). I disapprove. I literally, as you say is NOT true, stumbled back just holding my nose. However I will say I was stunned and he could've jumped forward to fairly easily beat the **** out of me then. Its just I didn't fall to the ground in a heap with a bloody nose... In boxing you could have what is known as a glass chin which is when one hit can knock you out even with gloves on (I'm in boxing). Then there are those who can withstand it and keep fighting... Again, it is with gloves on though that is an example of what I mean. Different people, different pain levels, ect...

 

To say most/everyone will get knocked out by a surprise punch is unrealistic. Yes, some may, though not all will. There have been fights between grown men in which the other has to literally pound the other's head into the ground just to knock him out.

 

-Nub-

[Aislin 4354]

It only takes 6 pounds of pressure applied to the temple or jaw to knock a man out.

[Helvetius 314]

It only takes 6 pounds of pressure applied to the temple or jaw to knock a man out.

It depends if you could actually do it. The guy who punched me wasn't able to so again, it varies on the person and conditions.

[Mining 129]

Working on a mega post explaining the punches a lot more in depth, brace your self children

[Lark 2227]

As a martial artist, the body can take many, many blows before it gives. A punch to the face will knock someone out if enough force is applied, but punches to the body won't do much if the person has the mass to back it up. Gronkk is a wall of meat. A punch will do nothing to him If its in his torso area. If we now take say...a high elf, a punch to the torso will leave a mark due to their lean physique. The body's resistance is dependent on physical resistance, pain tolerance, energy. and physical mass. I'm 6'1, weight 190lbs and my favorite sparring match was with a brown belt where I had him on the floor in a chokehold in the end. What I'm saying is, you are underestimating the body, the spirit of an individual, and personal pain tolerance. The concept for the guide is good, but you can't tell people what they can and can't take when it comes to down and dirty fisticuffs. People were tough back then. You punch a guy in the gut, he'll be winded, but if he knows how to recover from it, that fight just got a lot more interesting.

 

As a side note, a punch to the sola plexus can and will knock the wind out of you, possibly kill you if you punch hard enough. I should know, I've given and received hits. You can't build up muscle around it either, if you get hit in it hard enough, you are done. The best way to protect yourself from getting hit there is to keep your hands up, which should be emoted. Problem with roleplay nowadays is people are lazy or forget emotes(I usually forget to be more specific with my emotes to be honest) so its kinda hard to deal with.

[Mining 129]

Alright, let me try and clear this up from my own knowledge. First, ill try and offer a more in depth description of the different types of punches (as someone who trains in kick boxing and martial arts)

 

As a pre note, I would like to say that its a good idea to emote your characters fighting stance. My character for example uses a standard boxing stance when hes fighting, which means feet side on and shoulder width apart, elbows tucked, arms up in front of my face with the left in front of the right and chin tucked in. Now to the punches

 

Lets talk haymaker shall we?A haymaker is the 'punch of choice' of a person who does not know how to box or fight with their fists. A haymaker is a large, swinging punch with your fist. I suppose it can be compared to a hook, however a hook is much more structured where as a haymaker is basically a big swing, hoping to hit them as hard as you can. While it may be an 'amateur punch' a lot of power can come from this. Because lets face it, when a big guy is trying to smack you as hard as he can with a haymaker (and people often step into their hay maker punches) amateur or not, its gunna hurt. A lot. Ill go in to actually taking the punch a bit later. The thing about a haymaker, is that you can see it coming a mile away. No mater how fast you think your character is, I present you a simple question - What is the fastest way between two points? Why straight of course. A haymaker is NOT a straight punch, it is a swinging punch, making it easy for a prepared and skilled fighter to duck under, jab, dodge, counter, use your imagination! But if it does hit you, itl hit you like a tonne of bricks!

 

Moving on from the haymaker, we have the jab. The jab, is a punch usually done with the left hand (unless your left handed). A skilled boxer will pivot their foot with the punch and make full use of their reach whilst throwing a jab. But what is a jab? Easy! A straight punch! Its fast, going straight from point a to point b, and still packs a decent punch (hurhurhur cause we're talking about punching :P). Now, something I think people need to realise about the jab is that reach plays an important factor and should not be ignored. The jab is a personal favourite mine, because I have long arms, generally longer than my opponents. The easiest way to understand the reach advantage, is to find a friend with much longer or shorter arms than you. Get the person with longer arms to put their fist gently (not a punch) against your face and hold their arm out straight. Now the person with shorter arms holds THEIR arm out straight, and you will notice they won't be able to reach, will mr long arms can. So if you're character has short arms, don't expect to instantly counter someone who's just thrown a jab at you without moving in first. Kicking is a good way of countering a reach advantage, but thatl have to wait another day

 

And then we have the thunder to the jabs lightning, its companion. The cross. Generally with the right hand (unless left handed in which case with the left hand) it isn't nearly as quick as the jab, but it definitely packs more of a punch. Coming from the hand further back (when in a standard boxing stance) and the dominant hand, when pivoting your foot and putting your whole body into it, this bad boy is quite the power horse and coincides well with the jab, with jab cross combinations. People (usually non trained/skilled) fighters will sometimes pull their right hand back as if 'coiling' the punch before punching someone. Personally I don't do it since it slows you down and gives the opponent a bigger warning, but it certainly adds a little extra mph 

 

Now, for the most part those are the only two punches most people will used. But if your characters a bit more experienced or wants to spice things up, we have the hook and the uppercut

 

Now the hook is, in a way, similar to the haymaker in that they both get power by 'arcing' the punch. But the hook is a much more structured punch. The most important part of a hook, is pivoting your whole body in to the punch. Whilst pivoting your body with jabs and crosses certainly add power and in some cases reach, you can more or less get away with not doing it. With a hook however, you can't really get away with not turning your feet. A hook involves bringing your fist around, keeping your whole arm parallel to the ground. If you're unsure, refer to this picture http://www.physical-arts.com/training/techniques/images/an_hook_punch.gif

now, while not the BEST quality, notice the way his feet pivot with the punch and his arm and fist are all in line. Thats a hook for ya. A hook can be done with either the front left hand or the back right hand. As with the jab and cross, the front left hand (unless left handed) is generally faster while the back right hand packs a bigger umph 

 

And finally, we have the uppercut. Now, the uppercut comes in two different flavours if you will. Theres the uppercut to the jaw, and the body shot. Now, any one who knows how to fight will know to keep their chin tucked in, as its the first defence against the jaw uppercut. None the less, an uppercut to the jaw can still happen when your jaw happens to be too far out and your opponent goes in through your guard. Done right, this is a powerful, and often KO punch. Then theres the 'body shot' uppercut. The name says it all really, its a body shot. Very very VERY rarely going to end someone, but itl certainly soften em up, possibly damage some ribs depending on the circumstances 

 

Well, I've just realised how much ive written so me thinks I will take a short break before editing in the information on being punched. I hope this helps!

[Lark 2227]

^ That. Those punches are most of the untrained man's fighting moves You sir get a +1

 

 

Side note, don't forget kicking, and simple sweeping, etc.. 

[5678 260]

And this is why I use crossbows

[Lark 2227]

And this is why I use crossbows

 

Steelwall Brand Crossbows are best crossbows.

 

Back on topic...

 

I would also like to add that there is severe lack of "general" hand to hand combat fighting. Perhaps we should outline what RP training is, redlines of things, etc, keep a check on powergaming.