TreeSmoothie

@HugoAnterowould this be a bad time to say .............................. dare I say,

WOMP WOMP

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@TreeSmoothie
As Hugo Said Im not Reinmaren
Im speaking on new nations as a whole; if a community of people have the members and ambition to generate rp for a new independent project why stop them

On conquered nations; I understand why you might think there's no consequence to loosing a war. However, there is a cooldown and a huge resource/land and fatigue factor to loosing a war;

Large portions of communities dont return and in some circumstances leadership also leave; such as in the Vale's example as you have mentioned, the leadership of that nation is now different and their community drastically reduced.
However, I've seen them set up refugee camps and have done rp sufficient enough although less to perhaps establish a new community, again as long as they have the people I dont see the issue

As much as the BarclayBros deserve their own realm, and while I'm happy to see a waldenian nation come up ...

I think it, server wise, it's continuing the bloat as you said smoothie. 

Mostly because they went with the usual (and extremely bland nowadays) medieval hereditary government style with a small twist of two princes.

I wish they could have added to the server and not fed the bloat by reaching into their Tribal customs and having a DIFFERENT government than the rest of the server.

Maybe like some early tribes/clans.... they could at least elect a leader from the House of Barclay or idk.

I can't tell them how to run their place, but even with a Moot, I doubt it's any different than the Haense Duma where they have little power and the Prince/Princes say all.