Finding Shades

[susitsu 871]

The OSL does heresy tests on anyone who looks dark and shady anyways.

Cut skin

Attempt to heal skin with clerical magic

if no heal, is necromancer or shade

???

profit

except we get healed anyway.

 

the pain a shade experiences is not from the healing. it's from the moving of corruption in their body, to be exact. when healed, they are also cleansed in small amounts, however temporary it is.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

except we get healed anyway.

 

the pain a shade experiences is not from the healing. it's from the moving of corruption in their body, to be exact. when healed, they are also cleansed in small amounts, however temporary it is.

man screams in pain when healed by holy magic

"hmm normal people aren't hurt by healing" says cleric

point stands, clerical healing is basically a lie detector, like huwel said. well, clerical anything is.

[Moot 1719]

man screams in pain when healed by holy magic

"hmm normal people aren't hurt by healing" says cleric

point stands, clerical healing is basically a lie detector, like huwel said. well, clerical anything is.

However it's very meta. "Oh, I know you're a Shade OOCly, but trust me, this is a random act! In no way did OOC prompt me to check you of all people!" I don't buy it. If someone did that to me, I'd call BS.

Considering we play on a server where IC and OOC play a thin line, I feel that shouldn't be an option in discovering who's naughty or nice.

[The Templar 195]

The OSL does heresy tests on anyone who looks dark and shady anyways.

Cut skin

Attempt to heal skin with clerical magic

if no heal, is necromancer or shade

???

profit

Just pointing this out, but using clerical healing in such a manner is rather abusive. If you're wrong, you've inflicted pain on someone for no reason. If you're right, you got lucky. It would be best in the future to rely on other methods.

[Lyuin 65]

I'll be quite honest, acting like that is very lawful neutral, not lawful good. While there are those who go into knighthood or even healing for the duty, but I would think most of the clerics aren't out to sadistically hunt down dark beings.

 

I believe Kalen is one of more lawful neutrality rather than goodness, as is presented in his duty stance to the world. Hosper would be presented as more neutral good, having codes he can go by, but will take things into heavy thought.

Exactly my point. It's rather un-cleric like to just blast a suspect on a whim with your powers granted by the patron. Thus unless you're absolutely sure and there's clear indication of said person being a shade, I doubt many clerics would risk it.

[hosper 77]

The OSL does heresy tests on anyone who looks dark and shady anyways.

Cut skin

Attempt to heal skin with clerical magic

if no heal, is necromancer or shade

???

profit

I am sorry but this is wrong on potentially every single different front. To start if you could provide a list of the Clerics doing this action of cutting everyone's flesh or allowing people to cut other's flesh to do this test I would appreciate it. I would appreciate it because I would like to personally see to it that they are disconnect from their patron for acts that do not make sense and essentially break a Cleric's archetype and lore. 

 

The shade or necromancer still gets healed from Cleric healing. Shockingly they still have mortal flesh that Cleric magic effects. Also something people seem to have forgotten is unless a Cleric effectively applies a sedative or other pain killer to the area it is going to hurt like a b**** while it is healed. Having light pinch a cut together as it stitches through it will hurt just as much as if you do it with your hands and a needle and thread. Having bone move within your body by the light back to where they are supposed to be... best believe you will be crying out in pain. 

 

This is why lore had to be changed. Acts like this are total abuse of Holy Magic and are a sorry disguise for what is effectively metagaming. 

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

I am sorry but this is wrong on potentially every single different front. To start if you could provide a list of the Clerics doing this action of cutting everyone's flesh or allowing people to cut other's flesh to do this test I would appreciate it. I would appreciate it because I would like to personally see to it that they are disconnect from their patron for acts that do not make sense and essentially break a Cleric's archetype and lore. 

 

The shade or necromancer still gets healed from Cleric healing. Shockingly they still have mortal flesh that Cleric magic effects. Also something people seem to have forgotten is unless a Cleric effectively applies a sedative or other pain killer to the area it is going to hurt like a b**** while it is healed. Having light pinch a cut together as it stitches through it will hurt just as much as if you do it with your hands and a needle and thread. Having bone move within your body by the light back to where they are supposed to be... best believe you will be crying out in pain. 

 

This is why lore had to be changed. Acts like this are total abuse of Holy Magic and are a sorry disguise for what is effectively metagaming. 

I've done it a few times on my creator cleric but only 'cause I was ordered to. And it wasn't forced, it was an optional choice given to the prisoner suspected of being a shade as opposed to being executed or something. Needless to say my Cleric doesn't take part in the OSL's executions or killings, however.

[CosmicWhaleShark 2488]

To back up what Hosper said with the guide that I assume 'creator' clerics are still using.

 

 

With this established, if a body is rapidly repairing itself. Any cut that you produce Leo would throb and pulse and scab over - and more importantly be just as painful - than if you waited two weeks or whatever for it to heal.

 

If this is the trial that you are doing, then it would be appropriate to explain the RP behind it as simply being staged and tampered with, or just impossible to come out squeaky clean - like witch hunts where you needed to drown in order to be proven innocent.

 

Also, I just want to stress this point -

 

 

Just be careful with what you're using "healing" for.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Regardless of what's SUPPOSED to happen according to the lore, My Cleric believes the test works ICly, and I let the necromancer or shade or what have you RP his reaction however he feels is appropriate. And again, it's not a 'forced' healing test, it's an optional test given to people on trial in the OSL as a chance to prove their innocence.

[Rig 17580]

Why argue this? It's obvious that doing it is meta-ey and a weak attempt at figuring it out. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you do, rp is a two way street. It's supposed to be a beneficial, fun experience to both sides. 

[Cyndikate 2303]

Maybe you should not have your race set as Shade. The only players who can detect shades are Itharel and ascended, and there are only 4 Itharel.

[Rig 17580]

Maybe you should not have your race set as Shade. The only players who can detect shades are Itharel and ascended, and there are only 4 Itharel.

This would probably help. 

[TheBareSheet 194]

Moved to the Archive. It shall be sorted into the appropriate category shortly.