Proposed Amendment To The Articles

[Fimlin 1997]

It's not about the Kingdom controlling Clans, it should be the Clans controlling the Kingdom

if dis is true den woi are ye forc'n fathers ta resoign? clans controll'n da kingdom is exactleh wut weh want, nae da othahway around, unless yer remove da part ov resigin as clan fathah ah dunnae approve.

[Hiebe 2493]

(Problem with lagos system is the need for guilds. If we get rid of guilds like kjelly wants ti then I would suggest using my system of.points.

Also I dont like the fact that clan fathers cant sit as lords. We dont have many dwarves dont separate jobs and positions up too much

[JVQ 1719]

A Lord Term sits parallel to that of a Grand Clan term, not give the guilds more power but give them absolute jurisdiction over their guild, with a lord having to have an extensive vote in order to change/remove. I like the bastard council idea though

It is so Lords don't carry ou their influence in to their clan. If the Lords make a bad decision it can't get vetoed because they run the clan and they would disagree with it. You could easily pass the clan down and focus more on government than clan culture and it would make a bigger impact on the kingdom rather than just your clan.

[Fimlin 1997]

It is so Lords don't carry ou their influence in to their clan. If the Lords make a bad decision it can't get vetoed because they run the clan and they would disagree with it. You could easily pass the clan down and focus more on government than clan culture and it would make a bigger impact on the kingdom rather than just your clan.

((wrong quote but ik what you mean))

"nae, it is nae da kingdom's job ta git into clan business, its ah famileh, ah famileh chooses it's own leader, influence is somtin everehun 'as, n' ah can do government n' clan work jus' as foine as it was mah onleh position. Yet 'gain unless dis part bout resoign'n as father is removed, ah dunnae approve."

[JVQ 1719]

Clans have a seat on a council regardless of whether they are families, so in a sense they get a say. If a clan father is a lord then there is no point having the clan council at all. Because the Lords control both the councils. That's what this system eliminates

[TEEbrown 348]

(Problem with lagos system is the need for guilds. If we get rid of guilds like kjelly wants ti then I would suggest using my system of.points.

Also I dont like the fact that clan fathers cant sit as lords. We dont have many dwarves dont separate jobs and positions up too much

 

[Agreed, guild have become a hindrance to the growth of clan centralized rp and rp in general. If clans held the guilds and carried out their duties it would be much more interesting. We did this on Arteh's server and it worked out wonderfully!] 

[Fimlin 1997]

Clans have a seat on a council regardless of whether they are families, so in a sense they get a say. If a clan father is a lord then there is no point having the clan council at all. Because the Lords control both the councils. That's what this system eliminates

"Ah dun 'old sway over Fili, if ye want da clans tuh jus' 'ave ah say moine swell jus' bring back clan lords, n got rid o da clan council.

But unless sumtin changes ah Dunnae approve, dis is nawt up fer negotiation, change it or der will beh no signature ov moine."

[Charles_Grimlie 1072]

[Agreed, guild have become a hindrance to the growth of clan centralized rp and rp in general. If clans held the guilds and carried out their duties it would be much more interesting. We did this on Arteh's server and it worked out wonderfully!] 

 

[Amen, if it wasn't for those damned Golden-Keys.]

[Hiebe 2493]

[Amen, if it wasn't for those damned Golden-Keys.]

(There was a doc made in January that did this and the few who saw it didn't like it cause they wanted to be the Jack of all trades.

If clans had specific duties then they would take pride in it and everyone would have to trade.

Idk im waiting to see Charles proposal, the final product before we go to 4.0)

[Josh3738 3137]

"Ah dun 'old sway over Fili, if ye want da clans tuh jus' 'ave ah say moine swell jus' bring back clan lords, n got rid o da clan council.

But unless sumtin changes ah Dunnae approve, dis is nawt up fer negotiation, change it or der will beh no signature ov moine."

Zahrer nods, agreeing with several of Fimlin's statements. "Ah willnae soign eitheh. T' dictate a clan's leadehsip beh interferin in t'eir own proivate business. Per'aps clan each clan may 'ave a lurd but based un th' gran' king's decision as always. Weh onleh gut...wut...foive active clans anehway...nae much uf a change...at all...but it limits th' build up uf tuu maneh lurds frum one clan. Change it up a bit befure ah soign."

[Birdwhisperer 1174]

Moved to the Great Library. It shall be sorted into appropriate category shortly.