MamaBearJade 2090 Share Posted April 4, 2015 This doesn't change the fact that the Mentors were crap before, and will probably still be crap. I appreciate the ability to help, but any moron can see that it's the player base who has to help the new players, not another useless staff team. Makes me sad too that we can't just get up and help others anymore, maybe the community's too big, but Guides and Mentors were **** and will always be ****. Not that the admins or GM's care, though, what actually happened or the logic, or what anyone says. It'll be ignored because the admins think they know what's best, even if it's blatant that last time it crashed and burned and should have stayed in it's shallow grave. Edit: This came off meaner than I should have wrote it! I seem too bitter this morn! Cheers. Please do not be upset with Read over it. The reason it came back is because I was pushing for it. Read has been backing this because, unlike last time, I have been making changes. The team has been back for a little while now and so far has been well going. I brought in several who were leaders or of importance to their race. They were tasked with two things: Help players get acclimated to the server and Increase their playerbase. Wait? How does that work? Well, if you bring a new player who is a dwarf in, show them its fun and exciting where you are at, you just gave the new player an RP hub and increased your own playerbase. Mentors is an attempt to help two issues. Now do I want to see mentors go away? No. But I want to see them inspire others to open their arms. If you have an ideas that may make mentors run better this time, let me know. Show your support to players who will not only help new players, but also inspire the old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aislin 4354 Share Posted April 4, 2015 We accepted about 130 applicants last month. How many of them stayed on the server? When I was new, the only reason I didn't go running was because I had a support system that showed me how to get a house, how to roleplay, ect. If you guys made new players spawn in their racial capital instead of some dumb ******* Cloud Temple this wouldn't be an issue because nations do this every single day with new players. More often than not, noobs just have no ******* clue where to go. Further thoughts on Cloud Temple can be found here 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 4, 2015 If you guys made new players spawn in their racial capital instead of some dumb ******* Cloud Temple this wouldn't be an issue because nations do this every single day with new players. More often than not, noobs just have no ******* clue where to go. 100% this. New players don't know where to do and get frustrated when they can't find people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey1992 20 Share Posted April 4, 2015 If you guys made new players spawn in their racial capital instead of some dumb ******* Cloud Temple this wouldn't be an issue because nations do this every single day with new players. More often than not, noobs just have no ******* clue where to go. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
๖ۣۜ§osa (E.G.I.E.) 520 Share Posted April 4, 2015 This is unneeded in its entirety. Let the players and the AT teach, welcome, and help new players, not new staff positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meg 1994 Share Posted April 4, 2015 If you guys made new players spawn in their racial capital instead of some dumb ******* Cloud Temple this wouldn't be an issue because nations do this every single day with new players. More often than not, noobs just have no ******* clue where to go. Although Aislin comes off as a bit harsh, this is so incredibly true. The new map is small, but it is SO CONFUSING. There are little to no road-signs, so many detours, and finding your way out of the cloud temple is insane. A reworking of the road system is really needed right now, IMO. It's just confusing, really. Or have some sign at the start of the temple telling players they can SS to their capital. Something, the temple is a good idea when it is clean and easy to understand. In Anthos there was a large road, and it led to a split, with signs indicating clearly which way the orc/dwarf/elf/human lands were. It is very important that players can find their way to where they should be to find help. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndikate 2303 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Mentors and Guides didn't work before and it won't work this time.If anything, it's going to cause more damage to the community and new players since now that we have staff teams that help them, there's less incentive to bother with them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecoLamb 959 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Mentors will never work as long as the community as a whole is toxic. We should be cutting down on excess teams, not adding more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicWhaleShark 2488 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Should get a handle on your current staff teams first before making new ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Should get a handle on your current staff teams first before making new ones. They could make a staff team to do that. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconthief 682 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hey, it's a staff them that pms new players and welcomes them. It's essentially the wallmart greeters. It's not a bad idea and I've been doing it lately with dak, getting dark elves help with their lore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hey, it's a staff them that pms new players and welcomes them. It's essentially the wallmart greeters. It's not a bad idea and I've been doing it lately with dak, getting dark elves help with their lore Tons of players already did that though. When I was unbanned I had to make a new persona and like 5 players messaged me welcoming me and offering to answer questions(they thought I was new). That was in the morning GMT so there were only like 20 players on. So we really don't need the mentors. This is just gonna encourage players not to bother because the staff'll do it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconthief 682 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Tons of players already did that though. When I was unbanned I had to make a new persona and like 5 players messaged me welcoming me and offering to answer questions(they thought I was new). That was in the morning GMT so there were only like 20 players on. So we really don't need the tmentors. This is just gonna encourage players not to bother because the staff'll do it. I never got that treatment on my alt Just because it happens to you, doesn't mean it's the same in all cases. What we've been doing is gathering a group of people, well known for a particular race. We'd accept an application and send said mentor to the person. I've seen it working, and from being in the start up test program I think it's worth expanding on. But in the end we'll just have to wait and see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor 1550 Share Posted April 6, 2015 i like giving people the chance to stroke their internet ego by having a useless and colorful tag in front of their name for accomplishing a job players should all try to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever 2648 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Seriously, though, I was instrumental in the dismantling of both the Guide team but I did that??? ,w, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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