The Imperial Colilition VRS Crimson Vale

[Ledi de Villy 11]

We never attacked them!!!!

WTF??? who did? Screen and proof it?

[susitsu 871]

We never attacked them!!!!

WTF??? who did? Screen and proof it?

Nobody said anything about someone already being attacked.

[Valgt 1]

We never attacked them!!!!

WTF??? who did? Screen and proof it?

"if they attack"

IF, as in if they happen to be there when you attack, they will defend their tavern and friends.

[Garn 14]

It seems to battle is off unless Juvens agrees. Seems of the town only the shadow rangers have the stones to fight back in a battle they may lose.

[Valgt 1]

It seems to battle is off unless Juvens agrees. Seems of the town only the shadow rangers have the stones to fight back in a battle they may lose.

I'm pretty sure both Juvens and Susitsu said they were going to fight for the town, but they just don't WANT to fight, as most people wouldn't. Even when you win a battle, you lose things to the battle itself.

What I dislike here is that the good guild who is suspicious of the evil in the town is planning on attacking it and killing everyone inside. Some sort of asking the towns people, checking the town, or even requesting the king or Ascended to investigate seems like the more legitimate thing to do.

[susitsu 871]

I'm defending my damn home which you are threatening. I live there, sometimes give people tours, and welcome people in when I'm around. We have shown no hostilities to anyone. You got told something, you're supposed to be the good guys against the undead. You investigate, not attack. This thread WAS going somewhere until you just started saying Crimson Vale is going to be yours. You are acting like a villain about it.

[Hiebe 2493]

*Juvens hides in his "city" and cowers before people

;)

[Juvens 199]

Do I? No...I just got in trouble for TOO MUCH fighting...that's why I try to avoid it. And you can attack us, but taking over? That are two different stuffs, you have no right to take over anything ;)... If he has the right, and I do not know about it, let me know, so I can start conquerring land. If you want to attack, set up a background story with lore and stuff (min. 300 words) then we can talk about an attack. Our city lore sais, we support good RP, not just bullshit of a guy who is "WTF FFS PWNZOR RAAAGE"-ing...And brett, if you can attack something or someone for rumors, then don't complain next time, you know what I'm talking about.

Greetings

[Valgt 1]

I fully support that Juvens should probably be investigated, as well as the town, and actions to be taken against the town for any evidence found BUT I don't wish for an entire town with some nice people in it to be wiped out. This seems like something that the Ascended SHOULD be told about.

I want player vs player conflict in the world as well, but this has a lot to do with the undead which the Ascended are experienced in handling.

@Juvens Could you stop making threats now? Its really not helping at all.

Yes, you CAN attack due to rumor, but if enough of the public doesn't support your reasons for attacking then they will turn on you, for example, the public seems pretty sure that the rumors about your town are true so they should be able to attack you without other people getting in the way. If you on the other hand, decided to say you were attacking Haven because you belief the Acsended are secretly undead, most of the public would either help defend Haven or dismiss it for being bad RP.

[Juvens 199]

The point is, these arrogant guys, don't realize, that we are a one of the few who offer fresh people a start up...they just hear some rumors and start attacking whatever they want...that's just bullsh*t. The whole thing is based on a meta-revenge because that one guy got banned and the other guy supports him. I've also heard, that alstion supports undeads, now ill declare war on them, uuuuhh!

[Valgt 1]

And then the public would turn against you and you'd probably receive even more attacks and threats. You sort of painted yourself a target by consorting with evildoers, and because of that its going to be hard to gain any support, if you tried to pull this, with your character, good results would be very unlikely. These people could be secretly evil (Im not saying they ARE, just could), and plan on attacking you BECAUSE you help the new players and they also have knowledge of your past evils that they can use as a front for their attack.

No-one here but the Imperials themselves know the REAL reasons to as why they are attacking and they've found a smart way of doing it.

[susitsu 871]

"A smart way of doing it" Tell the GMs will you. I want to see a GM say you have proof or a good reason.

[Theofratus 1]

Something you guys don realize is we arent holy avengers we want that town we just happen to have positive reason behind and we dont want to execute anyone just juvens for sure then question others to see if they are guilty as well...just cause you dont like our rp reasons does not mean anything i dont have to write a 300 word bullshit anything juvens we dont need proof its rp in real life people did things with very little proof so is our rp we are going to raid you and if we find people from your town we will rp kill them on sight we are at war you can deny us all you want you can qq about rp all you want and make 60 different excuses but you are going to have to fight us eventually so be ready or qq more either war we are at war

[Valgt 1]

"A smart way of doing it" Tell the GMs will you. I want to see a GM say you have proof or a good reason.

I never said it was right, just smart. Theofratus just sort of exposed their true intentions anyway and I believe an support they had is going to start disappearing now.

Also, just to make sure its clear, I am in no way affiliated with the Imperials or the town.

[Juvens 199]

You want a raid, but you didn't tell any time, nothing. If you want to raid, clarify it. I'm just pissed of so noobish things and just for notice: you can raid us, but for taking over or destroying the city you need a lore. You can't just take over any town you want. Otherwise, as I said, I'd start to conquer Aegis, thought.