Racial Tensions

[Ned Lud 1260]

I say let the ban reports and ((whining)) come. We'll keep our heads up and wage legitimate conflicts and to hell with anyone that's got an unwarranted problem with that. We don't want to fight cheaters and poor role-players anyway, so let them expose themselves and we'll check them off the list and move on.

If we can't declare war outright, we'll get a band of a dozen orcs with approved Villain Applications and roam the land regulating and bullying every weakling in sight until they're forced to declare war on us. Then we'll bury them all in the Krugmar sand.

Our directional movement is all up to the Warlord, of course. I do like the potential lately though.

[moondoggy 27]

Noah and Ned...what they said.

[Urahra 5777]

The funny thing is, back before WWI, wars were waged simply over territory. Now wars are more about ideology.

We have plenty of reason to wage war with any of the nations, simply because they won't stop intruding on our land! Or we could just wage war because we want THEIR land! "Ooooh, Oren is so fertile! Oooh, Kal'Urugan is full of gems!" Those are two LEGITIMATELY GOOD reasons for waging war, considering the "time" we're playing in.

But I agree with Noah. Basically, we're holding off on war because of this "greater threat" ideology. It's stupid. Realistically, we'd see our neighbor Oren getting harassed by the undead and use that momentary weakness to strike. They're busy trying to hold off the Undead. They won't notice an orc attack coming from the rear.

Besides, orcs would view themselves as the only race strong enough to defeat the undead. All these pinkskins are just getting in the way. So it would make sense for orcs to want to eliminate the pinkskins and take on the Undead by themselves.

[Johnnycide 5]

Why not fight a war because of the scarcity of resources caused by the undead? Oh lets say, because of the undead various resources (iron, wood, coal, etc.) and especially food become harder to obtain on a national scale causing riots in each of the respective nations. The nations come to the conclusion that there simply isn't enough resources left to be shared and only enough for maybe a single nation to thrive.

Like Urara said, we take the opportunity of Oren under siege by the Undead to raid their stockpiles because we believe Orcs are the only race that truly stands a chance at outlasting and beating the Undead?

[Urahra 5777]

I could see us fighting a war over farmland. Krugmar doesn't have much dirt to grow things on. We see Oren, with all its pretty green fields, and we decide to take some of those fields for ourselves, maybe?

[UltraRed 78]

But to my knowledge, Orcs don't like bread, and do their best to only eat meat. Although Oren does have lots of livestock, so maybe that could work...

[Urahra 5777]

Exactly. Fields for livestock.

And I think even orcs need a little fiber in their diet.

[UltraRed 78]

There's probably plenty of fiber in the stomachs of the halflings and humans that they eat! Oh, and also pigs. And cows. And nice juicy halfling-steaks.

[Urahra 5777]

Oh, stop! You're making me hungry!

[Archmage 2]

The Orcs in this thread have the right ideology. I really do think that even though the undead are here you Orcs should be attacking and taking advantage of the other race's weakness. Hell I love that after Kramaroe was blown up there has been a HUUGGEEE increase in orcish banditry (if you wish to call it that). I have seen quite a few of you roleplay even if you have not seen me. I personally love it when the Orcs are acting Orc-y it adds to the world. I am with you fellows HATING people who cant stand to lose.

Honestly though the best thing to do is take screenshots of your RP then ignore them. If they QQ and meta attack you file a ban report. (When you kill somebody I know many of you don't take everything you leave em with some dignity) I know at least one orc does even if I don't remember his name.

[GrimBeard 46]

The orcs were actually the ones ooc fighting us,))

[Seventh / Ryan 93]

Yes, but the problem with waging war against another Nation, is that every nation is being attacked by Undead. For example, you see Oren being attacked, so you invade it, but moments later, the Undead show up at your city, and start attacking you. I say we fight off our bigger problems as a whole, and leave the rest until later.

[Ned Lud 1260]

Da lesser races is only get in way of glorious victory over da Undead. When da forefathers was deceived, Krug were da only one to take stand and challenge Iblees in open klompin'. Him stood alone. As Him sons and daughters, da orc is prepared and honored to do da same. If any of da tree lesser races give us trouble or get in way, we flat dem. If Ascended give us trouble or get in way, we flat dem too. If Undead show up, we flat dem as well. Da true orc is not afraid to wage five-front war if it come down to dat. Be happy wit da little diplomacy dat lat get.

[Baisha 8]

Yes, but the problem with waging war against another Nation, is that every nation is being attacked by Undead. For example, you see Oren being attacked, so you invade it, but moments later, the Undead show up at your city, and start attacking you. I say we fight off our bigger problems as a whole, and leave the rest until later.

Why though? It's not as if there are loads of undead constantly attacking your cities everyday. IMO races should still fight, and if the undead opt to take advantage of the chaos, then all the better (that is if they do it well and don't just jump in randomly pew-pewing) because that is what they are supposed to do. I don't see any reason to band together, save for some of the larger events where undead fortresses are being seized, but even then the races still begrudgingly cooperate with each other, and can still lead to some unexpected outcomes.

[Ned Lud 1260]

((I've always wanted to challenge someone to and initiate an arena-style brawl in the middle of an Undead Keep assault.))