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40 minutes ago, Agy said:

Any death that wasn't caused by bloodloss (on the CA that might as well be immune to bloodloss) would have your Witch Soft-PKed indefinably

Okay - this makes sense why some FW became upset upon being discovered. Personally i always put it as the chronic 'I don't want to lose'  illness LotC is plagued by so tnx for clearing it up 👍
 

 

44 minutes ago, Agy said:

Disguise RP kinda sucks butt? It is an unsustainable form of Spoopy RP that even when it's working only allows you to engage in SoL RP slop in some random town.

From a player's & as a guard character's POV back in 2023 ?sep/oct? - it was quite fun to have bunch of FW run around disguised as nuns - poisoning & kidnapping people. It did generate some internal RP of distrust between the church & commonfolk and make my character travel to Haelunor libraries & reach out & become friends with other nation's guard forces. Granted i can see how it would turn into an un-fun witch hunt for the FW community.
 

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16 minutes ago, MrMojoMordor said:

From a player's & as a guard character's POV back in 2023 ?sep/oct? - it was quite fun to have bunch of FW run around disguised as nuns - poisoning & kidnapping people. It did generate some internal RP of distrust between the church & commonfolk and make my character travel to Haelunor libraries & reach out & become friends with other nation's guard forces. Granted i can see how it would turn into an un-fun witch hunt for the FW community.

No, you'd actually be right in that case! I should've been more clear; Disguise RP can be extremely fun but only works as intended when you always have something far more stable to fall back into.

 

For example, if I disguised my witch today, did a bunch of sketchy stuff in a city and got exposed, said disguise, all of its connections and status had just been thrown into gutter.

 

And that's okay! Because disguises should never be expected to last and you should still keep a low profile even when disguised to avoid any manner of hunters.

 

Which is why when said RP becomes your ONLY kind of available RP, that you end up with cases of a single instance of maybe metagaming, maybe some random innocent bloodtest or maybe just good ol' investigation work causing months' worth of RP to be undone in an instant, as you were kinda forced to put all of your eggs into one very unstable basket.

 

It was a frustrating ordeal for everyone involved and I am ironically so very happy that it was finally fixed into what it should've been like.

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2 hours ago, Agy said:

I might as well do this properly.

 

 

After the amendment batch back in spring, it became extremely clear to me that the issue did not lie on some sort of (very real) Metagaming tendency of  at the very least some players for years, but rather just the simple fact that... Disguise RP kinda sucks butt? It is an unsustainable form of Spoopy RP that even when it's working only allows you to engage in SoL RP slop in some random town.

 

And the reason for why this type of RP had became the ONLY option for the CA for Years, was the simple fact that engaging in ANY kind of actively murdery antagonist RP would literally have your own lore go out of its way to punish you.

 

Any death that wasn't caused by bloodloss (on the CA that might as well be immune to bloodloss) would have your Witch Soft-PKed indefinably, requiring an entire Frost Mother (which we've already established as being in a near constant shortage before even the most active one went and got himself banned like a dumb dumb), two whole other Frost Witches - and a freshly killed female corpse - You had to plan an entire hunt to revive a witch slain from either carelessness or infact another hunt. Leading in cases of Veteran players like Luv and Kiko being stuck in soft-PK purgatory for year(s) on end before it was our group (the last one remaining at that) itself that brought them back.

 

And along with the fact that your magic would get absolutely gutted if you stepped out of a place already drowned in snow, every spell requiring an extra emote, becoming significantly worse if not downright useless and some being outright unable to use. Which certainly did not help that the only nations in the northern part of the continent were chronically inactive. It is no coincidence that as soon as these aforementioned amendments passed, that things like Skjoldienhjold (the UNHIDDEN icey keep in the far north) popped into existence and the Fjarriagua going on raids on the regular for the first time ever. One of the first raids we went on for example lead to the entire group getting obliterated in the Crub Bucket... And it was so much FUN! Which prior to the amendments would've resulted in the literal extinction of the CA as a whole, it was that big of a deal.

 

The problem never was the FWs being weak "CRP-Wise" or something silly like that, they never even got a buff to their CRP capabilities in all this time, simply reworking the climate system to allow them to use their base magic where people were actually active.

 

 

Which is why stuff like this is nothing but a blatant lie. The CA 100% was on the path to grow to become sustainable in its activity at long last (at least as much as all the other CA/MAs) , because you now had actual capabilities to engage in RP, hecc, I did far more impactful Antag RP in the first month after coming back from my summer hiatus than I had in my ENTIRE time as a Frost Witch.

 

 

Which is what exactly had changed. I wasn't going to resume taking care of the CA when the only thing you could as an "Dark CA" was lure some poor dude on a back alley and shank him with 3 different knife-holding Fjarriagua that couldn't use their magic at all, because all your rituals and feeding mechanics needed you to murderhobo. The Fjarriagua could actually do stuff and grow as a community, and when its players' characters had grown enough I would make sure to make them Frost Mothers as well to finally end the cycle of the CA crumbling if the (last remaining) Frost Mother didn't get online to be a ritual battery.

 

And in Diogen's defense, creating a new Frost Mother takes a really long time of actually "training" a new batch of newly cursed witches for them to be considered "Veteran" enough to take on the mantle, which certainly didn't help that prior to said amendment there was a huge burn out rate, as well as the fact that no sane person would get the 5-slot literal punishment to your character that becoming a Mother is, unless you were OOCly forced to (Source: My dumb dumb butt).

 

I am really sorry to everyone, if I had the choice I would've asked literally anyone else to take on the mantle instead of me, what with me having been nothing but a terrible person to many many people that had tried to help in whatever way they could. But I promise, the CA still has so much left in it to make a full recovery.


you love talking about urself huh

 

me too. 
 

I also love talking about myself.

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5 hours ago, Werew0lf said:


no there hasn’t been a recent uprising in their community let’s not lie to ourselves

 

I apologize for coming off the wrong way as I have really been out of touch with the community and their wants n' needs. I am not here to sugar coat, merely express the nostalgic sense that I have carried from playing this CA in the far and recent past.

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13 hours ago, Werew0lf said:


you love talking about urself huh

 

me too. 
 

I also love talking about myself.


most constructive post in the thread (explains playing a frost witch & the activity problems) vs. rage badly concealed in lower case irony

 

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I don't know about Frost Witches nor do I care at all. But watching these ass Story team members troll on here and pick on these kids wanting to be special is mad. These guys should not be on your staff team.

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Due, in my opinion. Though, it's a shame - these things are never timed perfectly. All I have to say, for better or worse, is that much of the Frost Witch aesthetic can still be kept with numerous available combinations of water evocation, alchemy, vampirism, and MArts. The CA, though, was on its last legs. 

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This is what dio would have wanted in his absence, thank you ST inc.

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1 hour ago, DISCOLIQUID said:

Due, in my opinion. Though, it's a shame - these things are never timed perfectly. All I have to say, for better or worse, is that much of the Frost Witch aesthetic can still be kept with numerous available combinations of water evocation, alchemy, vampirism, and MArts. 

I do genuinely think that the Fjarriagua were always something extremely unique within the server, far beyond the basic niche of an "Ice Sorceresses" or "Witch".

 

The mixture of their gleefully monstrous nature that they never make any excuses for, the way that their dominion of over ice is described as a "Extension of their body", their highly communal, social and teamwork-based nature as they see each other as one big family of inhumane abominations.

 

And even the more lore-y bits such their wonderfully written creation by Wyrvun, Skjoldier's mix of mysteriousness and ever present sense of it being their "Home" despite all that.

 

It's not something that can ever be replicated by a Voidal Magic letting you shoot out ice cubes.

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1 hour ago, Gridlock said:

I don't know about Frost Witches nor do I care at all. But watching these ass Story team members troll on here and pick on these kids wanting to be special is mad. These guys should not be on your staff team.

 

You're trying to "roleplay" your character? Dude. What the **** are you doing?
 

Don't you know that I (someone who spends 25 combined hours a day on the forums and discord, but who you have never seen or interacted with)   think that's cringe? (inarticulable)

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Just now, monkeypoacher said:

 

You're trying to "roleplay" your character? Dude. What the **** are you doing?
 

Don't you know that I (someone who spends 25 combined hours a day on the forums and discord, but who you have never seen or interacted with)   think that's cringe? (inarticulable)


???? You're confusing me Mister.

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Just now, Gridlock said:


???? You're confusing me Mister.


idk man im a little bit stupid

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