TEMPLAR AMENDMENT PACK [WARNING: TEMPLARISM AMENDMENT]

[HugoAntero 1962]

WARNING! WARNING

POWERCREEP AHEAD!

 

This magic has not felt fun to use for ages, and I asked Templars for their opinions for changes and how they feel about certain spells. Some of the spells feel incredibly underwhelming, or have no identity (in one case). This amendment is coming from an uncle who has (arguably) used this magic the most on this server. All I ask is for the Lore Team to really grind their gears about this magic's place on the server.

 

FERVENT FLARE

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[T2] FERVENT FLARE - ACTIVE

 

When surrounded by enemies, or perhaps seeking to disrupt wicked sorceries, a Templar may set ablaze the courageous aura that swells within them and expel it outwards with a blinding flash. A vibrant white will overwhelm the sight of those who bear witness, and those deceitful foes who would hide within the realm of shadows are forced to manifest.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Fervent Flare requires [3] Emotes to cast: The First to brace one’s body in a stiff position, the Second to manifest a courageous, wispy white aura about their person, and the Third to expel said aura within a [10] block radius. This spell may be cast a maximum of TWICE per combat scenario.

 

Victims who gaze upon the expelled flare will be endowed with blindness for [2] emotes. The First emote would be a complete blindness as one’s vision becomes overwhelmed with a white radiance. The Second emote following would be akin to a partial haze as their vision begins to recover, with rough shapes being visible.

 

Invisible entities such as Ghosts, Corcitura, ETC. would be forced to manifest and become visible should they find themselves within range of the Fervent Flare. Too would Deadbreath be made transparent within a [4] Block radius for the duration [5] Emotes; it is noted that should a Templar be T4 or higher, the Deadbreath will dissipate completely within the allotted radius.

 

REDLINES:

• Fervent Flare does NOT affect those who divert their head or close their eyes. A Templar must close their eyes in order to remain unaffected by their own spell.

• Fervent Flare’s radius is a maximum of TEN BLOCKS from where the Templar is standing when expelled.

• Fervent Flare’s effects are momentary, and last only several narrative seconds when exposed. This is to say that there is no long-term visual damage.

• Fervent Flare is incapable of affecting Seers and the blind.

• Fervent Flare is incapable of affecting Illusions.

• Fervent Flare will render invisible entities visible to the naked eye. This said, Fervent Flare cannot be used to check for Ghosts unless there exists a reasonable explanation for a Templar to be suspicious.

• Dark Hazes originating from Dark Magic, such as Deadbreath, would be made more transparent as a result of Fervent Flare for the duration of 5 emotes and in a 4 Block radius. This is to say that only visibility will drastically improve, but other debilitating effects of the Dark Haze may still affect a Templar. This does NOT apply to Smoke Whispers or Voidal Obsurcants.

 

 

 

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[T2] FERVENT FLARE - ACTIVE

 

When surrounded by enemies, or perhaps seeking to disrupt wicked sorceries, a Templar may set ablaze the courageous aura that swells within them and expel it outwards with a blinding flash. A vibrant white will overwhelm the sight of those who bear witness, and those deceitful foes who would hide within the realm of shadows are forced to manifest.

 

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MECHANICS:

Fervent Flare requires [2] Emotes to cast: The First to brace one’s body in a stiff position while manifesting a courageous, wispy white aura about their person, and the Third to expel said aura within a [10] block radius. This spell may be cast a maximum of TWICE per combat scenario.

 

Victims who gaze upon the expelled flare will be endowed with blindness for [1] emotes, with their vision a complete blindness as one’s vision becomes overwhelmed with a white radiance.

 

Invisible entities such as Ghosts, Corcitura, ETC. would be forced to manifest and become visible should they find themselves within range of the Fervent Flare. Too would Deadbreath be made transparent within a [4] Block radius for the duration [2] Emotes; it is noted that should a Templar be T4 or higher, the effect is [3] emotes.

 

REDLINES:

• Fervent Flare does NOT affect those who divert their head or close their eyes. A Templar must close their eyes in order to remain unaffected by their own spell.

• Fervent Flare’s radius is a maximum of TEN BLOCKS from where the Templar is standing when expelled.

• Fervent Flare’s effects are momentary, and last only several narrative seconds when exposed. This is to say that there is no long-term visual damage.

• Fervent Flare is incapable of affecting Seers and the blind.

• Fervent Flare is incapable of affecting Illusions.

• Fervent Flare will render invisible entities visible to the naked eye. This said, Fervent Flare cannot be used to check for Ghosts unless there exists a reasonable explanation for a Templar to be suspicious.

• Obscurants from Dark Magic, such as Deadbreath, This duration is [2] emotes for a Templar under T4, and [3] emotes for a Templar T4 or higher. This is to say that only visibility will drastically improve, but other debilitating effects of the Dark Haze may still affect a Templar. This does NOT apply to alchemical or Voidal Obsurcants.

 

 

 

Reasoning: Fervent Flare is one of the least used spell outside of aesthetic non-crp ones (barring bound armament). Its only use is to serve as a tool to clear deadbreath, which the radiant banner does faster and better. Reducing its emote cost to 2 will make it better to use, and the lower stun count is a way to balance that. Reducing its effectiveness on deadbreath serves to make the worst templar banner (radiant banner) better.

 

FURIOUS FLAMES & BOUND ARMAMENT

[Furious Flames change]

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[T3] FURIOUS FLAME - PASSIVE + ACTIVE

A Templar, who has become experienced in manifesting their aura, will discover that their fiery courage now subconsciously manifests about their first-drawn weapon. Enwreathed in Holy White Flame, a Templar’s instrument is endowed with the corruption purging effects of Aurum, albeit incapable of imprisoning souls. Too would this flame sear the corrupted souls of corrupted beings, inflicting great debilitating pain.

 

However, a Templar is warned. Should they disregard the honor of their first drawn blade by choosing another, their enwreathed flame will subside for the remainder of the battle lest the Templar kneel in penance and remanifest their holy fire manually unto their next chosen weapon.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Furious Flame is a Passive Ability which affects the first weapon a Templar uses during a CRP scenario. While active, Furious Flame will endow the weapon with Aurum-like properties, resulting in a searing and debilitating pain upon creatures with altered souls and/or which possess a weakness to aurum. In the event that a Templar changes weapons, Furious Flame will dissipate for the remainder of combat unless resummoned.

 

Furious Flame requires [5] Emotes to resummon: The First requires a Templar to kneel and press their weapon into the ground, the Second to draw upon their courageous aura, the Third to manifest it as a white flame, the Fourth to enwreathe the fire about their weapon, and the Fifth to stabilize the imbuement. This mechanic may also be performed to imbue a second weapon, in the case of dual wielding, with Furious Flame.
 

It is noted that in the event that a Combative Voidal spell makes contact with Furious Flame, the effect will subside for a total of [3] emotes before reactivating. Further, should a Templar enter the proximity of a Voidal Tear or Hollow, too would Furious Flame find itself incapable of being activated for the duration a Templar remains within its effective radius.

 

REDLINES

• Furious Flame passively affects only the FIRST weapon a Templar draws. Changing weapons will result in the spell’s dissipation for the remainder of CRP unless resummoned. This does NOT include Shields, lest the shield itself is the primary weapon. Furious Flame CANNOT imbue Ranged Weapons, excluding thrown melee weapons [Crossbows, Bows, Slings, Javelins, Throwing Knives, et cetera].

• Furious Flame is indicated by an enveloping white flame about the weapon. It is noted that this fire is incapable of illumination, burning, blinding, ETC. To non-corrupt entities/structures, it is completely harmless.

• Furious Flame possesses the properties of Aurum bar its weight and soul-trapping capability. This is applicable to other ST approved materials, excluding that of Thanhium.

• Furious Flame necessitates that an individual seeking to resummon the fire kneel and remain immobile. This is to say that, while resummoning, the Templar cannot be in motion. This may also be performed to imbue a second weapon (in the case of Dual Wielding NOT Shields) with Furious Flame.

• In the event that a Templar is disarmed amidst combat, the further ability "Bound Armament" will ensure that Furious Flame remains active. Should a Templar in any way switch for another weapon or willfully disarm themselves, Furious Flame will deactivate.

• Combative Voidal Spells (including barriers) which make contact with Furious Flame will deactivate Furious Flame for a total of [3] Emotes before reactivating. Too would proximity to Voidal Tears or Hollows deactivate Furious Flame for the entirety of the duration that a Templar remains within its effective radius.

• In comparison to other spells which make use of the White Flame as a tell (i.e. Bulwark or Vigorous Blow), Furious Flame will appear duller in luminescence.

• The pain rendered by Furious Flame's Aurum and Soul-Searing effects apply only when wounds are administered; reaction from the pain may not be used to metagame a Dark CA (or otherwise) given that a Templar is cutting into a target.

• While connected to other magics, this Passive Ability may not be invoked due to the active channeling of Deific Mana.

 

 

 

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[T3] BOUND ARMAMENT - ACTIVE

A Templar’s weapon is their most trusted companion. Though a Templar may hold dear their comrades and battle-brothers, their favored instrument of war becomes a true extension of their being. Parting with one’s armaments is a grave dishonor, and to surrender them to another is tantamount to death. Thus, a Templar may recall to their hand any weapon enwreathed with Furious Flame.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Bound Armament requires [2] Emotes to cast: The First requires the Templar to focus upon the lost weapon - white wisps stretching as a tether, and the Second to pull the weapon back into the Templar’s hand.  This spell may be cast a maximum of ONCE per combat scenario and can only affect a weapon enwreathed with “Furious Flame”.

 

The range of Bound Armament is a maximum of [8] Blocks. It is noted that should the instrument be fixed within the flesh of another, the ground, etcetera, a Third emote must be performed to wrench it free. 

 

REDLINES:

• Bound Armament has a range of [8] Blocks.

• Bound Armament affects ONLY the weapon that has enwreathed with the spell “Furious Flame”.

• The Bound Armament, when recalled, cannot be pulled from another’s grasp.

• The Bound Armament, when recalled, cannot slip through iron bars, cracks in doors or other similar small gaps in blocks.

• The Bound Armament, when recalled, must be within line of sight. This said, should someone step in front of the weapon as it is in motion of being recalled, it will merely arc around them and return to the Templar’s hand.

 

 

 

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[T3] BOUND ARMAMENT - ACTIVE

A Templar’s weapon is their most trusted companion. Though a Templar may hold dear their comrades and battle-brothers, their favored instrument of war becomes a true extension of their being. Parting with one’s armaments is a grave dishonor, and to surrender them to another is tantamount to death. Thus, a Templar may recall to their hand any weapon enwreathed with Furious Flame.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Bound Armament requires [2] Emotes to cast: The First requires the Templar to focus upon the lost weapon - white wisps stretching as a tether, and the Second to pull the weapon back into the Templar’s hand.  This spell may be cast a maximum of ONCE per combat scenario and can only affect a weapon enwreathed with “Furious Flame”.

 

The range of Bound Armament is a maximum of [16] Blocks. It is noted that should the instrument be fixed within the flesh of another, the ground, etcetera, a Third emote must be performed to wrench it free. 

 

REDLINES:

• Bound Armament has a range of [16] Blocks.

• Bound Armament affects ONLY the weapon that has enwreathed with the spell “Furious Flame”.

• The Bound Armament, when recalled, cannot be pulled from another’s grasp.

• The Bound Armament, when recalled, cannot slip through iron bars, cracks in doors or other similar small gaps in blocks.

• The Bound Armament, when recalled, must be within line of sight. This said, should someone step in front of the weapon as it is in motion of being recalled, it will merely arc around them and return to the Templar’s hand.

 

 

 

Reasoning: The barring of Templars from throwing their weapons willingly is incredibly silly. The reality of this spell is that it is downright BAD without the ability to throw your weapon. Why would a templar spend two emotes recalling their weapon and risk dying, when they could just take out their other weapon- going against the very essence of this magic? This change means that a Templar is able to reuse their javelin every four emotes, which is twice as bad as just having more than one javelin. The main utility this would provide is to use the Templar's own personal weapon (ST mat let's be real) as a throwing weapon, which was the original utility.

 

DAUNTLESS CHARGE

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[T4] DAUNTLESS CHARGE - ACTIVE

In the course of battle, a Templar may deem it necessary to charge upon cravenly or fleeing opponents. A Templar may thus swell with their flaming courage, and propel themself forth with the fury of Malchediael.
 

 

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MECHANICS:
This ability requires [3] emotes to cast: The First requires a Templar to draw upon their courageous aura while focusing upon a single target as Holy White Flame gathers under their feet, the Second to completely envelop their bodies with their Holy White Flame, and a Third to charge and slam unto an opponent, resulting in their fiery maelstrom to disperse upon contact. 

 

When Dauntless Charge is cast, the Templar may charge down a single target at a range of [10] Blocks. When struck, the concussive force of the charge is comparable to that of a sledgehammer. The maelstrom of White Flame also possesses the properties of "Furious Flame", thereby granting it the debilitating effects of Aurum. 

 

It is noted that, should [1] Emote elapse without delivering the charge, Dauntless Charge will dissipate. This spell may be cast ONCE per combat scenario.

REDLINES:

• This spell has [1] charge per combat encounter.

• A Templar may not cancel their charge after the second emote has passed and will not be able to cast another Dauntless Charge unless under effect by the Valiant Banner.

• A Templar may strike with their weapon at the completion of the charge to focus the concussive nature of their attack into a single strike. This said, they may also opt to simply shoulder bash.

• When enveloped with their Courageous Aura [2nd emote], the Templar's vision will be considerably reduced, resulting in a Templar only being able to see rough shapes.

• When charging their spell, a Templar may move [3] Blocks per turn until cast. This enables a Templar to move a grand total of [16] Blocks over the course of [3] Emotes.

• Dauntless Charge's concussive force will not stack with the material of a weapon used, nor will it result in a cutting-like effect. This is to say that the damage delivered by the Charge will always remain concussive in nature.

• Dauntless Charge has to go over solid ground and the enemy must be mechanically accessible.

• Should a Templar slam into anything that would be able to resist a hefty sledgehammer swing like in Dauntless Charge, they would get bruised and it would count as [1] minor wound for the Touch of Jophiael.

 

 

 

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[T4] DAUNTLESS CHARGE - ACTIVE

In the Beginning of Battle, a Templar may deem it necessary to charge upon the forces which they attack. A Templar may thus swell their horse with their flaming courage, and propel themselves forth with a lance wrought of the fury of Malchediael around their bound armament.

 

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MECHANICS:
This ability requires [3] emotes to cast: The First requires a Templar to draw upon their courageous aura while focusing upon a single target as Holy White Flame gathers under their horse's hooves as the horse begins to pick up speed, the Second to completely envelop their bodies with their Holy White Flame and conjure a pointed lance which protrudes from their weapon which is affected by Furious Flame, and a Third to charge and slam unto an opponent with their lance, resulting in their fiery attack to disperse upon contact. 

 

When Dauntless Charge is cast, the Templar may charge down a single target at a range of [12] Blocks. When struck, the piercing force of the lance charge is comparable to that of an arbalest/crank crossbow. This is to say that the lance will pierce heavy armor. The charge of White Flame also possesses the properties of "Furious Flame", thereby granting it the debilitating effects of Aurum. 

 

It is noted that, should [1] Emote elapse without delivering the charge, Dauntless Charge will dissipate. This spell may be cast ONCE per combat scenario.

REDLINES:

• This spell has [1] charge per combat encounter.

• The attack of Dauntless Charge has the equivalent force of a crank crossbow or longbow, which means it is able to pierce heavy armor.

• Dauntless Charge requires the first TWO of its emotes to pass the required [4] blocks to pick up appropriate speed for the horse to work. This is to say, the Templar needs to travel at least [8] blocks before striking an opponent with the force of the spell.

• A Templar may not cancel their charge after the second emote has passed and will not be able to cast another Dauntless Charge unless under effect by the Valiant Banner.

• When enveloped with their Courageous Aura [2nd emote], the Templar's vision will be considerably reduced, resulting in a Templar only being able to see rough shapes.

• When charging their spell, a Templar may move [4] Blocks with their horse per turn until cast. This enables a Templar to move a grand total of [20] Blocks over the course of [3] Emotes.

• Dauntless Charge's piercing force will not stack with the material of a weapon used. The spell's effect will always have the piercing effect of a lance instead of cutting or concussive.

• Upon the third and final emote of Dauntless Charge, the Templar's horse may not be steered left or right, it will always go straight. This is to say that this spell may still be dodged by moving out of the way or behind effective objects, such as a wall or tree.

• Dauntless Charge has to go over solid ground and the enemy must be mechanically accessible.

 

 

 

 

Reasoning: Dauntless Charge is a spell that has no clear identity. It was first written and submitted by xMuted to be a chasing tool, but the end result was a gutted version of that, which is a poor version of its intended use. This rework of the spell shifts its meaning from a chasing tool to be insead an engaging tool. This rework also shines more light on the horse-theme of Malchediael, which is his symbol animal.

 

VIGOROUS BLOW

 

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[T5] VIGOROUS BLOW - ACTIVE

The ultimate display of martial prowess, Vigorous blow enables a Templar to discharge their  courageous aura as a streak of glorious, holy flame. Ushered from the edge of a Templar’s weapon when swung, this wave of holy wrath is capable of delivering the sharp cut of blade coupled with the force of a heavy hammer. Too is the streak wide enough to engage up to three targets at once, provided that they stand beside one another.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Vigorous Blow requires [3] Emotes to cast: The First requires a Templar to focus and draw upon their courageous aura, the Second to swirl an ever brighter white flame about their weapon, and the Third to release it towards their target. Were Vigorous Blow to land true, it would strike with the force of a heavy hammer and possess the cutting edge of a standard blade. 

 

When the Vigorous Blow is cast, the resulting “wave” would travel a maximum distance of [4] blocks and possess a width of [3] blocks. Too would this wave possess Aurum properties if rendered by a weapon wreathed with Furious Flame. This projected wave is capable of damaging a maximum of three targets and obstructions (including meat shields) may be used to ensure that only a single target is hit, if not dodged.

 

It is noted that, should [2] Emotes elapse without delivering an attack upon charging, Vigorous Blow will dissipate.  This spell may be cast a maximum of TWICE per combat scenario.

 

REDLINES

• Vigorous Blow’s strength is comparable to that of a Heavy Hammer, with a cutting edge comparable to that of a standard blade. This does NOT grant the Templar themself additional muscle, power, etcetera.

• Vigorous Blow’s strength will NOT stack upon other strength modifiers, such as a Tawkin Enhanced Orc. It will always remain akin to a Heavy-Hammer.

• Vigorous Blow’s cutting ability will NOT stack with the materials of weapons, such as Carbarum. It will always remain akin to a standard blade.

• Vigorous Blow can be deflected through adequate parrying or blocking, albeit at the risk of an opponent damaging their weapon.

• Vigorous Blow, when cast, reduces the kinetic force of the Templar’s swung weapon to zero. This is to say that a Templar cannot combo their attacks on a single target.

• Vigorous Blow inhibits movement by half once charged [2 Blocks at maximum].

 

 

 

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[T5] VIGOROUS BLOW - ACTIVE

The ultimate display of martial prowess, Vigorous blow enables a Templar to discharge their  courageous aura as a streak of glorious, holy flame. Ushered from the edge of a Templar’s weapon when swung, this wave of holy wrath is capable of delivering the sharp cut of blade coupled with the force of a heavy hammer. Too is the streak wide enough to engage up to three targets at once, provided that they stand beside one another.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

The Templar is able to do a separate action while charging this spell. This means a Templar, while charging Vigorous Blow, is able to split their focus to combat. The Templar is unable to do so as they cast Vigorous Blow.

 

Vigorous Blow requires [3] Emotes to cast: The First requires a Templar to focus and draw upon their courageous aura, the Second to swirl an ever brighter white flame about their weapon, and the Third to release it towards their target. Were Vigorous Blow to land true, it would strike with the force of a heavy hammer and possess the cutting edge of a standard blade. 

 

When the Vigorous Blow is cast, the resulting “wave” would travel a maximum distance of [3] blocks and possess a width of [2] blocks. Too would this wave possess Aurum properties if rendered by a weapon wreathed with Furious Flame. This projected wave is capable of damaging a maximum of three targets and obstructions (including meat shields) may be used to ensure that only a single target is hit, if not dodged.

 

It is noted that, should [2] Emotes elapse without delivering an attack upon charging, Vigorous Blow will dissipate.  This spell may be cast a maximum of TWICE per combat scenario.

 

REDLINES

• Vigorous Blow’s strength is comparable to that of a Heavy Hammer, with a cutting edge comparable to that of a standard blade. This does NOT grant the Templar themself additional muscle, power, etcetera.

• Vigorous Blow’s strength will NOT stack upon other strength modifiers, such as a Tawkin Enhanced Orc. It will always remain akin to a Heavy-Hammer.

• Vigorous Blow’s cutting ability will NOT stack with the materials of weapons, such as Carbarum. It will always remain akin to a standard blade.

• Vigorous Blow can be deflected through adequate parrying or blocking, albeit at the risk of an opponent damaging their weapon.

• Vigorous Blow, when cast, reduces the kinetic force of the Templar’s swung weapon to zero. This is to say that a Templar cannot combo their attacks on a single target.

• Vigorous Blow inhibits movement by half once charged [2 Blocks at maximum].

 

 

 

Reasoning: Vigorous Blow is the bread & butter damage-type spell of the magic, which rarely gets used and feels unrewarding. 9 times out of 10, it's simply better to just walk over and hit someone for 3 emotes instead of charging a spell to do the equivalent of one swing. This change, effectively, means that should a Templar go without being disconnected for the charging of this spell (for reasons such as being wounded or breaking their focus), their third attack will be stronger, while your opponent will still be able to defend themselves from it.

 

BLESSED BANNER: RADIANT BANNER

 

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[T5] BLESSED BANNER: RADIANT BANNER

The Radiant Banner is most often wielded by Templars who wish to delve into the darkest of dungeons and the deepest of depths. The Radiant Banner thus proves its utility by illuminating the immediate area of a Templar and their allies, as well as warding away dark obscurants a single time.

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Radiant Banner requires [2] Emotes to cast: The First requires a Templar to raise the Blessed Banner into the air, and the Second to recite a litany pertaining towards light. 

 

Upon activation, an unobtrusive border of white flame would range out in [5] Block radius from the Radiant Banner. Within that [5] Block Radius, the area becomes brightly illuminated until the end of the RP scenario. Further, Radiant Banner is capable of clearing dark hazes, such as Deadbreath, for a total of [5] emotes a single time per combat encounter. This enchantment may be cast a maximum of ONCE per combat scenario.

 

REDLINES:

• All Redlines pertaining to “Blessed Banners” apply.

• The Radiant Banner cannot be used to blind others.

• The Radiant Banner can be used, at maximum, a single time to ward away Dark Hazes originating from Dark Magic, such as Deadbreath. This ability does not apply to Smoke Whispers or Voidal Obscurants.

 

 

 

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[T5] BLESSED BANNER: RADIANT BANNER

The Radiant Banner is most often wielded by Templars who wish to delve into the darkest of dungeons and the deepest of depths. The Radiant Banner thus proves its utility by illuminating the immediate area of a Templar and their allies, as well as warding away dark obscurants a single time.

 

 

 

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MECHANICS:

Radiant Banner requires [2] Emotes to cast: The First requires a Templar to raise the Blessed Banner into the air, and the Second to recite a litany pertaining towards light. 

 

Upon activation, an unobtrusive border of white flame would range out in [6] Block radius from the Radiant Banner. Within that [6] Block Radius, the area becomes brightly illuminated until the end of the RP scenario. Further, Radiant Banner is capable of clearing hazes from Dark Magic, such as Deadbreath, permanently. This enchantment may be cast a maximum of ONCE per combat scenario.

 

REDLINES:

• All Redlines pertaining to “Blessed Banners” apply.

• The Radiant Banner cannot be used to blind others.

• The Radiant Banner can be used, at maximum, a single time to ward away Dark Hazes originating from Dark Magic, such as Deadbreath. This ability does not apply to Alchemical or Voidal Obscurants.

 

 

Reasoning: Least used and the worst banner needs a little love. With the nerf of Fervent Flare against Deadbreath, this banner should serve to be an upgrade for it.

Edited May 24 by HugoAntero
changes were made to be bolded & pretty pink :)

[Phantuhm 193]

I think making changes to templar is fine but I'm gonna take this chance to address my confusion at why there is literally no drawback afaik (I'm a necro so correct me if I'm wrong ) to learning templar, but like why wouldn't someone learn templar if they are a guard only upsides.

[Metamancy 1759]

1 minute ago, Phantuhm said:

I think making changes to templar is fine but I'm gonna take this chance to address my confusion at why there is literally no drawback afaik (I'm a necro so correct me if I'm wrong ) to learning templar, but like why wouldn't someone learn templar if they are a guard only upsides.

people say this all the time, i think being a murder hobo that feels immense shame when someone says "i double dare you to jump off a cliff" is a pretty big drawback

[King_Kunuk 3022]

I think a more potent change to templarism would be to give them combative casting similar to scions rather then a change directly to the spells. Other brawler style magics and creatures as well should have something like that tbh

[Phantuhm 193]

10 minutes ago, Metamancy said:

people say this all the time, i think being a murder hobo that feels immense shame when someone says "i double dare you to jump off a cliff" is a pretty big drawback

If people say this all the time maybe people are not rping it's effect to a noticeable degree then or maybe its just a bad drawback. I just checked the redline and it says may feel shame which means the players can choose whether it happens or not and I doubt most characters RP themselves being shameful. So basically the drawback is if you want it or not.

[Baccaaa 490]

@Phantuhmthe drawback is you are in a list once you go templar. Heh

[DISCOLIQUID 2701]

22 minutes ago, Metamancy said:

people say this all the time, i think being a murder hobo that feels immense shame when someone says "i double dare you to jump off a cliff" is a pretty big drawback

 

This is often loopholed, as I've heard, by the Templar TA "challenging" their student to always resist stupid challenges. That way, they never have to feel any shame. 

 

Also, nearly every single magic has at least one permanent, debilitating detrimental mental effect from Voidstalker narcissism to Seer delusion to Naztherak malice to Azdrazi greed to Blood Magic insanity to Druid technophobia. 

 

The fact that Templars can cleanse their mental debuff is actually a buff compared to every other magic, on top of the fact that they are fear-immune, allowed to wear full plate and cast, come built in with a weapon-based counter to nearly everything, and their previous "weakness" is now a legal excuse to powergame. 

 

Templars are just Knight Plus. 

[Monty Cobra 921]

29 minutes ago, Phantuhm said:

If people say this all the time maybe people are not rping it's effect to a noticeable degree then or maybe its just a bad drawback. I just checked the redline and it says may feel shame which means the players can choose whether it happens or not and I doubt most characters RP themselves being shameful. So basically the drawback is if you want it or not.

 

As a Templar I think the solution for this is to just ammend that redline to change the verbage so that it is not optional. There's no reason it should be optional, and Templars shouldn't be allowed to loophole around this or other rules of the magic.

[SaintYink 156]

1 minute ago, Monty Cobra said:

 

As a Templar I think the solution for this is to just ammend that redline to change the verbage so that it is not optional. There's no reason it should be optional, and Templars shouldn't be allowed to loophole around this or other rules of the magic.

I personally view it as powergaming to NOT rp the shame and or turn down challenges, I second this as a Templar player 

[PrimnyaQuorum 3999]

Waiter, waiter! My steak is too juicy! My lobster too fat!

 

Templars and azdrazi are (so far) the only two magics to be pocketed in some manner by LT via “winning” an eventline they were always going to win (Templars were getting a buff either way as was explained post event). These are all buffs with no drawbacks to a magic that is notoriously full of loopholers and powergamers (furious flame testing, challenge avoiding, tatsuwainian blood rituals, etc) that have resulted less in enforcement and more in amendments to prevent and buff because a majority of the Templars doing these behaviors are ST or in closely with ST (a reminder the bird v Lenny dc fight was, per Zhuilk, a case of horrific behavior on the challenger side against bird but was still permitted to stand anyway).

 

Templars are to deity what void is to magic in general. What struggles have Templars had that requires these? Kinda uncourageous 

[Borin 7645]

templarism is no longer a canonist aligned magic, too many gremlins. its so over.

[MonteGiant 891]

33 minutes ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

tatsuwainian blood rituals

It is Tawantinsuyin. 

 

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[Wizry 1218]

i don't like that dauntless charge is changed to a horse, admittedly I've just used it twice in separate days. I think my issue with dauntless charge is that it's just not doing what it supposes to do - chase down people and give you a chance to get up & personal.

 

Mages, for example, can just brisk-step away; I can get easily dodged all the time by people who are just out in the open.

It's not a fun spell, it's really more for just travelling at this point instead of actually hitting **** all.

If you want more details, feel free to ask on this forum - I have a lot of contentions with that particular spell. 

Edited May 23 by Wizry

[PrimnyaQuorum 3999]

1 hour ago, MonteGiant said:

It is Tawantinsuyin. 

 

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[Islamadon 9158]

4 hours ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

Waiter, waiter! My steak is too juicy! My lobster too fat!

 

Templars and azdrazi are (so far) the only two magics to be pocketed in some manner by LT via “winning” an eventline they were always going to win (Templars were getting a buff either way as was explained post event). These are all buffs with no drawbacks to a magic that is notoriously full of loopholers and powergamers (furious flame testing, challenge avoiding, tatsuwainian blood rituals, etc) that have resulted less in enforcement and more in amendments to prevent and buff because a majority of the Templars doing these behaviors are ST or in closely with ST (a reminder the bird v Lenny dc fight was, per Zhuilk, a case of horrific behavior on the challenger side against bird but was still permitted to stand anyway).

 

Templars are to deity what void is to magic in general. What struggles have Templars had that requires these? Kinda uncourageous 

interesting how at the time the lenny crowd was very upset with me ooc for defending bird5k's right to use hidden animii blades, make infinite blocks and not killing him from animii bleedout etc. @The Tough Guy got a spike in powerlevel here