WAR!!!

[Samson Option 9652]

(( Gaius, please do not make this your battle, or act like a victim in this incident, this war has mainly nothing to do with the humans. This war was pre-planned by me and Mogroka in teamspeak and we chose a battlefield in which we will arrange this fight, that battlefield will be kept secretive from other nations E.G Teutonic order and humans and elves so no one can get involved UNLESS WE ARE OUTNUMBERED then each nation will call upon allies. Also i dont see how your post is relevant to this one, this post is just to say that we are having a war and to inform our Dwarves, this is necessary as the RP tensions within the Orc's and Dwarves have increased rapidly and frequent attacks have increased. Me and Mogroka also settled we will have battlefield war game battles every week, maybe a new rule each week E.G one week no allies 2nd week allies? so yeah, i really do not see how the Teutonic Order are once again being the victims. Also you are mentioning the incidents with the Undead and Enor, therefore not involved with us Dwarves as we were their as a third wheel re-paying the Humans for them helping us when the Orc's attacked. Also you state you won that war when you clearly did not as GM's Bhorner stated in the teamspeak chat " If you do not leave i will start banning " as the Orc's were getting annoyed because their leader wasn't online which is very hypocritical as we could have said the same when they attacked us at Kal'Urguan and we dominated them, also Craotor the Dominus agree's on our victory and said in TS " Yeah you did win to be fair " so we won that battle and left due to the GM's forcing us to, also we defended Kal'Urguan fully and won and we Defended Galahar fully so therefore you won non of the battles or assisted in winning any, once again half of your post isn't even relevant to this, the Lodrick and Enor things.. they are not relevant to this post nor with this RP that is something completely different so therefore not involved with us.

- Ali ))

(If you think you just made a snide comment, you pain me by forgetting that this thread went downhill and became about the past events. Sorry for giving a coherent and intelligent detail of what my group did for those confused, my deepest apologies. Might I also add that we got permission by GoldenGFX to go after Galahar :D, which GM did you talk to to go to Sanjezal? Oh that is right, it earnestly doesnt matter tapping on every fella's shoulder. This was one continuous Roleplay.)

(As far as staying out of your planned event, I agree so long as it is Dwarves vs. Orcs :) )

[nickdabeast135 107]

Aye I was there. The orcs attacked first.

[Arteh 1837]

(If you think you just made a snide comment, you pain me by forgetting that this thread went downhill and became about the past events. Sorry for giving a coherent and intelligent detail of what my group did for those confused, my deepest apologies. Might I also add that we got permission by GoldenGFX to go after Galahar :D, which GM did you talk to to go to Sanjezal? Oh that is right, it earnestly doesnt matter tapping on every fella's shoulder. This was one continuous Roleplay.)

(As far as staying out of your planned event, I agree so long as it is Dwarves vs. Orcs :) )

(( So we need to ask a GM to defend ourselves and our allies? who did the Orc's ask before they attacked Kal'Urguan.. no one ;) ))

[Charles_Grimlie 1072]

Ah cannae wait ta get a new carpet fer me 'ome, along wit sum new shingles fer te ruf!

[Samson Option 9652]

(( So we need to ask a GM to defend ourselves and our allies? who did the Orc's ask before they attacked Kal'Urguan.. no one ;) ))

(That is my point, whoever went to a GM raging is ridiculous, none of my crew nor the Orcs went to a GM, that is why Im confused.)

[Blawharag 277]

((As the undead proved countless times no GM is needed for a simple battle or "Scare Tactics" as the Undead loved to put it. It does however reflect poorly when I say "Hey the attack on Kal'Urguan failed why not attack Ahkazar?" am told "No the humans told me OOC they don't want Ahkazar attacked" and then we have the humans and dwarves ban together a joint attack on Sanjezal.))

[TsTempaaah 0]

guys i will elp as much as i can and i will do my best keep us updated

[Zeddicus Fyren 133]

I will try my best to be there, if it's at the Orc homebase, i will probably be there. I might be travelling ((working)). I am a Warlord, so i must be there!

[Zezimus 1523]

((As the undead proved countless times no GM is needed for a simple battle or "Scare Tactics" as the Undead loved to put it. It does however reflect poorly when I say "Hey the attack on Kal'Urguan failed why not attack Ahkazar?" am told "No the humans told me OOC they don't want Ahkazar attacked" and then we have the humans and dwarves ban together a joint attack on Sanjezal.))

((None of the Dwarves were aware that you'd even asked to attack Al'Khazar, we just attacked Krugmar because you'd attacked both Kal'Urguan and Galahar.))

[Austin 697]

((You see the thing is the orcs need some sort of warning for when a war is going to happen becuase the warnation is the smallest nation in aegis holding roughly 15-20 active orcs (By active I mean online for atleast 9 hours a week). So really how is it fair for 20 dwarves to charge the orcish capital when our leader's arent on and only around 8 people are present in krugmar. It's not our fault the orcs have a lack of players and also the one yesterday Mogroka didn't die and wouldn't it be a victory for the orcs becuase you were trying to take over sanjezal and didn't succeed in doing so. I know you may also not agree with it but you probably should let the GM's know when a battle is going to happen just so we can have someone moderating it becuase from what I heard at one of the battles some fool thought it was okay to flyhack onto the walls and killed 2 orcs that is what I suspect would be one of the biggest reasons a GM should be present becuase they are Game Moderators, so shouldn't they moderate big PVP events like this. However yesterday was freaking awesome and a fun battle and I'm pretty sure were all happy with the fact that Arteh and Mogroka planning these things. But really the war started off something stupid like some dwarves walking up to our gates which is essentially what started it. Hopefully this war will end on good terms OOCly at least ;P!))

Edit:((Also I think it would be kinda cool if we took a battle in the verge, which almost happened :)!))

[Charles_Grimlie 1072]

((That was some good fun, but the dwarves do need some better orginization.))

[Hiebe 2493]

If orcs dont have a lot of warriors why.start a war.

[Blawharag 277]

If orcs dont have a lot of warriors why.start a war.

I assume you are current with lore, so I don't need to tell you that Dwarves are short and stunted because Ibleez cursed them with that ugliness and wicked greed, while he cursed the Orcs with bloodlust and a war-prone culture. Basically the argument you just made was "Your demographic does not fit your actions, so stop acting that way." Lets turn the tables and talk about the Dwarves for a moment:

Lets say that all those applying to roleplay as pretty elves (I say elves because believe me, as a member of the app team there are a LOT of pretty elf applicants) are told they must keep their roleplay, but be dwarves instead. So the dwarf population suddenly becomes very, very inflated by a swath of pretty-princesses and comely princes. Suddenly, the dwarf lore does not fit their demographic. Does this mean all dwarves should stop RPing that they are ugly and greedy?

Beyond even that, if you REALLY want to go into lore, Orcs are technically the most brutal and strong fighters in Aegis. They are supposed to have a lower population than the other races, but each individual is stronger than any individual of another race (speaking on general terms, of course there can be case by case exceptions). So essential Orcs have half the population, but are twice as strong making it balanced. Our population reflects the server lore, but not our race. That does not mean we should buff Orcs (especially with them being prone to challenge others to duels to resolve their Criminal Justice issues. It would be stupidly unfair to other races). I am however saying that because we are not the stronger race we should be lore wise, but are the diminished race we should be lore wise, that there should be some courteous consideration and give the Orcs ample time to prepare for a fight.

We shouldn't gimp our RP and live boring lives because our population is low, but we shouldn't be forced into a loss at every battle just because one surprise attack can catch us while we have 3 Orcs online, all of whom may be scattered across the map.

[Destroyer_Bravo 1054]

((An Ascended came up to me and said "No more war". So, herp-a-derp, no war. And, the Ascended-in-question is Arcadius (Former Sage). Bigger herp-a-derp.))

[trotski24 24]

You fools! The undead attack and we bicker amongst ourselves? At the very time we need to unite you fight, I my self do not particularly like the orcs but this..this is a folly we must destroy the undead! Please I ask this of you all.