Major VA changes

[Urasept 1361]

Okay so the few VAT that were on for this discussion have decided some big changes. We have come to an agreement that we are aiming for more enjoyable RP situations. We are trying to make things less restricted for the general player base. Thus we have decided to change a big portion of the VA itself. We wish to make things easier for everyone, much less restricted, to help RP flow without everyone always asking if someone has a VA.

This being said this is the evil list, the *'s mean the references needed, as they have meant this before.

1a thievery / cheating - Self explanatory. Cheating must not abuse game mechanics, you may not lie or cheat out of character.

****1b lock-picking / breaking & entering / jail-breaking - Lock-picking is done, /modreq, proper RP of lock-picking, and a successful roll of over 15 with a /roll 20. The GM will then poke in the chest and take some things and throw them to you. (Sidenote - GM's may throw in a bit of rp at you so provide a conflict of sorts, whether it be RP'ing as guards / animals. Also keep in mind it is encouraged to lockpick in a building that the owner is online, to give a chance of getting caught.)

**2a .Murder Type A - Assassinations, Murdering when unprovoked. (Side note - you do not need a VA to hire an Assassin)

***2b Murder Type B - Killing for pleasure, cannibalism, twisted ways of killing (weird fetishes, poison)

****2c Torture, Slaving - (Side note - You do not need 2c to own or purchase a slave. You do need it however to break or sell.)

3 Unholy Worship / Religous Zealotry - Worshiping in a way that may be deemed unholy or as zealotry. This covers Sacrificing or murdering in the name of your deity (Sidenote - You do not need this to worship Iblees, but you do if your worship pushes you to do "villainous" activity)

4a Chaos / Deception / Conning - Purposefully creating chaos such as starting riots, rebellions, violent protests.(Sidenote - you can attend and participate in riots/rebellions/violent protests it is merely up to the lead instigator(s) to have a VA for this)

4b Corruption - Political corruption, or otherwise enticing corruption via bribes or other means.(Sidenote- you do not need a VA to accept bribes, but you do need one to do the bribing)

*****5 Psychopathy - Insanity, Split Personalities, Uncontrollable Actions (Side note - This means if you have a disorder that makes you act in a villainous way. Like say your calm one moment, and your disorder flairs up and you all of a sudden want to kill the closest person to you.)

Please note evils:

1a

3

4ab

And note how they do not have *'s at all. You may be confused and think this is a typo. But I assure you it is no typo. Evils 1a, 3, 4ab no longer need any references. Nor do they need a VA at all anymore. You may still make an app for them, they are still selectable evils. And if an app comes through with just those, it will pretty much be a free ride through. But if you make a VA for say evils 1ab, 2ab 3, 4. The evils 1a, 3, and 4 will not play any factor in making your VA any harder to get. Thus meaning it should be easier overall for people to get VA's to go through.

I will still say I myself prefer a va be made for 1a, 3, 4ab. Merely for documentation purposes though. So I will be making a brief app for minor evils. I will say the term app very lightly as it will not be anything of substantial size at all.

Minor Evils App. (Should be labeled "____'s Minor Evils App")

MCname-

RP Name-

Race-

Minor Evils-

Character Alignment-

Link to any accepted apps for THIS character-

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Subtle changes - You no longer need a VA to beat a slave, but you still need one to break, sell, or torture them. Beating a slave back in line is not torturous, it is basic nature of slavery.

This will be effective immediately.

I've explain this to many people, and this helped them understand:

Everyone basically gets free evils 1a, 3, and 4ab. You need to make a Minor Evils App so we can document what evils you are using.

[paladist 45]

Seriously? No V.A. for stealing? Let's all say hello to the billions of new bandits to come.

[Ever 2648]

Seriously? No V.A. for stealing? Let's all say hello to the billions of new bandits to come.

Sounds good to me. Having an active guard force will actually mean something now.

[Supremacy 3361]

As far as I can see 4b should not be a free VA. It means anyone can corrupt that and perhaps 1a should be limited unless you have a VA for it.

VAs were fine before, I don't understand why they need to be changed again that and I would have highly recommended a poll or something asking the player base before such a large change was made again.

[Drelik 865]

Us real bandits going to have to step it up now!

[Smithers 388]

I don't quite understand. Why are VAs being changed so much? They worked before and there were no complaints. It allowed the good, dedicated roleplayers to do what they do best and kept the bad ones out. I can't see any good coming from this. The only thing that I forsee in the future is the amount of play-to-win players increasing exponentially. Why change a system that worked?

[Vekrus 396]

Alright, well I guess most chests are locked now anyway so it should be fine.

[Cyndikate 2303]

I love these changes.

Azula here I come.

[SparehoeCakes 547]

With recent discussion, the VAT has decided to let the world of LOTC be a bit more freer. We figured the community would be grateful for the freedom we are giving them, so we decided against asking. It seems we were incorrect.

[ek_knight 21]

So to clarify, for the evils 1a, 43 and 4a you need only to fill out one of the minor evil applications?

[SparehoeCakes 547]

So to clarify, for the evils 1a, 43 and 4a you need only to fill out one of the minor evil applications?

For evils 1a, 3, 4ab, you only need a Minor Evil App.

[Smithers 388]

With recent discussion, the VAT has decided to let the world of LOTC be a bit more freer. We figured the community would be grateful for the freedom we are giving them, so we decided against asking. It seems we were incorrect.

We respect the VAT and hold them all in the highest regard. However, as said before this is a /major/ change. While you made a good call making corruption, etc. not require a VA, thievery should always need one. There are, sadly, just too many play-to-win players on LotC. I've encountered a number of them and the only thing that has kept all of this at bay is the VA process. The VA process enabled the VAT to recognize and halt such players in their tracks before any damage could be done. This, however, opens thievery up to all players. Regardless of the rules, without a VA for thievery, etc. it will be impossible for GMs to tell whether or not players are sticking to their characters whilst engaging in such criminal activity. I forsee only positive things and enriched roleplay coming from the other changes you all made. However, I see only negative things, OOC grief, etc. with the removal of recommendations and the like for thievery. Please, do rethink your decision. Keep the corruption, etc. VA-less and keep thievery strictly regulated. Thievery should not be considered a minor evil. On the contrary, it should be considered one of the major ones as it is the one most prone to abuse.

[mr.gerp 21]

Awesome. I can now have morally-gray characters without a VA.

[meg 1994]

I like it, but remember you can steal without a VA, but you cannot lockpick without one, nor can you break into someone's home. This would be used for things like an urchin stealing an apple from a market stall, a con artist conning someone. Although I somewhat think that 4a should require a VA. Other than that, it's an amazing idea! And instead of complaining, let us be thankful and use this gift wisely, right?

Edit, also! If someone makes a minor va for 3 they would still require 2a to sacrafice someone, correct?

[Cyndikate 2303]

I'm confused. So do we need a VA for 1 3 4ab or not?