Recent Staff Promotions

[Esterlen 4499]

[Hawke 19]

Grats To all!

[Ned Lud 1260]

Y'all have heard me ***** time and time again. But here's the deal.

None of us are perfect. We disagree. We make bad choices. We handle things poorly. It happens.

I've voiced my opinions and frustrations with our staff on nearly every thread that's been made regarding the issue. I have gripes and nits to pick and there is room for improvement. But when the **** hits the fan, our staff gets my respect. I like Mogroka, Respiren and Dusk, perhaps three of the most controversial members of our staff. I like them, I find them approachable and they've never done me wrong. Native's a good man and I trust who he picks for his team. I don't always agree with the way situations are handled, but never confuse my criticisms of our staff with hatred or intolerance. These new GMs get my respect as well. I don't need to know who they are or what they've done. Our staff decided that their help was needed and that's good enough for me.

I'll complain at times, but when I'm done complaining I'll shake hands and work with you. All of you. And I'll freely give you all my respect when it's time to settle our **** and move forward.

Some of y'all might consider adopting the same attitude. We can raise our voices, but the staff's decisions are final and we just have to shut our mouth, nod and make do. Our voice has been heard, but now it's time for all of us to just forgive one another, agree to disagree and start talking again.

It is what it is. Show some respect and relax.

Heavy is the chin that wears the beard.

[aokavery 21]

I wub Rhia! Braxis is Braxis. Nothing more need be said, and Congratulations Dusk.

[Esterlen 4499]

This 'admins are always right' attitude is somewhat redundant. One isn't simply disliked by a large portion of the server without basis. Deserved or not is another argument entirely.

There is clearly some reason various members of the server find Dusk unfit to be an admin - the fact there's outrage in the first place shows there's an issue - so instead of claiming that said various members are incorrect and slanderous (And then leaving it at that with no acknowledgement), how about we actually address the problem?

[Ned Lud 1260]

Whether there's basis or not, all of the community's basis, evidence, gripes and even support, everything, has been thoroughly submitted on all of these various issues. The staff has had all of this smeared in their face and blowing out their eardrums for months now, almost non-stop, and they've weighed their options and made their decision. We have to respect that.

We've beaten this dead horses for so long. Some of y'all are like a pack of hyenas, biting at the carcass, lurking along the edges of camp with your eyes glowing in the firelight and refusing to back down. Either accept the fact that there are people in this world that have authority over aspects of your life and will occasionally make decisions that you don't agree with or find somewhere else to play. Admins aren't always right, but admins have to make the decisions and they're not always going to be popular decisions, but they have to be made. We need a decisive staff, for good or ill, not one that will roll over and pee like a puppy every time someone disagrees.

If anyone has some new, marvelous gem of knowledge and wisdom that we haven't been thoroughly exposed to to the point of exhaustion, let's see it. Otherwise, accept their decisions and let's get back to role-playing. There's a lot of work on our plate here. If you're nothing more than bitter and burned out hyena, it's time to walk away before someone grabs the scattergun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVaPb2nVys

[Vekrus 396]

Congrats!

[Alana (Previously Latsi) 136]

After reading through just about every post, there was no way I was just going to sit on the sidelines while others were trying to do what the majority of the community were scared to do. First off, I applaud Goldrim for stepping up and getting so much started. Many voices in the community have spoken things on their mind, some doing it because they have a strong opinion, and some because they realized then agreed with another's.

What I came to say is my two-cents on the current state of LotC. Now, I cannot directly relate to any recent topic or happenings as I have not been a part of the active community, I do have things to share.

First off, all this thread has been is people voicing their opinions, and the ones the 'staff' didn't like were talked down upon. All the staff has done is defended each other from the opinions of the core of the community, the regular players themselves. The staff is seeing themselves as 'lords,' and 'kings,' and even 'queens' of this community. From how I played my role as a GM, it wasn't about that. It was about helping the community in any way they could, not trying to silence them because they feel disrespected. I realize how true it is now, that someone I was talking to said LotC has become a game of titles. If you have a staff title, you feel you are one of the 'big dogs' in the community. That's what the staff teams have become. All of the true-hearted GMs have left or become inactive, or even were removed for voicing their opinion.

Some of my favorite staff members, such as Freya, she loved LotC for what it was and wanted to help it. I'll even use myself, I loved LotC and tried to help it as much as I could. I had tried to do what the community wanted, I pushed Native to start getting 3.0 worked on months before it did, I tried to get staff that the community were unhappy with removed, but things never changed. Its why I left my spot as a GM, as I felt I could no longer help the community in a positive way.

All the GMs who had once felt this way are now gone. LotC is no longer being moderated, it is being controlled. The staff is doing only what they believe is right, and not what the community believes is right. So let this be a shoutout to anyone part of the staff. What is your real opinion? Step back, and instead of thinking about banning people, or defending yourself, think about why you really are a member of the staff. Don't lie to yourself either. Did you do it so you could be a 'lord' of the community, or did you do it to actually help LotC?

Many, not all, but many truthful answers would be for the title. And to the LotC community, a shoutout to all of you. This is your server. You are the core of it. Without you, there is no LotC. This is a fact. That being a fact, if this is your server, shouldn't you have the biggest say in what should be done? Discuss amongst each other. Put those who you believe would really be a help to the server because of their love for it, throw them into the air. Have them be your leaders. Follow them, not the people that can ban you. If you get banned by the people who can, then find a way to speak your mind. If you can't help your community by just being a member of it, then it proves this community is being ruled, not cared for.

I hope this sparks some though. If it throws LotC into turmoil, then those who have the physical power to make change, do it. Otherwise, I hope that this post may show that the 'leaders,' the GMs aren't exactly what you thought them to be.

Good luck LotC community, I'll be checking back here once a day.

~ Latsi

[shiftnative 3103]

I can't help but disagree Latsi, you haven't spoken to staff in quite a long time and you shouldn't base your opinions of them from others.

We have questioned our GM's long enough, and its high-time we support each-other and show the players that we do respect our staff members so that they can work with morale.

I'm not sure which GM's you feel are here for fame or glory, but It would be far more appropriate if you messaged an admin your woes or at the very least written respectfully.

Instead of saying "LoTC is.." or "The GM's are.."

You should say "I believe Lotc is.." or "I believe the GM's are.." because your opinion is your own and it shouldn't be presented as fact.

[BannanaToYou 196]

just thought i'd look here and i saw this thread, LOL

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

Many players have come out about this, it cannot just be an opinion its something bigger than that.

[Alana (Previously Latsi) 136]

I can't help but disagree Latsi, you haven't spoken to staff in quite a long time and you shouldn't base your opinions of them from others.

We have questioned our GM's long enough, and its high-time we support each-other and show the players that we do respect our staff members so that they can work with morale.

I'm not sure which GM's you feel are here for fame or glory, but It would be far more appropriate if you messaged an admin your woes or at the very least written respectfully.

Instead of saying "LoTC is.." or "The GM's are.."

You should say "I believe Lotc is.." or "I believe the GM's are.." because your opinion is your own and it shouldn't be presented as fact.

Though, this is not my own opinion. This is a community opinion. Again, many of the community has posted here with their thoughts, and many people of the community are scared to do it. You are treasuring the few staff that are currently around, and protecting them. Then Goldrim voices his opinion, and you tell him to leave.

I had even made a status at one point and your threatened to ban me for voicing my opinion. You have a glass wall around the GMs, saying that they can moderate with morale in mind, but the only moderation I have seen is helping with ModReqs, and removing certain members of the community who are only causing trouble. Such as pugsy, and also the writers of the ***********ing Guide.

That is alright, I agree with that. But that isn't what moderating is.

Then you say I might message an admin with complaints, but I do not have any myself as I do not consider myself a member of this community anymore. I still love many of the people in the community, and what it once stood for, which is why I say the community should take control.

I didn't mention a single name, (besides Freya) or single out one person in my post, as Its not just one person. I also feel it's wrong to direct hatred towards individuals.

You say I haven't spoken to the staff, but the staff aren't the community. If staff is all that can be talked to, then again, it is being ruled. No matter what, this is LotC, not Lord of the Staff. The community is the largest group of LotC, and without them, there is no LotC.

If you believe that only your staff are to be respected, then shame on you. The community is the one dealing with even more disrespect from Staff, and because they are larger, it seems that it won't matter.

[shiftnative 3103]

I still so no ultimatum stemming from your posts Latsi, what's the solution?

To my knowledge, this mostly stems from dusk's promotion.

Dusk being promoted to an Admin will help me oversee GM's, as-well as training and organizing new GM's and staff. Not dealing with player reations, Like NekoDanie old job.

I didn't tell Goldrim to leave for voicing his opinion, don't turn it around like that. I told Goldrim to leave because of the way he loosely used his words.

I'm not saying this is "Lord Of The Staff" I'm saying that you shouldn't speak so strongly of anothers wishes or goals without giving them a chance to explain themselves. Aka the GM's you've disrespected with, "All of the true-hearted GMs have left or become inactive"

[BannanaToYou 196]

yeah go team

[Alana (Previously Latsi) 136]

I still so no ultimatum stemming from your posts Latsi, what's the solution?

To my knowledge, this mostly stems from dusk's promotion.

Dusk being promoted to an Admin will help me oversee GM's, as-well as training and organizing new GM's and staff. Not dealing with player reations, Like NekoDanie old job.

I didn't tell Goldrim to leave for voicing his opinion, don't turn it around like that. I told Goldrim to leave because of the way he loosely used his words.

I'm not saying this is "Lord Of The Staff" I'm saying that you shouldn't speak so strongly of anothers wishes or goals without giving them a chance to explain themselves. Aka the GM's you've disrespected with, "All of the true-hearted GMs have left or become inactive"

You told Goldrim to leave. After here had a complaint. Sure, its not for voicing his opinion per-say, but its because it was something you didn't want to hear.

And I have not mentioned a single thing about Dusk, or the other people promoted. I have only talked about what the thread in a whole has become. It is people voicing their opinions. While Dusk's promotion may have sparked thoughts, there are tons of things that may have set off people thinking. Sadly, dusk's promotion was the thing it had to be.

I honestly feel bad about that, as I have never had a reason to dislike Dusk, and its terrible that this has to be made on her name.

If you think that I am disrespecting GMs, its just you covering up and shielding them behind a glass wall. I feel disrespected for my you saying I am disrespecting your precious ones.

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To those following this, also be sure to check out my profile as well as Native's, as apparently a side conversation has evolved there too.