Orc Rp Reforms

[Lago 2572]

Maybe an honour code for the orcs?

[Praetor 1550]

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Then why did you say 3-4 pages earlier that you ran from fights?...I don't want to be going in circles, so if you're going to say it's because they were honorless and all that, then you can re-read my previous answers since I'd only be repeating myself.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

Then why did you say 3-4 pages earlier that you ran from fights?...I don't want to be going in circles, so if you're going to say it's because they were honorless and all that, then you can re-read my previous answers since I'd only be repeating myself.

 

I believe I stated in my first post, we run then come back for a fight when its fair. Example two Orcs run to cover then when a group of the army follows us we kill them and keep slowly reducing their numbers.

 

 

Maybe an honour code for the orcs?

I am in favour for an honour code.

[Praetor 1550]

I believe I stated in my first post, we run then come back for a fight when its fair. Example two Orcs run to cover then when a group of the army follows us we kill them and keep slowly reducing their numbers.

 

 

I am in favour for an honour code.

 

Your posts never even mentioned guerilla warfare, simply running.

However, I am content with Arteh taking my own opinion into account and see no need to continue this conversation.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

Your posts never even mentioned guerilla warfare, simply running.

However, I am content with Arteh taking my own opinion into account and see no need to continue this conversation.

 

The new approach we are taking in 3.0 is guerilla warfare. It is well developed so im sure you will be happy with it.

[Kaiser 2347]

Maybe an honour code for the orcs?

 

If I'm not mistaken the orcs already have one?

 

Anyhow, as a quick question, why do people feel the need for whitewash orcs to be allowed in? I thought (If I am correct) that whitewash orcs made the decision of leaving, no?

[Dalek348 1962]

Do you expect the Orcs to think to themself "Look at all these guys, we are outnumbered so lets just be suicidal and run into them." On that specific battle there was roughly 50 Humans, 30 Dwarves, 5 Kha' and 16 Orcs.

 

 

No, I expect an orc to think to himself 'One of us is worth 5 of these weaklings, and their treachery and deceit makes my blood boil so I will uphold my honour and slaughter them all or die trying'. Your interpretation and reaction of the events is geared towards you winning, if you want to be this epic strong unbeatable warrior in a 'fair' (1v1) situation then you should expect to play the same role when you are outnumbered. 

 

In response to the original point of the thread I think orcs transmit their aggression too far into out of character ways. From my external view you are a very unforgiving and private group of people that resent anyone that doesn't conform to your fairly elitist ways. Be more open and liberal and fun and you'll see your numbers increase in no time.

[the GOAT of the craft 606]

I remember in Aegis when Impulse got everyone to pitch in and help build a fort next to the entrance of Krugmarr. It became the base of the army later on, which ties in nicely to what Talf said earlier about every Orc being a warrior. I'm not too sure about what happens at the moment, but trying get the Orcs involved with building their forts and towns could be good. 

 

Another thing was the rebuilding the capital thing that pretty much every Orc was involved in. It gave a sense of belonging and it helped new Orcs/players get involved and meet the others. Maybe rebuilding sectors of a city or a city itself could be good? The clan system was a step in the right direction, but continuing to make the Orc RP easier to integrate into is a step in the right direction.

 

Also recreate Sanhar.

[CloakandDagger 134]

What if you made Orc applications more intensive to ensure quality rp'ers but then you allowed orcs to have a limited amount of evils (that would be necessary to play an orc) from the get go without having to write a VA?

Just a thought...

 

 

Oh i'd also like to say that I have a deep respect for any of the ORC RP'ers you guys are definetly the most unique RP'ers on the server and I loved your capital in Asulon, it was awesome.

[Arteh 1837]

+1 That is a good idea.

[Jarkarll 314]

I suggest you integrate the orcish culture again. When I had left there was no real culture, it had degraded to just PvP and having sex with every female in a 20 mile radius. While I'm on that point, Orcs should be pure. No crossbreeding, this is infact due to the degradation of the Orcish culture. Commonly an orc would look for mates that could be on par with their strength, or power. Keep in mind that feats from an orc don't always have to be "she/he killed this or killed that" there are other feats that would be so commendable they'd be considered strength. However with time it lulled to the point of simply having sex with everything "pretty" or "smooth". Keep in mind that orcs shouldn't  consider curvy and cute looking to be attractive. Ugly is what's pretty to orcs, and being strong is simply an addendum to attraction.

 

Honor is a huge part as well, but everyone else has already stated this before me. 

[lev 627]

That's where I don't agree with you. This isn't a question of brains.

 

Look at the Japanese in WWII, they got into a fight, they were in that fight till they died. Because they were in their own way honorable.

I think the orcs should be the same way with their honor, ready to fight to the death regardless of the honor of the other.

 

Outnumbered doesn't mean an unfair fight, certainly. And if an orc runs everytime he's outnumbered then he isn't really a good orc is he? 

I'd also like to point out thatif you wait for a honorable opponent, honor is relative. And following an Orc's vision of honor they might very well never find one.

 

I admit that this may be slightly late, but I myself always fight to the death, for both blood lust and honour.

 

Blood lust- That fact that you lust for blood is NOT going to make you feel from a fight, when you start losing, you wish to spill as much blood as possible, before you yourself are put down. (This is the way in which I RP it any-ho.)

 

Honour- The same can be said with honour and that is that it IS dishonourable to run away from a fight, especially if you have worked up your blood lust, then suddenly you regain your composure, and decide that 5v1 might not go in your favour, but that IS the curse of the orcs, part of it is the constant wish to spill blood, and working themselves into a frenzy because of this, and in this frenzy I'm afraid that SENSIBLE THINKING is completely out of the window. 

 

The thing is, that I feel that some people are very worried about pixels, and I might I add, those people are often the ones who resort to PVP. I myself do like to fight both in RP and in PVP, although out of wars and raids I think that it should definitely be RP over PVP. 

[Geo 1415]

Usually I would not point fingers but from what I've seen it looks like Zogtar has drawn a lot of orcs into what can only be described as 'bandits'.  When I think of bandits, I think of leatherclad humans with shortswords robbing people on the roads or in camps.  But when I think of orcs I picture hulking wise green shamans or honorbound berserkers.   Something I don't get to see very often any more.  The last honourable duel I took part in personally, was with Thore and Morthawl however I'm not saying these things don't still happen.  I honestly suggest working on putting the shamanistic aspect of orc RP at a high priority.  Let the ancestors guide what major actions the orcs do and refrain from being the warmongering bandits that people make you all out as.  Whether the rumours about "Oh Em Gee all orcs are PVPers and PGers omfggggggg!1!!!11!one!" Are true or not is irrelevant.  You may either complain about what is happening, or do something about it.  Prove the server wrong.  Fall back to your race's roots and show off some of that rich lore-abiding role-play.  Because sometime's I'm beginning to think that even a white-wash has more honour than some of the hulking green bandits that are around.

 

I hope this helped in some way, if not, I apologise.  

[Arteh 1837]

I still love you Geo. It's okay.

[Mingpow321 285]

I'd suggest taking a look at your goblins. It seems like everyone RP's them as basically a cute little type of orc that giggles and pulls harmless pranks all the tine. IIRC, this isn't too lore accurate. Aren't gobos supposed to be smart and crafty, as well as a bit malicious?

Staying accurate to lore in general, really. I could go in depth about that/at least what I think I see, if you want.

 

Not me! I'm Gorbo, that goblin you typically end up killing for being an "offensive little green thing". :D Anyhow, I'm one of the few goblins who actually RPs a malicious, scheming-type goblin. The majority of the goblins you're exposed to are probably of the whitewash sort. However, Gorbo and a few others will use the fact that people find them cute (never understood that, we're smelly and green!) when they know it can be used to their advantage.

 

Also, as a suggestion to my fellow orcs and in response to those saying to tone down the Blah, one thing I often find helpful to those I'm RPing with is the use of emotes. I'll often try to have my character do certain things that will make his dialogue easier to understand. Things like common gestures, expressions, etc.