War Claim On Haelun'or

[Kaun 102]

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It is hard to accept a warclaim from someone who has been blatantly trolling a community over the last month. I know your reaction. You are going to say no and that is was all legit RP that you were trying to provide. However it has been clear to me that the unneeded inspiration and backstory of your past topics is nothing but your want to cause anguish in the high elven community OOCly. Are you trying to give good RP? Are you trying to provide substainal RP? No. I cannot say that you are. Not a single positive thing has come of all these war/genocide posts but OOC bickering. You cannot look at one side and say "You are being the bad guys" when your side is riddled with immoral actions as well.

 

In reality while one side might be abusing an OOC mechanic to stop this the other side is abusing that OOC mechanic to gain a severe upper hand. If you so desperately wish to destroy the high elves why would you not wait for your foe to be at it's proper strength?

 

If you want to provide good RP then rethink your actions because I can't help but see this warclaim as trolling along with the rest of your threads these past few weeks.

 

In conclusion. The high elves will fight if made to but the RP behind it is severely lacking. 

 

EDIT: Also telling people to "leave" until the plugin comes out is not an attitude you should be having. It fuels a needless fire.

100% Legit right here!

[bignsxxy 128]

If they do not want to play with the rest of the server they should be blocked from developing rp such as leveling their mages, and technology. Its only fair since they have this impervious bubble surrounding them. If you dont want to play make alt's until the next plugin comes out.

 

A future plugin is not reason to flee conflict. Im not telling anyone, but if you dont want to play, why be in the server? You are essentially just wasting your time and blowing hot air at everyone else.

 

The orcs dont get MC advantages in pvp why should the mages? Orcs should do 10x the damage, but they are not complaining.

[Nefarious Aus Shitpost 891]

Exactly, let us just wait until the magic plug in is releases so we can have a fair fight. Trashing the High Elven community in this thread is completely immature as this is a warclaim and we have the right to deny it.

 

Riiiight. Let's delay the warclaim forever because lets face it... its taken over two years to even get it confirmed a magic plugin is coming, let alone when its being released.

 

We would attack them regardless if they had magic or not. Even if they had magic, th entire Dwarven Nation(and it's allies and vassals), (assuming) orcish nation would be more than enough for a high elf city full of magic. Right now, all the people attacking are some anarchists and some mercs.

 

And lets not get started what would happen if the dwarven nation brought they're mages.

[Helvetius 314]

Just my thoughts, but this is how I see this:

 

Bignsxxy, you're not really providing fun RP. Then again however, who would like to be a victim to at least what...how many genocides now? Several from the white rose and more beyond? Eventually I will say that it does get tiring when the High Elves have to deal with it all the time.

 

High Elves, this is just /my/ opinion and it may be wrong but it seems like you attack, insult, and tease while not expecting anything to come back at you. You guys cause trouble but complain when people want to kick your arse for it (Not all of you). You also can't expect to have every single nation you pick a fight with or cause trouble with to just back down for the magic plugin which is coming in how many more months? My thoughts to you are: As it is probably going to be a few more months and unless you want to 100% stall your fighting/insulting/trouble, you should probably fight.

 

 

Here is what I believe should be a /NEUTRAL/ ground though.

 

NO SURPRISE ATTACK ON THIS SCALE SO HIGH ELVES CAN STAND A CHANCE!

[V0idsoldier 1139]

This is why OOC permission is the stupidest thing to ever come to lotc. 

[Dreek 1633]

Just my thoughts, but this is how I see this:

 

Bignsxxy, you're not really providing fun RP. Then again however, who would like to be a victim to at least what...how many genocides now? Several from the white rose and more beyond? Eventually I will say that it does get tiring when the High Elves have to deal with it all the time.

 

High Elves, this is just /my/ opinion and it may be wrong but it seems like you attack, insult, and tease while not expecting anything to come back at you. You guys cause trouble but complain when people want to kick your arse for it (Not all of you). You also can't expect to have every single nation you pick a fight with or cause trouble with to just back down for the magic plugin which is coming in how many more months? My thoughts to you are: As it is probably going to be a few more months and unless you want to 100% stall your fighting/insulting/trouble, you should probably fight.

 

 

Here is what I believe should be a /NEUTRAL/ ground though.

 

NO SURPRISE ATTACK ON THIS SCALE SO HIGH ELVES CAN STAND A CHANCE!

I completely agree with this, no surprise attack. To be fair, I even recommended that you compromise and get rid of the sneak attack, bign =P.

[Stag 3233]

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I may be a staff member but that doesn't mean I don't have opinions. I think your actions may be classified as trolling, disrespectful and harming to not only the high elven community but the community as a whole. I am not afraid to call out a player I feel is in the wrong or trolling. 

 

Do I dislike you? No frankly I have a hard time holding grudges, feeling hatred on the internet. I simply want you to think over your actions so you may learn from them and see why people are getting so defensive. You have things you can improve on just as I do. I can be an idiot sometimes but I am not afraid to learn from my less satisfactory actions. I hope you will do the same.

[bignsxxy 128]

Hey we are open for negotiation for the war claim, it can be a suprise attack it cannot be, but we need to talk about it, and not just being a big no! in the first two hours. Thats why I gave them a 2-3 week time frame to sort out the details, I am not waiting more than 4 weeks for this though.

 

You guys can counter offer rules, but no offer at all shows your doing what ever you can to hide behind your mystical bubble.

[Pr0nz0r 7]

Guess what? We can deny your warclaim. Elves can deny it, Dwarves can deny it, Orcs can deny it and Halflings can deny it. Just because we sit here and have 7 pages of bickering doesn't change that we want to postpone it until the magic plug in is released because a lot of our warriors are mages. Mages don't wear armour and wield swords. This is a roleplaying server, not a PVP server.

[tnoy23 202]

(( http://www.lordofthecraft.net/forum/index.php?/topic/96133-tech-team-sneak-peak/   There you go, magic is being worked on.~))

[bignsxxy 128]

The ability to accept or deny, is nothing to do with OOC issues though. Its about not being able to RP, which a battle is MC.

[Crayfishchris 751]

.-. This really is getting out of hand. I think we should let the staff decide on this... because we're getting nowhere. It's been a long while and no one has budged on their points.

[Pr0nz0r 7]

.-. This really is getting out of hand. I think we should let the staff decide on this... because we're getting nowhere. It's been a long while and no one has budged on their points.

Yes, PLEASE.

[5678 260]

Right, here's some more of my input in this subject. My uncle was a Lieutenant Colonel in Vietnam, and I will always remember what he told me one day at a Bar-B-Q. There are many ways a successful leader can win a battle, but said leader must have a combination of traits.

 

1. Ambition: Let's say you lose the siege. Convince your high elven leaders that you have a grand plan to take the city back, and win them over. Struggle to gain absolute command of all military forces, saying that it is impervious to the war effort. After gaining this power, it's up to you if you want to overthrow the current leaders, or actually attempt to re-take the city.

 

2. Judgment: Good judgment guided by education, intuition, and experience can be your key to victory. You spot the enemies on boats, and decide to erect barricades along the suspected landing ground. Maybe use fire arrows to burn the boat ((GM's)). When faced with a new challenge, you must draw from past experiences and come up with the right answer.

 

3. Leadership: If you convince your men that you will lead them to victory, then they will follow you onto the gates of hell. You must be decisive, forceful, and self-assured. Convince your troops IC'ly and OOC'ly that you have a master plan, and it will surely boost their morale. A charismatic leader is also very fun to RP as.

 

4. Audacity: Why not sally forth against the torment of enemies? Why not move your troops in a daring flank attack, smashing your foes between the hammer and the anvil?  Be bold in the plans you devise.

 

5. Agility: Don't think that since you don't have magic, you will automatically lose.  When the conditions of combat are change, re tool. Most of the people playing high elves have no idea how good they are at PvP. Make sure to transfer resources where and when you need them.

 

6. Infrastructure: Make sure everyone knows where they are supposed to be. You will spot the ships before hand, and this will give you some amount of time to erect barricades and organize a defense. Assign some men to distribute arrows and food. Have some build small wooden structures and traps that will hamper the attacker's charge.

 

7. Strategy: Look ahead of your actions. Have a plan ready incase your first defenses fail, or if you lose the battle overall. But also, in chance of victory, prepare for a counter offensive, or how to circle your enemy, and finish him.

 

8. Terror: Be willing to kill innocents. Stay at the walls, yelling insults and comments at the enemy. Place traps and also try to bluff them.

 

9. Branding: Don't do little actions. Do big ones. Don't build a small sea wall. Build a miniature maze of death. Make sure to promise the enemy a costly victory.

 

10. Divine providence: This one is essential. Hopefully your enemies will lag more than you. Maybe a commander will sprint glitch and die of fall damage. Maybe the attackers will run out of food to early, or not have enough ammo. Pray that luck will be on your side.

 

Well, that's probably the last thing I'll be posting, it's quite late over here. You may resume your OOC bickering~

[bignsxxy 128]

Budges? I offered them enchanted weapons to improvise, while the magic plugin is being developed, they are just not wanting to budge. Once the plugin is out this will be the next one "Oh its bugged we have to wait for the update". If you guys cannot improvise, I do not know what I can do, Im down for any form of negotiation on the war claim, you just have to meet me half way somewhere.