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I find it pretty amusing about the fact that I am religious IRL somehow influences the roleplay I do. Ask an atheist who roleplays a clergyman and you will see that he or she has to comply to the things dictated in a fictional fantasy book. To say that is due to an IRL influence of religion is a bit of a biased POV. The whole point of my post is that: When you could comment out of celebration for "Trans visibility day" on the post dedicated for it, I do not see how the comments aforementioned can be taken as respectful given it is dedicated to a religious day which obviously adheres to its scriptures. In regards to "wrong translations" of the Bible however: "You can reference a man-made bible all you want; the translations have never (nor will ever be) wholly accurate. Specifically about the second verse you've quoted (of which I am sure you know how often it is used to be a literal ignorant against queer people), I'd suggest you to explore anything other than the predominant western Christianity beliefs and bible. You would find out that not only the terms used in both the verse you've hyperlinked and other western holy scriptures were recently coined in modern languages like english, but also that there is little to nothing proving that any of the prophets in the Hebrew bible mention any of them or let alone what you accuse somebody else of "preaching"." - @Songwitch It is always an excuse to use "wrong translation" as something to justify a sin which is completely intolerant within Bibles to use it to backfire against people adherent to the Bible. Yet, depending on what you are looking at, most of the present day used Bibles do not fall under the category of "Bible Errata", and none of the translations have changed anything in regards to tolerance of the act of homosexuality. Most of the points made regarding "wrong translations" have been of personal criticism without a valid argumentation or source for it. Perhaps it is of comfort to know that all the copies of the print mistakes and other translations have been destroyed or have stopped in making them and are now sold at auctions. Source and definitions of Bible Errata: Bible Errate is a category of errors and a list of print mistakes, and unconventional translations within Bibles made from the year 800 until 1944, of which many were declared as heretical. Bible Errata Though, I am signing out from the conversation to spend some nice time in prayer.

"To Markus Marie "The Adunian" Spare me the historical lecture regarding how Dumacracy came to be as we now live a few hundred years past that. It would seem that your father has instilled the skill of manipulation and the will to puppeteer an entire election. The House of Varoche and Montelliano have cherished their Adrian history which includes Duke Paul Varoche, long after your father made the idiotic and barbaric decision for a war of independence and taking the lives of innocent men, women and children in the lands of Aaun. It is however of poor judgement to say that they do not cherish their heritage because they had contributed in the Adria that your treasonous kind of a father led as they too have played part in the establishment of Adria in its past, and they likely did a better job at leading the Duchy then cooperating with Neo-Renatians who were out for the blood of those around them. If it was not for the House of Varoche and Montelliano, your father would not have been a Duke, but then the dream of those who opposed him would come true; the title to be put in abeyance. You blame these Houses for not cherishing their Adrian heritage, then what is the TRUE cherishing of Adrian heritage? Spilling blood for your own gain like your father or spitting on the historical signifance by becoming a vassal of Adunians? If you can remember well, it was independence for which your father slaughtered innocents, so let us pray that the Adunians will not go through a similar fate as our martyred brothers and sisters in Canondom. You say they ignore their ancestry, and Adrian heritage, yet it seems that the Horenic genetics that have come from the circle-succession and plotting Dukes of Adria after Adrian I, Josip II, and the other lot whose blood runs through your veins, have played in a big role within your act as the puppeteer of this election. The Patricians know the truth. And soon everyone else will. Mikhail Sergei Sarkozic"

"You'd do me quite the favor as I would rather die then to see the title of Adria be subject as a vassal under a Kingdom of Adunians. The only good Adria, is the independent Adria, if that is not possible, then abeyance is the best option." Stated Mikhail Sergei Sarkozic

"To His Holiness, Caius Primus If you are an advocate for peace and for the outcome of a fair election that provides such a peace by the means of using Dumacracy, then the only way to do so is to allow the patrician Houses who have been left out to vote in the Duma. I do not rebuke you, I rebuke the very fact that the House Varoche and Montelliano have not been given the chance to determine the future of the very Duchy they were once a part of. As you have said before, this matter is a secular affair and I do not question your Holiness's authority, but I question the breach of Adrian Dumacracy and the Dumacratic Tradition. As aforementioned, it has always been the case that all the Houses who have historically contributed to Adria have a place to vote for its future. For excluding the honorable Houses of Varoche and Montelliano, it can not be seen as a "fair" resolution to exclude them to provide the Patrician Houses mentioned on the list made by Your Holiness with a "fair Duma". To exclude these honorable Houses is to exclude history. The right and total amount of Patrician Houses to decide the future of Adria is the backbone of the Duma. Signed, Mikhail Sergei Sarkozic"

A depiction of a man burning a serpent, a symbol of deceit and betrayal, with the body of a crow, symbolizing the title of Duke of Adria being destroyed by “noblemen” and “noblewomen” who have the same characteristics as that of the serpent. The other flying crows, symbolizing the free and the truly noble Houses pecking at the serpent. THIS SIXTH DUMAPALOOZA HAS BEEN A FARCE and a CHARADE, The list of electors did not contain all the patrician Houses as per tradition of the Dumapalooza, for everyone who has contributed to the Duchy is allowed to be invited. The Houses of Varoche and Montelliano were intentionally excluded as they did not deny a vote out of their own will, but were purposefully vacated from their patrician seats. The House of Varoche even having held the title of Duke of Adria and not having been invited is an orchestrated act by itself for the current “Duke of Adria” would know what the outcome would have been. Including the House of Montelliano which had a significant impact on the idea of an Adria! To leave these honorable Houses out of the Dumapalooza is nothing more but a power play to reaffirm the now so-called ‘Duke’, who has continuously fought alongside anathema, the murderers of King Edmund II and the League of Veletz who fought alongside those barbarians against Princes of CANONDOM. To exclude honorable Houses who have contributed years to Adria is almost as if someone would want a situation much like that of the forefather of many within the electorate, named Joseph “The Mad” Sarkozic who had slain people within the Duma to enthrone himself as Duke. There is no fairness in leaving these Houses out for their vote is what gives meaning to the entirety of Dumacracy! It has always been the case that a fair Dumapalooza is one where everyone has been historically invited to one. Give the Houses Varoche and Montelliano their seats back and let them never be disrespected like this ever again for their contributions to the Duchy of Adria is much more than what most of the Adrian “noble” houses as of now can account for. It is therefore that I call upon the Patrician Houses who are in favor of allowing the House of Varoche and House of Montelliano back to their seats as elector to sign this missive and then should all be in favor, I, Mikhail Sergei Sarkozic will forfeit my right as elector for the House of Sarkozic van Aaun. V CHEST’ DREVNIKH VORON, IN HONOR OF THE ANCIENT CROWS, MIKHAIL SERGEI SARKOZIC EMILIO VAROCHE, COUNT OF VAROCHE STEFANO DE MONTELLIANO

To His Holiness Caius Primus, The House Sarkozic var Aaun votes for the House Barbanov, as successor to Adria to rectify the many wrongs made in the past by the recent predecessors of Markus Marie Sarkozic. We vote that the House Barbanov is to be granted the title of Duke of Adria and to do with it what ever His Majesty deems fit. Signed, Mikhail Sergei Sarkozic var Aaun

Upon a rather late timing, Father Edmund realized something.. "What of the House Varoche? Are they not a historical contribution to the Duchy? So much so that they are able to vote within this Dumapalooza? and perhaps the next that will determine the future of Adria?"

"Why bring an Empire back that had stirred so much chaos..?" Asked Father Edmund. "I can not see how an Empire in this day and age would make sense given the present relations between the realms of Man. I'd rather jump off of the Hand of Horen then to see another Empire rise which had persecuted Canonist clergy in the past."

Echoes of Solace: The Journey of Edmund Amadeus Father Edmund wrote and sat next to an icon of his great-grandfather, Charles I, the first King of Aaun. In shadows cast by moonlit night, I, Edmund Amadeus, lost in plight, Abandoned by kin, forsaken, forsworn, Left to weather sorrow since the day I was born. My mother, fleeting, chose To tread the path where treason grows, League of Veletz, treacherous band, Her whispers vanished like grains of sand. Father's face a distant dream, Never known, a silent stream, Flowing through the mist of time, His absence a mountain I cannot climb. Alone I wandered, heart heavy with woe, In the wilderness of life's cruel flow, But amidst the darkness, a flicker of light, A calling beckoned through the endless night. The Church of the Canon, its arms open wide, Offering solace, a place to confide, I took refuge in its hallowed halls, Seeking peace amid these desolate walls. Through trials and tribulations, I found my way, A path of faith where doubts would sway, I donned the cloth, became a priest, In service to God, my soul was released. Yet still, within the chambers of my heart, Lingers the ache, the longing, the part Of me that yearns for love's embrace, For the warmth of a mother's and father’s face. But I stand resolute, steadfast and true, In my calling, my purpose, my faith anew, For in the silence of prayer, I find my release, Edmund Amadeus, the priest of peace.

"There are rather.. odd if not absolutely deranged statements within this letter which is supposed to spread the "truth about GOD"... Firstly, I can not see any evidence as to how GOD could possibly be the "Deceiver" neither can I read a fully theologically researched statement made about how or why He can be so. Although, judging from the many misconceptions made within this letter, I do not think this has been written with fully scholastic knowledge about Canondom. Secondly, It is a strange point to make that elves, orcs and others are somehow "less important" then Man. As far as importance is concerned, within Canondom, there is St. Pius; a Saint who is of the Elven race and a convert to Canondom. So to draw the illusion of human supremacy within Canondom is a failed objective. Not to mention how there has been Orcish and Elven clergy within the Church in the past. Thirdly, I can not see how GOD can come to the point of personification, as He Himself has already proven his existence and does not need to be so. Not to mention, the races that you mentioned that are somehow less important? Simply guess who created them! Fourthly, it is a ridiculous idea to think about a Temple for all "Gods", as the existence of ONE GOD has never been debunked by the faiths except Canondom, and yet this idea is one of the more.. progressive corners of faith. GOD have mercy on us all, I believe you were right when you said that Canonist Orthodoxy needs a backbone, Uncle." Stated Father Edmund from within the Hand of Horen, talking to his Uncle John whilst having breakfast and showing him the letter. @Ramon

"It seems that theology regarding Canondom courses through the veins of those who descend from Alstion, I am most proud of cousin James for writing this interesting thesis. GOD willingly, people will learn a lot of it." stated Father Edmund before lighting a cigar and having a sip of Roach Red.

"I'd rather jump off of the Hand of Horen. Let His Holiness be the only one to pronounce someone as Emperor instead of calling for yet another circle-succession of a certain ancient dynasty." Stated Edmund Amadeus.

"GOD has bestowed the duty of being his Vicar upon the right one. May GOD protect Caius Primus." Edmund Amadeus stated before returning back into prayer for the preservation of the Church.

This seems like disrespect, although I do not know whether @Amayonnaisetried to make an irl comparison to religion and its doctrines but it certainly seems disrespectful if the aforementioned was the case.

Funny how you meant this for Canondom only but simultaneaously proved my point about people of the LGBTQ disrespecting religion and its doctrines.

Like my good friend @Enlightenmentsaid; make your own sect from Canondom that does tolerate what you are fighting for and you're free to larp western modern/progressive and tolerant protestantism (this is about the parts of protestantism that legalized homosexuality). Just see how long it will endure IRP and there is no need to force changes down the throats of people who want to keep human lore intact by the use of OOC posts like this to try and make anything against homosexuals bannable. To be honest, if such effort was being made irl to fight for the rights of the LGBTQ perhaps it would've gotten somewhere. But at this point its just fighting for a bunch of religious legislation on a mineman server which is of no use to the irl rights of your community at all.

Don't think you have heard of the acid pits used by elves to kill personas who are not of pureblood... seems oddly familiar.

Unfortunately the way I see it is that some communities are tolerant of allowing modern ideas to be inserted and some are not so tolerant. It just is what it is and I find OOC forcing to make an IRP opinion against a way of living bannable weird and in no way can this case be equated to racism.

I have never heard this being said about people who are made fun of for adhering to an IRL abrahamic faith and due to their views on homosexuality. While we are at it and discussing discrimination against groups of people because it hurts them to see it OOC let me bring up another issue that is overlooked: So here, If you do not like Christians, Muslims, Jews for their OOC norms and values; you're weird. I have seen people of the homosexual-orientation say the following about keyfigures in those religions: "Jesus was gay and his apostles too" "Mohammed was gay" Et cetera. Why is there not any attention to this and there is to homosexuality and the opinion that someone holds against it on a fantasy-medieval server? At this point just allow IRL religious conservatives to RP as they want which in this case is fictional religions like Iman Al Rashidun for the Qalasheen and Canondom for the rest of man. If you're so hurt by it there are plenty of other communities tolerant of what you are fighting for.

I don't think a IRP respectful perspective that goes against the act of homosexuality is in any way or form harmful. If it is harming you irl, the problem does not lie with the person who gives such perspective but merely the person in question who deems it to be homophobic and tries to create a fuss out of it. There are real world problems that deserve attention and I do not think the right way to solve the IRL issue in regards to homophobia is to try and boycott a community that adheres to a traditional religion IRP. Although the server is not based on a "Dark Age Medieval Europe" lets say, I do think that no one should feel excluded, just do not try to force your OOC opinion or POV down the throats of someone IRP who likes to RP a traditional-religious because it will both have an OOC and IRP backlash (As should be expected.)

THE CANONIST CROSS AGAINST SECULARISM A PHILOSOPHICAL EPISTLE Monastic Edmund Amadeus TABLE OF CONTENT I. OPENING PRAYER II. INTRODUCTION III. THE CRUSADE IV. ON SECULAR POWER AND ITS ABUSE TO COUNTER CANON LAW V. CANON LAW, ITS PRECEDENCE AND IMPORTANCE VI. CONCLUDING PRAYER I. OPENING PRAYER IN THE NAME OF GOD, May you, our Creator, have mercy upon every soul upon this world. Protect us against the many sins the Deceiver exposes us to and protect us against any threat made against the entirety of Canondom. Guide the laity and clergy to do right as the Exalted have commanded of us through your Holy Name and may Your Holy Light continue to shine upon us to preserve the peace within our world. It is of Saint Daniel of Al’Khazar who I humbly ask to pray for us, as we, Man, must preserve the peace in this world, for Canondom to preserve. Us, Man, are mere sinners, and I beg you to pray so GOD may forgive us for the chaos that we cause in this world. Amen. II. INTRODUCTION In Nomine DEI, We live in a world where power is often a force that takes the overhand in one’s position. It is political power that often makes one think that they are so invincible and immune that one is able to overrule whatever one wants. It is therefore of course no surprise that those with such a feeling of power think they are able to overrule Canon Law. I see a great danger in such, therefore, I intend to write this epistle so we might prevent situations against our Holy Church and His Holiness. As there has been schisms due to having too much sense of power, as going against Canondom, Canon Law, and its Church, is going against the very principles that the Exalted have laid out in front of us. In this epistle, I will describe the dangers of secularism, and the consequences that it might have for our Church. III. THE CRUSADE “The Crusade”, is what I call the war for the defense of one’s faith within the mind, a protection from the dangers that the soul of one is facing in the world and the many sins that the Deceiver causes within our world. When one lacks faith, one is exposed to sin, to prevent sin, one must pray for protection and guidance through our faith. The weapons of the Crusade against the traps and works of the Deceiver are the following: I. Prayer II. Prayer III. and PRAYER The only essential thing that one needs to survive within Canondom, is prayer. Prayer dedicated to communicating with your Creator so He might protect you against what you are facing. Use a Saint in your prayers, as they shall in turn pray for you. It is through prayer that one is able to fight off the Daemons that cause faith to steer towards a greed for power and steer one’s soul towards what GOD had not intended for us. IV. ON SECULAR POWER AND ITS ABUSE TO COUNTER CANON LAW Secular power is a form of power which is of dangerous origin against Canondom. It has often been the case in Empires of old where the mortal sovereigns would feel themselves above religious law, and therefore feel themselves above GOD His representative in this world. Or the many schisms can also be named as examples which have been attempts to work against the legislation set by our Holy Church. Secularism and its power is something which is designed to break the religious laws of our Holy Church. Designed to bend the very teachings of the Exalted which have been mentioned within the Holy Scrolls. It was through secular power and legislation, that it was proposed to alter the union of Man, a proposal aimed against our Holy Church for teaching the example of Exalted Horen and St. Julia of Paradisius, GOD bless them both. There is an issue in regards to governmental secularism, when the mortal governments of Man are being elevated above our Holy Church. I call this a sin and is in fact a form of a schism for one rejects the shield and sword that our Church has given against the forces of heathenry that are directly of the Deceiver himself. And by shield and sword I mean, the defense of our faith and the power to lead lands of Canondom. GOD has blessed sovereigns to guide our faith, and not to contradict it by means of immoral propositions of legislation, or to feel oneself above His Holiness and His purpose within Canondom and our world. We, descendants of Exalted Horen, must make the Exalted, The Saints, the Blessed and the Venerable proud for we ought to serve GOD and Him only, and protect the one true faith in His name. V. CANON LAW, ITS PRECEDENCE AND IMPORTANCE Canon Law is what lays the foundation of Canondom, and keeps our faith balanced in every aspect within our way of life. In my opinion, religious law has always been enough to live by. However, I can speak for myself, and thus not for the rest of Man. Canon Law is there to protect, and not to harm anyone. Abide by the Canon Law, and you are as one of the laity should be, an example for your brothers and sisters in Canondom. Canon Law is often seen as a mere list of religious legislation, instead one ought to see it as guidance. The importance of Canon Law is that it all summarizes the very foundations of our faith, what one is to tolerate, and what one is not to tolerate. The Canon Law is based upon the Holy Scrolls, the word of GOD voiced through the Exalted who now find themselves in the Seven Skies. For surely, he who takes GOD His word and the example of the Exalted into their lives, shall have a life worth living. A life that protects against the evil spread by the Deceiver and the Daemons. VI. CONCLUDING PRAYER IN THE NAME OF GOD, Our Creator who finds Himself in the Seven Skies, I ask you to guide Man towards absolute dedication to you by worship in Canondom. It is You who guides Canondom through the swords of the many that have fought against the threats against our faith, and You who make sure we are victorious in the battles against the evil that surrounds us. I ask You to protect all Canonists against the evil that we may face in the future, and forgive the sins of the many who have disappointed You. I ask that you will forgive our sins and trespasses, and that we shall be victorious against those who defile our faith. Amen.

"Sometimes I just wonder how things that are taboo within Canondom are spoken out loud about. Sometimes one might wonder whether it is just personal confusion or the work of the Deceiver. Personally, I think it is the latter." The Monastic Edmund Amadeus stated from the room within the monastery.

"Canon Law takes precedence over the secular in regards to lands where dioceses of Canondom are present." Stated the monastic Edmund Amadeus.

"Someone ought to bring back the Canonist Tribunal and bring it back to its former glories to have a serious conversation with the people who want the alter the way of Man as it has for the past thousands of years. It was Exalted Horen and St. Julia, not Exalted Horen and St. Julius! I just can not see how blind one has been made to come with the secular idea to try and legalize homosexuality under the eye of GOD and say it is in the name of love when many theologians have agreed with the study of Venerable Jude II. I find it no more ridiculous how the sovereigns who have come with this idea are deemed to be annointed by GOD and now come with an act of religious rebellion like this." The Monastic Edmund Amadeus stated from his Abbey.