Demotheus

Lotha stared at one of the notices that had been pinned in Sutica for a while. After about ten minutes of staring she blinked a few times as she snapped out of her strange little trance. She squinted at the notice which was probably put up while she was staring at that spot on the wall and finally read it. She hummed a low note for a few seconds before she withdrew a pen and paper and made off to find some place to write and subsequently send a letter. “Dear Umi, Lotha has seen your request for a voice-box. While Lotha is unable to create such a thing Lotha may possibly be able to assist in one or two ways with her endeavor should Umi require such. Lotha is a master Illusionist, though she does not know much of Animii she is willing to assist if constructing such a thing would require the aid of something like Illusion. A second way Lotha can assist is if Umi is contacted by a Transfigurationist, Lotha can work with this person to help create some item which can serve as a conduit for Umi’s voice. The third way is – if all else fails – Lotha may be willing to teach Umi Illusion and as such she would be able to do so of her own will. However, we would have to meet first and discuss and Lotha would need to make a judgement as to whether Umi would be a good fit for the magic. Do mind that for some reason magic is not able to be taught at the moment. ((Lore games)). If Umi requires Lotha’s assistance feel free to send a letter! Signed, ~Lotha Scylla” OOC: Discord: Detrimental#7014 Minecraft Name: Demotheus

*hears meme soviet song in the distance slowly growing nearer. * "the **** is that?"

Nah nah. Works great for China. I support this.

((how will this archery contest be carried out? Mechanically? RPly? Rolls?

((is this book rply available in a place such as Dragur Library at Cloud Temple?))

Lotha cackled as she heard the public news and gossip in sutica. "Lotha thinks the dwarves must have infiltrated their government!"

Let me know what you think of my suggestion just above your reply here, please. ?

Hey I have a fun suggestion. Edit the teaching redline to mean only people who have TAs in their voidal magic can teach their applicable spells in household magic. The user than makes a feat app or whatever for those spells and the teacher signs off saying it be kosher. Else who will be the first "masters" of domestic magic who mean to teach others it's art. Especially since it says you can't know spells you weren't taught.

((probably because no one wants to think about grandparents having the diddly doo, specially when theyre old. Feel bad thst he took his posters down tho lol. Lotha was mostly self deprecating. Rip southorons

“Hah!” Cackled a four foot tall dark-elf dwarf hybrid. “Aaaahahahaha!” She cackled some more. “No one wants to marry an old geezer!” Said the probably 700 year old elfess.

Alright I actually finished reading this entire thread now. First thing’s first; insults do not make your argument better, they make it worse and only serve to escalate a shitstorm. With that said... Mina’s depiction of what happened – and I’m going to assume that for the most part it’s accurate – would leave me as satisfied as I really could be with the situation. This is coming from someone who LOATHES PvP as it is currently on LotC. Even if Bepis hadn’t stepped up to end the bullshit arguments that were happening and the orcs wound up slaughtering nearly everyone I assume they’d have laid out the same offer regardless. Everything seems like it was justified in that sense. It is true that the 10+ rule doesn’t apply like you assumed it does, Mina. But that’s a minor issue which is easily corrected, as someone already mentioned earlier. Honestly, it’s been years man. Magic. Plugin. When? Likely not for a long time if ever cause the dev team bailed. **** I’d be happy with mages being able to run a command to give them items like a bow, arrows depending on their magic tier or type of magic. Maybe give them certain enchantments or effects, and armor. Why should we have to buy or make armor for an OOC reason of being prepared for PVP? It’d be super easy. Some magics might have specific stuff, but **** it man. It’d at least make it feel slightly more like mages actually have a shot without having to grind or buy iron or make weapons that they’ll never use ICly. Just a representation of their abilities as a mage. And soulbind those items so people can’t just basically dupe arrows n **** lol. Figure out a decent cool down or other system so that you can’t just spam the command and maybe have the items expire after a certain time all together so you can’t stack them. Probably expire after the cool down ends. Which shouldn’t be more than like 30 minutes, except perhaps in times of war. Maybe I should just make a separate thread for that idea. But Mina, assuming what you said is even mostly correct, that is indeed it, chief. For how PvP is currently, that is it. That’s how you fuckin’ do it. As for that other guy who said “logs can be altered”, he was referring to logs which caused a GM to see fit to teleport the “ninja olog” back, which probably means the gm saw the logs themselves by running their gm command or whatever, and agreed it was bullshit. In that case it’s pretty strong evidence.

Bad role-players definitely gravitate to magic. But bad role players also gravitate to PVP. And the worst part about this vicious cycle is that no one ever gives anyone a chance to improve and prove they’ve improved. You’re a mage? I don’t know for sure if you’ve got a good reputation? PVP. That said, the one thing about this is, isn’t this defender default? And above that isn’t it guard default for the issue in Sutica that Tri brought up?

People talk about edgy self insert mages power gaming and **** and min maxing or whatever as a defense for PvP default unironically ignoring thst PvP relies entirely on mechanical PvP relies entirely on ooc skills that have little to do with rp. "but they like that their PvP makes a rp impact!" By basically grinding their skill in PvP so thst they can beat anyone who doesn't while claiming they do it because people who rp combat refuse to die. That's some funny wording right there and it's commonly used. The problem is that most PvPers refuse to die as well when they combat rp but decide to blame the mage who by all means should be able to **** them up pretty confidently if they play smart. Hypocricy all around.

Ooc: really glad these trials don't... At least as far as I see at this point... Involve sentient sacrifices. Lol

Yours is just the most recent comment about this. But I just want to add to it in case someone is confused or misinterpreting it. Perhaps I am, myself. It's fine for your character to min max. If that's what they would do and they have compelling reasons to do so. It's fine for them to live their whole lives around magic too. A character can decide to define themselves by magic and that may be the first impression they wish to present to others. Oocly however you shouldnt define your character by the magic they use. Oocly you should know there's more to them than magic and it should inform what they do. If a character is driven largely by magic, magic itself shouldn't be the reason they're driven by magic. Ie: magic because magic because magic. I worry that people will read this sort of comment and decide that mages who are super passionate in character about their magic or magic in general are trash rather than what the comments assumable mean which is if you were to ask oocly who their character is and the player struggles to say more than "they uh like magic?" thst is a sign of a bad mage PLAYER.

Mana and life force are both "soft" resourses anyway. Thank ******* christ for that, too, because that would make it that muhh more useless compared to the swordsman that seems to barely show fatigue over a thousand ******* emotes.

Soft? Elaborate!

Part of the problem with magic is the fact that mages feel entitled to awesome power because at the end of the day they have a fuckton of stupid restrictions that may or may not make sense. Mage weakness? Sure. I’ll bite one. Especially since it’s at least now very well defined and not a “mages are noodles” situation. But magic takes a lot of “focus” which mechanically translates to people being unable to move or dodge or they’ll automatically lose focus and can’t continue casting their spell? That’s so stupid. Unless it’s some ritual or /super/ intense spell being cast, it should be easy to move fairly quickly, dodge ****, while casting like half the spells a magic is capable of. Like T3 and under. But people throw fits about it. *Charge small fire bolt.* *Charge small fire bolt, almost ready to cast!! (yo in what world does charging a handful of fire take so long for?) *Someone forces you to dodge or move quickly to avoid an attack. Fire ball makes fart sound and disappears. * “Uh, uh. Okay, it’s fine!” *Starts again* *gets ******* stabbed. Can’t cast for the rest of the fight, plus is weaksauce so can barely fight as it is.* it’s stupid. Beyond stupid. And it sucks. It really feeds into the tendency for players to min-max their magic because guess what? Everyone who doesn’t use magic min-maxes their character already. They just throw it in their backstory that they trained with the sword, and the bow, and the warhammer, and the mace, and basically can fight and do everything super well and has the best aim and the best reflexes. Meanwhile mages historically need to spend like 3 months learning their magic – and god forbid their teacher is inactive or something. As it stands now, a tier system is the standard. And you have to be allowed to progress to the next tier by your teacher. Problem with this is if your actual learning of spells isn’t going as quickly, teacher goes inactive for a bit, etc. You can’t progress at all, not even one of the biggest parts of learning magic which is to be able to become “stronger”. Realistically you should be able to be “Tier 3” but if you put the time in but weren’t also being taught new things about the magic you should be able to cast at the level of a higher tier just fine. Least that’s how I’ve understood it. There’s so much wrong with combat RP itself that it handicapps magic. Nothing is really regulated outside of powergaming which is so vaguely defined on a case by case basis that it only serves to create arguments between players if you call someone out for doing something past what should be the limits. How much time is an emote really? Is it a range of time? Anywhere from 1 second to five seconds? How far can you move in that time? Can you feasibly make multiple strikes on someone in one emote? A lot of real life fighting involves overwhelming your opponent with fast and strong blows and movements. In LOTC it’s just made harder because nothing is defined. When someone (like me) suggests implementing a decent but simple combat system it’s shot down because “this ain’t dnd, boomer.” Doesn’t need to be, zoomer, but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t have structure. Every bit of extra structure it can have will reduce the ooc bickering and debating exponentially. /endrant

So technically saying “I’m a white guy” is breaking the rules on the forums and in game? Sounds like the sort of rule that is so vague it can be applied as liberally or conservatively as wanted by the whims of whoever decides they do or don’t like a particular person. Stupid rule. Fix it. Satire shouldn’t be banned, especially when the satire was at LEAST now low effort “le random dark elf nearby says whatever in response to some nonsense they shouldn’t have any knowledge of anyway.”

Lotha snorted, catching wind that her old friend? Acquaintance? Was a senator now. "neat." she commented to herself upon hearing the gossip.

It’s not so much about having power over time so much as it is about having complete dominion over the concept. It’d be ludicrous for an aenguel to have dominion over time like that, however if Metzli had the power to manipulate the flow of time and see the past but wasn’t needed in order for time to continue to function/flow it’d be fine. There are plenty of aengueldaemons that don’t NEED to do anything, they just WANT to. IE: There doesn’t need to be a deity for a concept like purity or justice. It’s arbitrary. These concepts don’t exist BECAUSE of those figures, those figures chose to represent them, though. Then it’s just a question of why Metzli does what she does in the first place. Why time? A fascination with it? How it flows? how it affects things? Who knows. I’m not writing this lore so I won’t do much more thinking on it than that. Got other things to write xD