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    [✓] [Creature Lore] Epiphytes, The Dryad Curse

    in Magical

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    This Lore has been accepted. Moved to Implemented Lore, it will be sorted to it's appropriate category soon. Please note that if this is playable lore, such as a magic or CA, you will need to write a guide for this piece. You will be contacted regarding the guide (or implementation if it isn’t needed) shortly.

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    Story Team Update - Lore Criteria

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    50 minutes ago, ThatFunkyBunch said:

    Question number three from one of the many resident schizos. If a new submission is missing a few of the clarifications. 

    {Explicitly asking about magic submissions as shamanism is being worked through the gears} 

    Will there be a chance to make sure the magic is fixed from a few minor issues such as ability labels, without the entire submission being denied and having to go through the review process again? 

    I ask because my ability to retain information from posts like these can be bad, and I need to re-read them several times. As perhaps mentioned before Divine, Sewer and I are working on a Lutaumancy and others are working on the fixes needed for Witch Doctor  and Farseer, I won't deny I may miss a few things as the Lutau is 68% done. From what I gather it is along the lines submitted here but in case, I miss something I basically want to know if a grace period will be given to let changes be made. 

     

    Shelving is always a last-ditch-effort when a lore has no other option available. All actions like asking to fix, helping to fix, or restricting further use until its fixed, would be taken before shelving something flat-out. More info on that is in the thread below.

     

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    Story Team Update - Lore Criteria

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    2 minutes ago, ThatFunkyBunch said:

    Got it, are magics that aren't as updated going to need to be re-written or changed to better fit the criteria?

     

    Not for the time being no, although that may change months down the road if no improvement is in sight and the magics are causing issues for players in their roleplay.

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    Story Team Update - Lore Criteria

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    4 minutes ago, GrowingIvy said:

    When writing simple player-pet creatures (there will be more), would the formatting be the same as the ET creatures?

     

    The former disparity between "Event Race" "Event Creature" and "Creature" have been just molded to one they pretty much had the same format, and the distinction is in the details. So the new Creature Submissions format, which largely borrows from the latter two, covers any/all nonplayable creatures. 

     

     

     

    8 minutes ago, Unwillingly said:

    still think guides are just an unnecessary ask of lorewriters when any guide info could just as easily be incorporated into the lore piece itself. half of the guide requirements im reading rn are things that (to my knowledge) people already put into lore subs anyways

     

    From my experience in lore writing (writing six guides for lorepieces) it really is not that big of an ask. From my experience in enforcing or following lore through activity trials, no matter how un-flowery you may make your lore, players always consistently proclaim the lore is confusing. This is compoundedly bad when the guide has copy-pasted the lore because of writer laziness. In general, this new criteria for guides massively reduces the work and simplifies it to something more akin to the Musin guide, which just in simple terms and short paragraphs explains how you roleplay the creature, and what is critical to know. No lore currently accepted accounts for that and just gives you everything at equal, front-facing value. I know it can be irritating getting a piece through pending, then having to write a dumbed-down explanation of it, but truly it isn't that much work for what prevents a ton of headache in the future. 

     

    3 minutes ago, ThatFunkyBunch said:

    TDLR for this comment: Is this going to kick off a new Lore Games?

    absolutely not as the vast majority of our currently accepted lore fits into this criteria already

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    Story Team Update - Lore Criteria

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    Hey everyone!

    It's about time for a short and sweet Story Team Update. This update covers the long needed update of Lore Criteria. Finished in July and in team review until mid November, we've wanted to make sure this is a bulletproof, total criteria which fully explains every aspect of how we look at lore, why we do it that way, and how you can use that to your best advantage. 


    To be frank, the previous system was entirely incorrect and holds countless incorrect details which deeply frustrate the ST, and have for some time.

     

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    General Criteria Updates

     

    General Criteria covers the topics about mechanics in lore. These are things like balancing, spell-types, limits on these spells, things to include, and so on. It consists of the following topics.

     

    Ability Types
    Ability Components
    Combat/Summoned Pets & Mounts
    Guides
    CA Race Groupings
    Special Lore Locations/Artifacts
    Default Magic Progression

     

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    Explanation Topic Updates

     

    Explanation Topics covers the topics regarding mostly how ST view certain subjects in lore, and what we have found best in that regard. We've spent a long time observing and massively overhauling lore and our standards over the last couple years, seeing what works and what doesn't- these topics mostly cover those observations, and how we came to them. The subforum consists of the following topics.

     

    Connection & Disconnection
    Lore Structures & Environment Warping
    The Glass Cannon Mentality
    Boons & Banes
    The Lore Web
    Lore Variants
    Techlock & Magi-Tech
    Healing
    Bad Lore
    Power Sources

     

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    Submission Criteria

     

    Submission Criteria is primarily the format for lorepieces. In the past, most of them were unfinished or difficult to navigate, and even on release, not up to date with standards. We've removed lore submission types for those we have already not been receiving (New core races, deity submissions, world event submissions) and added those which have been lacking; namely Creatures, Flora, Alchemy, and Guides. The list consists of the following.

     

    Magic & Feat Submissions

    CA Race Submissions

    Alchemy & Further Alchemy Submissions

    Resource Submissions 

    Historical/Legend Submissions 

    Location Submissions

    Technology Submissions 

    Flora/Herb Submissions

    Event Creature Submissions

     

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    General Information Threads

     

    General Information Threads serve as a explanation as to the backface of lore and how Story Team manages so. As well, concepts like Lore Surgery, Amendments, The Loremag Process, and so on. Take a look at the two threads below.

     

    Story Team Oversight

    Story Team Resources

     

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    Feel free to take a look at them all in Lore Criteria and Submissions.

    As well, please discuss any thoughts you might have in the Story Team Discord.

     

    Have a great one guys!

     

     

     

    A thank you to @TheWanRing, @Valannor, @Panashea, @Jaelon, @Taylor, @Melpomenne, @Nooblius, @Sorcerio, @yandeer, @Pompilidae, and @Kalehart for your thorough review and contribution to this rewrite. Your insightful feedback is what has made it possible.

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    Submission Information

    in Lore Criteria + Submissions

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     Lore Submission Info Hub

    If you wish to submit lore, please read the following. It will cover what you need to follow and how the lore voting process works. 

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    Lore Submission Guides

    You can find information on each type of lore submission, along with its required formatting, in the links below. Please note if you do not follow the guidelines and/or formatting, your lore will be held from review.

     

    Informational Threads

    The following threads are threads that apply to multiple types of pieces. Please read them as necessary as they provide incredibly insightful feedback into how ST looks at lore, why that is, and what you should consider in regards to your own writing. 

    General Criteria
    Ability Types - Utilized for defining which types of abilities you may be using and what to consider.
    Ability Components - Formatting for abilities and defining what parts you should consider and include for abilities.
    Combat/Summoned Pets & Mounts - What to look for when defining pet-related CRP.
    Guides - What the purpose of guides are, and how they simplify your lore.
    CA Race Groupings - How to categorize and detail your CA in accordance with others.
    Special Lore Locations/Artifacts - What to consider with lore-specific artifacts or constructed areas in mind.
    Default Magic Progression - Standardized magic progression.

    Explanation Topics
    Connection & Disconnection - How should these topics play a part in your lore, how does the ST view them?
    Lore Structures & Environment Warping - What should you include and consider when writing structures or lore areas in your lore?
    The Glass Cannon Mentality - How is power given drawbacks?
    Boons & Banes - How is Cost V.S. Benefit of your lore at large? 
    The Lore Web - How does all lore interact or play with one another?
    Lore Variants - What is the difference between a different style of roleplay and an alternative magic?
    Techlock & Magi-Tech - What are the bounds of Techlock & Magitech and why do they exist? What do the ST look for in new submissions?
    Healing - Why is healing so rare, and how can I make it work?
    Bad Lore - What makes bad lore?
    Power Sources - What fuels my magic? What forms the foundational basis of it, and what should I consider?

     

    General Information
    Story Team Resources - Here's some information on lore processes (Loremags, Amendments, Additions) aswell as Story Discord.
    Story Team Oversight - A general transparency thread on how Story Team upkeeps, reviews, and enforces lore.

     

    Magic Submissions

    If you want to submit a new magic to LotC, you need to read the following:

     

    Creature "CA" Submissions

    The following submission types are made for racial/creature submissions:

     

     

    Alchemy and Further Alchemy Submissions

    If you want to submit a new alchemy/further alchemy piece to LotC, you need to read the following:

    World Lore Submissions

    The following submission types are made for world lore oriented submissions:

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    The Lore Process

    In the spoiler you can find the process for submitting lore and how lore is handled/reviewed.

     

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    Submitting Lore - 1

    Once you’ve read the submission guide(s) and other necessary resources left above and write up your lore, you will be able to submit it. Please only submit pieces which are completed unless you are looking for additional feedback. If you are still working on the post, mark is as "WIP" or it will be reviewed.

     

    Waiting - 2

    After you submit your lore, it will be open for people to comment on for a period of time. As this happens, your lore will also be slotted into a queue for the next available lore review. Each lore review contains 4-6 pieces and takes roughly 9 days to complete.

     

    Lore Review - 3

    Once your piece is selected for the next lore review, it will be marked on the Accepted-Stuff sheet accordingly. 

     

    After the lore is voted on, you will receive a verdict. This verdict will either be Accepted, Implemented, Pending, or Denied.

    Accepted - The piece has been accepted with no issues. 

    Implemented - In the case your lore is an amendment or an addition, we will submit this to let you know it has been applied to the main lore.

    Pending - You will receive a changelist in DMs on Discord or The Forums regarding what needs to be fixed. While negotiable, anything you wish to discuss must be brought up with the manager delivering the verdict.

    Denied - Your lore was denied, and you will be sent reasons as to why.

     

    Acceptance - 4

    Once your lore is accepted, it will be looked over to see if a guide is required. If you are submitting a magic, creature, or something else that is playable, you will likely need to write a guide (also covered in the aforementioned lore sub guides). Whether or not you need a guide will be told to you by the person who accepts your lore. 

     

    Activity Trial - 5

    If you submit the guide and it is approved, your lore will then be placed on an activity trial. This lasts 3-6 months and is entirely a background observation by ST Management to see how well spread the lore is, and how it performs in practice. There is no notification of the deadline end. 

     

    Maintenance - 6

    Once your activity trial has ended, your lore enters a period of continued maintenance where it is checked up on periodically by ST to make sure the lore is still functioning properly and active. This period lasts indefinitely. 

     

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    Mysticism Amendment - Spiriting

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    Amendments/Additions implemented into main lore post. 

     

    -Specified ghostly/spectral undead rather than undead-undead in regards to the killing blow.

    -changed turns to emotes.

    -clarified summoned objects are dispelled by aurum.

    -removed line regarding blessed objects ignoring restricted strength on ghostly appendages.

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