Pampo or edmund

[GrimBeard 46]

*As you walk down the streets of AL Khzar you notice a smal poster and quill. you read it and it says*

Pampo was one of orens first king and a Damn good one. He loved his small folk and would tour orens streets.

Edmund is the curent king. Hes fair but doesnt show because he hardly talks to people. His towns slowy die out. But yet he devotes hours to towns,he needs to re think the goverment but yet is a fair man

*you notice the Ink and quil it says*

Write down wheter you would have Pampo or edmund! its ok to say tis not treason unless edmund dosent want free speach!

[Lawrence Berell 226]

Um... Dan was the first...

[Agnub 605]

Um... Dan was the first...

Wrong, Horan or w/e his name was.

[awesumninja123 54]

*takes out quil and writes*

Pampo. Although Edmund was a fine king and a partially genorous one too, he was the cause of the fall of Alstion.

[Thatpyrodude 2008]

*pulls out his quill and begins to write*

Pampo, Edmund was the reason my beautiful city is in ruins. Dam you Edmund.

[argonian 14254]

*Grabs parchment and begins to write on it*

Pampo, Edmund is destroying Oren.

[Ivrae 30]

* Walking through the streets, Ivrae notices a parchment and after carefully reading it, writes down the word Edmund Sheffield and decides to hang another notice beside it*

For those who seek Knowledge of a Kingdom - King's Advisor Ivrae.

While it saddens me greatly to see that people have such a narrow sight as to why things happen within our Kingdom and seem to fall on our King's lap for blame, I believe that even they deserve the right to at least attempt to open their mind and learn. However terrible it may be that the North has fallen and cities have been lost, people seem to have no knowledge of how the kingdom actually works. The King, myself, and our advisors are currently rebuilding an unfinished Kingdom that Perea left behind, the Kingdom is low on funds, and guards are hard to keep happy without an Income, buildings are hard to build without funds, coming to the aid of those in need is hard when a small group of guards currently having their ranks rebuilt from the ground up are busy being retrained.

As the King's advisor I'm sure my words will fall on deaf ears who assume I am some sort of consort to him. But I whole heartedly desire nothing more than to see the Kingdom restored to it's former glory and have done everything within my power to aid in this. I've hired 4 additional advisors to aid me and the King and they've all done phenomenal jobs in developing not only the Great city of Al'khazar but the Kingdom of Oren as a whole.

So, you expect aid from an army? Then do not complain when you are given a small tax to ensure it is armed and supplied. You expect Homes within our protection? Then learn to understand that houses do not appear out of thin air, architects are needed, land is needed, as are funds and materials, and most of all time.

Those of you who think we somehow desire to just let your cities fall ache my very heart with your hatred. Oren is a beautiful and hearty nation that should never fall should but one man defend it, and one man is always weak, the strength in humans is that in our honor and respect for one another. You wish to insult your King who does nothing but put as much effort into aiding his people as best as he can.

While I'm sure you think I've done nothing thus far but attempt to make King Edmund seem like the best King ever, he is not. But this is because he is a human like the rest of us, we are flawed. None of us are perfect, Pampo was a great King also, but he did not have the issues we have today, Edmund's shoulders bear a somewhat larger weight and although you will always be welcome to your freedom of speech within Oren, I plea that you look past things he cannot control and respect him for what he has done for our nation, if you can do nothing more to aid us, all we ask is respect.

[MartinDaMartian 62]

*Picks up quill*

I liked Pampo better he was very social i could say hi to him and he would reply but when i try greeting edmund he says nothing this is one reason i liked Pampo better than Edmund and also Pampo has always watched over all parts of Oren including the northern parts like Alistion and Snowy Fields but Edmund seems to mainly focus on just staying in Al'Khazar don't take this this as an insult this is just my opinion

[argonian 14254]

*Sends Ivrae a letter*

The King cares more for Alkhazar than Oren. He never sends men when other cities need them and instead he lets them get fat sitting in Alkhazar doing nothing. His mind is set on expanding Alkhazar when it should be on trying to protect the North, the most vulnerable part of Oren from the Undead. He doesn't care if other towns and cities get destroyed as long as Alkhazar is fine. He might as well just be the mayor of Alkhazar instead of the King of Oren. He is a very nice man but only to those that live in or near Alkhazar. He lets everyone else out to dry but he makes people think he wants to help.

OOC: By the way, all my letters in this thread were anonymous because I never mentioned who I was in them.

[GrimBeard 46]

*takes out quill*

I loved Pampo he would talk to us,fight with us, and die with us.

I respect Edmund as Pampos choice but other than that no go

[Ivrae 30]

If you're truly convinced enough to believe that because the army isn't present for a single fight that we've somehow decided to throw away land and it's people and have no desire to aid anywhere but Alk'hazar, they you are as arrogant as you are foolish. The army is small, and poorly funded due to our decision to keep the people of Oren happy and reconsider taxing them, the King rides with his army whenever he can and even I come to the aid of Oren when it is needed.

The King may not be a publicly open to people as Pampo, this is because he is always busy, busy building, busy creating laws, busy helping people setup new towns, busy guiding his advisors when I'm not around, busy aiding the military, he's always very busy. Pampo did not have the problems we have today. The undead were not on our doorstep. There was much less need for a constant and sizable army, the population was small, and people did not seek the luxuries of Alk'hazar or Oren as rapidly as they do today. Pampo had his own personal funds for the army and left none to aid King Edmund. We are starting essentially from scratch and a nation HAS to begin from it's capital, Alstion is not lost and we will see it restored, while I grieve for snowy fields, losses are not entirely preventable, we are mortals as you are. Nothing more, you are so ready to point a finger instead of asking how you can aid our nation that you throw away the knowledge I seek to give, and only look at a shallow vision of your surroundings.

For now I grow tired of trying to become a teacher and have further duties to aid in the expansion of our army that you expect to come to your aid, and will not be replying to letters further, you may seek me out in person if your curiosity to learn of a way to help finally grasps hold of you.

[argonian 14254]

We are not starting from scratch. We have less money but we have more ways of making it. Edmund should be using his funds to build forts to protect Oren and more importantly to him Alkhazar but instead he uses it to build houses. He shouldn't care if people don't want to be taxed because then the army will be stronger and I'm sure if the people thought about it they would prefer to live much longer and be poorer than being richer and live short lives. And without taxes people only have to earn enough money to buy a house and then they don't need much of an income after that but with taxes people will always need a job so Oren will have more shops, farms and overall be a better community.

OOC: Again this letter is anonymous. My letters are all anonymous unless I include my name at the bottom of the letter.

[Ivrae 30]

We are not starting from scratch. We have less money but we have more ways of making it. Edmund should be using his funds to build forts to protect Oren and more importantly to him Alkhazar but instead he uses it to build houses. He shouldn't care if people don't want to be taxed because then the army will be stronger and I'm sure if the people thought about it they would prefer to live much longer and be poorer than being richer and live short lives. And without taxes people only have to earn enough money to buy a house and then they don't need much of an income after that but with taxes people will always need a job so Oren will have more shops, farms and overall be a better community.

OOC: Again this letter is anonymous. My letters are all anonymous unless I include my name at the bottom of the letter.

OOC: Thank god you're not in a political role because you seem to have just ignored everything I've said and made up your own random ideas of the way a kingdom should be run, we have no money lets build forts that will use up the last bit of our money and generate zero funds and require more defense, great idea!

[argonian 14254]

OOC: Thank god you're not in a political role because you seem to have just ignored everything I've said and made up your own random ideas of the way a kingdom should be run, we have no money lets build forts that will use up the last bit of our money and generate zero funds and require more defense, great idea!

OOC: Taxes, enough said. With taxes you would be earning much more than double what you are getting now maybe even 10x.

[Ivrae 30]

OOC: Taxes, enough said. With taxes you would be earning much more than double what you are getting now maybe even 10x.

OOC: I actually lol'd when Vardak read out your quote in TS right after I got like 3 complaints about the current and very light tax system, you know how much money taxing all the shops in Alk'hazar would make per week? about 3k, taxing the towns under Oren's protection and the shops? About 10k if were lucky and even the 10k is a big stretch, you seem to think taxes are the solution to everything and not about how they adversely affect people in their game style, many people would move into the wilds simply to avoid a tax and sell off their shop, people mainly gather things they need and buy cheap things like food. Plenty of shops are automated and wont be able to pay taxes very well without some kind of plugin and we cant just grab one out of thin air just because we would need one, things don't happen magically over night because we want them too, if you think a tax is a perfect solution, then create a flawless way to tax every shop, and city within Oren and show it to me.