Explorations In Quintissentiality

[Birdwhisperer 1174]

I value Birdwhisperer. -Said any respectable elven player ever.

 

She's a national treasure.

Aw shucks, guys.

 

She didn't answer the question though.

Fine, fine... "To be an elf is to value purity, family, and nature."*

[Baconthief 682]

 

3. Be Bisexual and defy the law a lot (Dark elves)

 

 

Dark Elves are all about strong powerful emotion. This can be anger, hate, rage, love, and passion. Although this does not mean you're all bisexual elves, in fact you can be an extremely conservative dark elf and still be playing the race correctly. It's about powerful emotions, which the people playing bi elves get this from.

 

They're not popular with the other races, and many would rather it be that way. Dark elves are fiercly independent. They're seen as overly proud, clannish, ruthless, and even cruel. However as a culture they value loyalty. honor, and family above all else. The physical is their strength among the elves.

 

High elves are nearly as arrogant as the dark elves, if not moreso. You look down on everyone who is different than yourself. The mind is their strength among elves.

 

Wood elves are the least xenophobic among the elves. If a dark elf thinks a human as an animal and a high elf sees it as a retarded child, then a wood elf sees all beings as their best friend. Their strength among the elves is love and compassion.

 

That is just my personal view on what these races should be played as

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

I was mostly joking in my previous post. I feel like I need to give kudos to the high Elves as they've made an IC culture the right way, by ic influence and example, not shoving lore threads down our throats.

That's what I was trying to do with lenniel and the wood elves when I created it and I think it worked to an extent, I see more druidic tanned wood elves running around these days

[__WaterFox__ 636]

Personally I believe that any elf should take a pasive-aggresive stance on things and uphold the the high elven belief of progress.Define progress as you wish

[Elindor 666]

To watch centuries of a human world of anger and hate drift by from behind tired eyes, knowing that the end of your infertile days is likewise the end of ancestral millennia.

[Baconthief 682]

When I was a prince of malinor long ago and still had the time to actively do things I was researching and looking into different fantasy archtypes for the subraces and then thinking how I could implement them. Since lotc is a pooling of different lores from different fantasy worlds (Ex. Oren's empire resembling game of thrones) then people too draw their elven perspective from different fantasy lores

 

Dark Elf:

Drow: Drow are inherently evil. Cave dwellers. They shun the light. They're an incredibly racist and xenophobic society. They value powerful emotions. They're a religious, militaristic, matriarchal society. Their society is run by a series of houses. Cruel(Had slaves)

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Drow

 

Dunmer(Elder scrolls dark elf):

 

Hardened warriors(because of their environment.). Incredibly racist and xenophobic (Where TES high elves see a human as a retarded child, dumner would see a human as an animal or not even alive). They're cruel and don't show compassion to non dark elves(slaves). They're very proud and quite arrogant. Extremely religious (weather is be to the deadra, ancestors, or the three). Society run by a system of houses. However, because of their environment they're forced to work together, creating strong family bonds and gravity for life(at least what they considered as life)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBnatzluzNE

 

Everquest:

 

Strong loyal elf warriors. Were originally white-elf warriors who were reshaped by gods.

http://everquestnext.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Elf

 

Warhammer: Similar to drow. Evil

 

Conclusion: Dark Elves are proud, clannish, and independent. They're hard to befriend and can be xenophobic, yet if you do befriend them they make strong and loyal allies. They're warriors and are more readily jump into battle than other elves. (We cannot make them inherently evil since that was the purpose of the Mori.) These dark elves are the apex of morally greyness. In my view there is more justification for them to be more "Racist" than the high elves. Given their tendency to be incredibly arrogant in other fantasy settings and their history in lotc with the other races.

 

High Elf

Lord of the rings:

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Category:High_Elves

Wise and intelligent. All considerer the races of men and dwarves at lesser; however the degree depends from group to group. Society run by king and or queen. (Rivendell elves show a more liberal view, yet still tend to see themselves above another. The rest are just as racist as in the hobbit)

 

Altemer (Elder scrolls)

 

Isolationists. Arrogant. Highly intelligent. Predisposed to magic. Strong navy. Society run by a king and or queen. Religious(Towards holy deities)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjSHw_4KeY8

 

Golden Elves/Sun elf

 

Believe they're the chosen of a deity to protect ancient elven traditions(Arrogance).  Sun elves can be incredibly prejudiced, to the point of some even refusing to aid a dying human if it mildly inconveniences them. Less amiable to fellow elves, believing them uncivilized. Predisposed to magic. Monarch system

 

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_elf

 

Conclusion: High Elves are proper and noble, and are culturally predisposed to see themselves above everyone. They embrace magic and intellect. They tend to kept to themselves over meddling in the affairs of men

 

Wood Elves

 

Bosmer (elder scrolls)

 

Strong affinity of life and nature. Bound by religion not to harm the forest, even for sustenance(Thus they're pure carnivores.) They're are tribal and more disorganized(compared to their fellow elf). At times they show more animosity to their fellow elf than to other races.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98_5vQn36ms

 

Woodelves (D&D)

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_elf

 

Calm and level-headed. No organized society at all, not wishing for organized government to interfere with personal freedoms( So they are more predisposed to live among men and other elves, or wanderers/adventurers). To a wood elf, a wizard's are little different from the mason's castle walls or the tiller's plow - a means of controlling the natural world, which is contrary to the common ethic of living in harmony with nature rather than trying to dominate it that so many wood elves espouse(As wood elves live among the wild). Religion focused on nature. They're more xenophobic of other elves, than humans/dwarves.

 

 

Conslusion: Wood Elves are joyous and happy creatures. They're more prone to embrace nature than any other elf on lotc. They care deeply for all life, even their foe's. Will often accuse other elves of their arrogance or disinterest in living with the natural world.

 

They're the glue that keeps a darkie and snarkie working together instead of killing each other.

Edit: The darkie killing the snarkie

 

Personally I believe that any elf should take a pasive-aggresive stance on things and uphold the the high elven belief of progress.Define progress as you wish.

I would say if you were an unprogressed character who is a liberal and not an arrogant elf, you're playing an elf wrong (unless it's a wood elf). Most elves in fantasy care little for anyone that is not their own kind.

 

Again though, the purpose of lotc is to play as you want, not what someone else tells you to. If you don't want to be a tree hugging hippie-elf then don't, be a Drow warrior or a super racist High-Elf inquisitor. This game is about being what you want, which with the elves there is an enormous amount of interpretations (Much more than human, orc, and dwarf. Infact the incredible diversity of elves causes a great deal of problems with people cooperating and working together to make elf societies. IE the druid elves won't help a elf who makes his home out of stone and cuts seven trees down because #civilization)

[PtahWithin 1320]

When I was a prince of malinor long ago and still had the time to actively do things I was researching and looking into different fantasy archtypes for the subraces and then thinking how I could implement them. Since lotc is a pooling of different lores from different fantasy worlds (Ex. Oren's empire resembling game of thrones) then people too draw their elven perspective from different fantasy lores

 

Dark Elf:

Drow: Drow are inherently evil. Cave dwellers. They shun the light. They're an incredibly racist and xenophobic society. They value powerful emotions. They're a religious, militaristic, matriarchal society. Their society is run by a series of houses. Cruel(Had slaves)

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Drow

 

Dunmer(Elder scrolls dark elf):

 

Hardened warriors(because of their environment.). Incredibly racist and xenophobic (Where TES high elves see a human as a retarded child, dumner would see a human as an animal or not even alive). They're cruel and don't show compassion to non dark elves(slaves). They're very proud and quite arrogant. Extremely religious (weather is be to the deadra, ancestors, or the three). Society run by a system of houses. However, because of their environment they're forced to work together, creating strong family bonds and gravity for life(at least what they considered as life)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBnatzluzNE

 

Everquest:

 

Strong loyal elf warriors. Were originally white-elf warriors who were reshaped by gods.

http://everquestnext.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Elf

 

Warhammer: Similar to drow. Evil

 

Conclusion: Dark Elves are proud, clannish, and independent. They're hard to befriend and can be xenophobic, yet if you do befriend them they make strong and loyal allies. They're warriors and are more readily jump into battle than other elves. (We cannot make them inherently evil since that was the purpose of the Mori.) These dark elves are the apex of morally greyness. In my view there is more justification for them to be more "Racist" than the high elves. Given their tendency to be incredibly arrogant in other fantasy settings and their history in lotc with the other races.

 

High Elf

Lord of the rings:

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Category:High_Elves

Wise and intelligent. All considerer the races of men and dwarves at lesser; however the degree depends from group to group. Society run by king and or queen. (Rivendell elves show a more liberal view, yet still tend to see themselves above another. The rest are just as racist as in the hobbit)

 

Altemer (Elder scrolls)

 

Isolationists. Arrogant. Highly intelligent. Predisposed to magic. Strong navy. Society run by a king and or queen. Religious(Towards holy deities)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjSHw_4KeY8

 

Golden Elves/Sun elf

 

Believe they're the chosen of a deity to protect ancient elven traditions(Arrogance).  Sun elves can be incredibly prejudiced, to the point of some even refusing to aid a dying human if it mildly inconveniences them. Less amiable to fellow elves, believing them uncivilized. Predisposed to magic. Monarch system

 

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_elf

 

Conclusion: High Elves are proper and noble, and are culturally predisposed to see themselves above everyone. They embrace magic and intellect. They tend to kept to themselves over meddling in the affairs of men

 

Wood Elves

 

Bosmer (elder scrolls)

 

Strong affinity of life and nature. Bound by religion not to harm the forest, even for sustenance(Thus they're pure carnivores.) They're are tribal and more disorganized(compared to their fellow elf). At times they show more animosity to their fellow elf than to other races.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98_5vQn36ms

 

Woodelves (D&D)

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_elf

 

Calm and level-headed. No organized society at all, not wishing for organized government to interfere with personal freedoms( So they are more predisposed to live among men and other elves, or wanderers/adventurers). To a wood elf, a wizard's are little different from the mason's castle walls or the tiller's plow - a means of controlling the natural world, which is contrary to the common ethic of living in harmony with nature rather than trying to dominate it that so many wood elves espouse(As wood elves live among the wild). Religion focused on nature. They're more xenophobic of other elves, than humans/dwarves.

 

 

Conslusion: Wood Elves are joyous and happy creatures. They're more prone to embrace nature than any other elf on lotc. They care deeply for all life, even their foe's. Will often accuse other elves of their arrogance or disinterest in living with the natural world.

 

They're the glue that keeps a darkie and snarkie working together instead of killing each other.

Edit: The darkie killing the snarkie

 

I would say if you were an unprogressed character who is a liberal and not an arrogant elf, you're playing an elf wrong (unless it's a wood elf). Most elves in fantasy care little for anyone that is not their own kind.

 

Again though, the purpose of lotc is to play as you want, not what someone else tells you to. If you don't want to be a tree hugging hippie-elf then don't, be a Drow warrior or a super racist High-Elf inquisitor. This game is about being what you want, which with the elves there is an enormous amount of interpretations (Much more than human, orc, and dwarf. Infact the incredible diversity of elves causes a great deal of problems with people cooperating and working together to make elf societies. IE the druid elves won't help a elf who makes his home out of stone and cuts seven trees down because #civilization)

 

This clearly explains the tragedy of the elven race. A patchwork of books and games, all in conflict with each other. At least in the humans it is not so difficult to marry the worlds of the Witcher and Game of Thrones.

[Baconthief 682]

This clearly explains the tragedy of the elven race. A patchwork of books and games, all in conflict with each other. At least in the humans it is not so difficult to marry the worlds of the Witcher and Game of Thrones.

I do agree a great deal, the elven identity is so varied. A GOT human can be fast friends with a witcher human, because they share a great deal of similarities at their foundation. Yet does a thalmor and the stereotypical nature elf have anything in common, absolutely not. For elves you got so much intense diversity among the race through personal perception. You got your peace loving nature elves, your racist thalmor, your power hungry Drow and they would hate one another by nature. It does not work as smoothly as the other races

 

It's quite sad the elves cannot agree on one uniform culture, each subrace is so different that they can be an entirely new race on their own. And even within the subrace you have great differences. You have your wise LOTR high elf fighting the thalmor high elf. You've your cave loving darkie fighting a no good moon loving night elf. Your druidic aspect wood elf conflicting with the more violent whitcher wood elf.

 

You can try to create a uniform culture, but will people want to play it? I don't think they would abandon their own personal vision to take on someone elses'. If someone doesn't want to be a nature elf, they won't. If someone doesn't want to be a violent, xenophobic, patriotic elf they simply won't. If someone wants to play Drizzt, they will. If someone wants to play High Inquisitor Wilbur doyle, slayer of the impure cows, they will. If someone wants to play a life loving happy elf, they will. Pre-text lore won't stop them from playing as they wish, and there is a lot of conflicting wishes with the elves.

 

Yet no matter what, if you play an elf, keep in mind you're playing something 20x more intelligent than yourself. This is hella hard to emulate. The only group I feel who have established this100% are the high elves. So elves, stop acting like morons.

 

 

Once my semester is over I'll be lending what help I can, but I am no longer as free as I used to be to do such things. This change is up to you guys, I am not able to help the elven race anymore #Life

[zaezae 1098]

Welp, too bad I play a heavily indoctrinated darkie. Shame, as I was looking forward to elven culture, but hey, that's how the cookie crumbled. 

[Baconthief 682]

Welp, too bad I play a heavily indoctrinated darkie. Shame, as I was looking forward to elven culture, but hey, that's how the cookie crumbled. 

In my opinion the divisions are too deep and they cannot be mended. Darkies, snarkies, and barkies would never agree, willingly, to the same leader or societal hierarchy.  Play your elf as you wish, just make sure you do it well.

 

Remember that regardless of how you rp your elf out, your character is 20x more intelligent than you, so ensure your elf is not acting like an idiot or acting with average intelligence. Really the only exception to this rule is the quick to act darkie, who really should act extremely risky in youth.

 

(Super darkies are the best, right on my righteous hombre \m/)

[zaezae 1098]

Yeah, I agree. I sorta have seen the Mali as a broken society. I'll keep the intelligence thing in mind though. Still, being uneducated is uneducated. 

 

Though, playing a malleable child, it is /really/ difficult to manage the nature of Mali peoples and the nature of children and how their entire personality can be shaped by their environment. 

[Supremacy 3361]

]n my opinion the divisions are too deep and they cannot be mended.

 

 

Meanwhile, in Haelun'or, the dark elves move in with the high elves.

[Stag 3230]

Meanwhile, in Haelun'or, the dark elves move in with the high elves.

 

 

 

+Kha.

 

Point is you CAN have these different types of fantasy based elves that CAN work well together. People are inspired by different things and that shows in who they play their character. If we were all doing the same thing I would assume we would all collectively get bored.

[Baconthief 682]

Well I've not been online since my semester started, with little spurts of activity every now and then XD Forgive me for my ignorance.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Meanwhile, in Haelun'or, the dark elves move in with the high elves.

 

+Kha.

 

Point is you CAN have these different types of fantasy based elves that CAN work well together. People are inspired by different things and that shows in who they play their character. If we were all doing the same thing I would assume we would all collectively get bored.

Should've taken in the wood elves too. #AldmeriDominion