[Feedback] Killer Clerics

[Jistuma 1996]

From my speaks with the Clerical order, killing mortals is not allowed by any means, even with non magic. What I heard was that if you used war cleric to even harm a mortal, they would lose the magic instantly, but if they attacked a mortal without magic, they would stop progressing in the magic, and be hunted down by the clerical order.

And if you see a cleric kill a mortal IC, go talk to the higher ups.

As was said in other threads, Cleric magic is a holy magic, it's to do good, not what a character considers good, but what the aengul considers good. In this sense, the character's thinking has nothing to do with the consequences, they kill a mortal, they stop progressing, and if they keep doing it, don't repent, or something, the other clerics will know about it, and be able to remove their powers.

[Demotheus 651]

Jade, I said I didn't know if it made them lose their powers or not. That kind of leaves a question unanswered.

 

 

It only sums it up if you're incapable of thinking of any solution to said RP situation other than extinguishing their life. The Cleric can still righteously beat the crap out of them, they just can't commit the greatest sin a mortal can commit against another mortal against them using the demigod-given powers they have been given for the explicit purpose of helping and healing their fellow man.

Also, why would you get a healer to rescue your kidnapped daughter in the first place?

Because the Clerics have been known to hunt necromancers and what not in the past, it's somewhat feasible. 

[Lago 2572]

They can definitely use their magic on Wraiths. Flesh and blood necromancers they should IMO, but that one's controversial.

[Jistuma 1996]

Because the Clerics have been known to hunt necromancers and what not in the past, it's somewhat feasible.

I always assumed necromancers were considered dark beings by Tahariae, until I saw clerics being friends with known necromancers.

Also, you can't really kill someone with healing magic, unless it's like corrupted people. OOC'ly corrupted people aren't dark beings, IC I guess they might think otherwise, and aengul thinking goes 50/50 I guess? If it's a child that is corrupted, most likely the cleric's job would be to uncorrupt the child, if not possible to do that, I don't believe they would kill the child.

[Lago 2572]

I always assumed necromancers were considered dark beings by Tahariae, until I saw clerics being friends with known necromancers.

 

Not really sure how to respond to that. Kind of like an Ascended going to Iblees's Christmas party.

[Jistuma 1996]

Morally corrupted aren't dark beings, no. Magically corrupted, depends how much. The Scourgeborn was definitely in the Dark Beings camp.

Stop changing your posts!

Also, I guess that makes sense, Scourge borns would be like the creature they would be allowed to kill, but shouldn't.

[Lago 2572]

Pretty much all my posts are in varying degrees of flux for a few minutes after they're posted. That's why it's always wise to quote 'em. Always wise to quote any post you directly reply to, come to think of it.

Anyway, I'm sure one of the Clerical experts will turn up soon enough to clear up what happens to clerical powers when they kill, what they can kill and under what circumstances they can kill it.

Clerics are physically capable of killing, the question is how it affects their powers.

[MamaBearJade 2090]

Pretty much all my posts are in varying degrees of flux for a few minutes after they're posted. That's why it's always wise to quote 'em. Always wise to quote any post you directly reply to, come to think of it.

Anyway, I'm sure one of the Clerical experts will turn up soon enough to clear up what happens to clerical powers when they kill, what they can kill and under what circumstances they can kill it.

Clerics are physically capable of killing, the question is how it affects their powers.

Wardog has made his notes clear on what they can and cant kill.

Plainly put, there is no consequences to killing unless caught by the order.

UNLESS using their magic to kill...

[Agith 224]

Mmhm. The magic itself cannot be removed unless done so by the order. However the order doesn't promote senseless killing. That will get you a boot , however justified killing is a bit more tolerated since it's typically for a reason which the order deems acceptable (Once more I cite killing a bandit who attacked you, to ensure he doesn't then go on to kill others)

[The Fact Core 511]

Why do we even kill? Everyone can defend himself and killing...uhm yeah, killing really is a last resort thing. Clerics are meant to be the awesome healers, the good side. I believe that rply is there even a rule that says that they never kill (unless the evil of course), if not...add it?

 

Don't kill random peepz, it makes no sense anyways.

[dandan1350 479]

Pretty much all my posts are in varying degrees of flux for a few minutes after they're posted. That's why it's always wise to quote 'em. Always wise to quote any post you directly reply to, come to think of it.

Anyway, I'm sure one of the Clerical experts will turn up soon enough to clear up what happens to clerical powers when they kill, what they can kill and under what circumstances they can kill it.

Clerics are physically capable of killing, the question is how it affects their powers.

 

Upon striking down with the magic given to a cleric for use against impure its considered the greatest crime within the clerical order to use such magic against the mortal man. As Wardog worded it we're divine agents and should not use the aenguls power to kill, doing such stops all immediate progressing of your magic and Tahariae will most likely speak out to the prophet or an Itharel about the actions of said cleric which will resort to them being stripped off their magic and their soul scarred permanently. 

 

Using no magic to kill while frowned upon is apparently allowed by Tahariae. However the doctrine taught by myself as an Itharel does not allow anyone to slay people unless it is the final choice that is possible. Killing someone if another cleric gets wind of it will against resort to a long boring trial, bla, bla, bla, if found guilty power stripped. 

 

Basically what happens to magic if you kill with it - Stops progressing

 

Kill with mortal means - Stays on.

[Jistuma 1996]

You can't kill with priest healing, but healers go around killing. How do the clerics deal with that?

[Cyndikate 2303]

I agree with Jade on this one. If clerics are allowed to kill, why shouldn't priests.

[dandan1350 479]

Well if you take life you don't deserve to be able to give life. To kill as a priest healer is the same punishment of any other cleric.

[Lago 2572]

I agree with Jade on this one. If clerics are allowed to kill, why shouldn't priests.

 

If you mean this: http://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/107792-priest-healing/ it's because they're two different things and that one specifies that you don't kill. If you mean something else then you'll have to specify.