Let's Make A Utopia!

[Fitermon 668]

Hello, LotC! You are some of the brightest (dullest), most intelligent (pathetic), and useful (helpless) minds in the world! The instructions are simple, we're making a Utopia due to my Ethics and Politics Class reading Plato's "The Republic." So, it's simple! If you have an idea, copy one of the questions for the Utopia, then post your idea! FMs and whatnot, feel free to edit anything if you feel if it is too controversial and stuff.

 

 

Here's the guidelines - 

 

I. Scope
     1. Would your utopia be a global utopia?
          A. If not, would it be a nation state? A bioregion? A city? An eco-village
               or other type of intentional community? If none of the above, what?

II. Goals & Values
     1. What would be the fundamental values of your utopia?
     2. What would be its goals?
     3. Would individuals choose their own goals and values, or would their goals
          and values be those of your utopian ideology?



III. Members/Citizens
     1. If your utopia was less than global, what would be the characteristics of
          its population?
     2. Would it be open to all, or would you select its members?
          A. If you’d select members, how and why would you do so?
          B. What would be the criteria for membership?
     3. If your utopia was small in size, would you find the physical site or the
               community members first?
          A. Why?
     4. What would be the rights of the members of your utopia?
     5. What would be the duties of the members?
     6. Would there be social stratification (e.g., owners and renters, different roles
          for males and females) in your utopia?
     7. If there would be social stratification, what roles would different classes of individuals play?
          A. Why?



IV. Children & Education
     1. Would the number of children per parent be limited in your utopia?
          A. If so, to how many children?
          B. Why?
     2. Would children live with their parents?
          A. If not, what would be their living arrangements?
     3. What rights would children have?
     4. Would restrictions be placed on children’s activities?
          A. If so, what restrictions?
     5. How would children be educated?
          A. Who would be the educators?
          B. What rights would children have in deciding what they learned?
     6. Would your utopia feature sex education of children?
          A. If so, who would conduct it?
     7. Would the traditional higher education system be retained, modified,
               or discarded?
          A. If modified, how?
          B. If discarded, how would your utopia conduct higher education?



V. Power & Politics
     1. Would your utopia be based on any particular political theory?
          A. If so, what?
          B. And why?
     2. What form of social and political organization would your utopia have?
          A. Would it be based on political authority, with some giving orders and
               others obeying them in a vertical, hierarchical structure, as at present?
          B. Or would it be based on voluntary cooperation in a horizontal,
               noncoercive structure?
     3. What would your decision-making process(es) be?
     4. Would you have a constitution, other written agreement(s), or verbal
          agreements?
     5. How would officials or coordinators be selected?
     6. How would you deal with abuse of authority by officials or coordinators?



VI. Economics, Work, and Leisure
     1. How would production and distribution be organized in your utopia?
     2. Would your utopia retain the use of money?
          A. If not, would there be a means of exchange?
               a. If so, what?
     3. How would work be compensated?
          A. Would everyone receive equal compensation for hours worked?
          B. Would those who do dangerous or unpleasant work receive extra
               compensation or work fewer hours than those doing pleasant work?
          C. Would access to community goods and services be based solely on
                    need or want, and not connected to work?
               a. If so, given present social conditioning, how would you prevent
                    parasitism?
     4. How would people determine what jobs they do?
     5. Who would do economic planning?
          A. How—what would be the process?
     6. Would your utopia have sustainable economics (that is, economic processes
               that do not deplete or destroy unrenewable natural resources)?
          A. If so, how would your sustainable system differ from the current system?
          B. If so, how would you transition from the current economic system to a
               sustainable system?
     7. Would your utopia be based on private property? Common ownership?
               Or a combination of the two?
          A. If the latter, what would that combination be?
     8. How many hours per day would your utopians work?
     9. Would the standard of living in your utopia be poverty level (voluntary simplicity),
          middle class, or high on the hog?
    10. Would you set aside time for play and creative pursuits?
          A. How important would such time be in comparison with work time?



VII. Sex, Sex Roles, & Gender Differences
     1. Would men and women live together in your utopia, or do you envision a
          sexually separatist utopia?
     A. If so, why?
     B. And how would you achieve it?
     2. Would the roles of women and men vary in your utopia?
          A. If so, how?
     3. Would the nuclear family be retained?
          A. If not, what would replace it?
     4. Would marriage be retained?
          A. If so, who would conduct the ceremonies?
          B. Would married people have any rights or obligations beyond those of
               single people or those in alternative relationships?
          C. Would gay marriages be recognized?
     5. Would “alternative” relationships (gay/lesbian, bi, polyamorous, etc.) be
               prohibited, discouraged, tolerated, or encouraged?
          A. If only some forms of relationships would be discouraged, tolerated,
               or encouraged, which ones would they be, and why?
     6. Would your utopia encourage sexual freedom?
     7. Would women and men be equally free sexually?
     8. Would abortion be available on demand?
          A. Would men have rights in making this decision?
          B. If so, whose decision would be final?
          C. If abortion was not available on demand, what criteria would be used
                    in determining eligibility for abortion?
               a. And who would make the final decision?
     9. How would your utopia deal with sexually transmitted diseases?
    10. What would be the attitude toward youthful sexual experimentation?
    11. Would your utopia address problems of sexual jealousy and possessiveness
               when they arise?
          A. If so, would it do so openly (publicly)?
               a. Why would you choose to do this publicly?
          B. Or would such problems be dealt with privately?
               a. Why would you choose to do this privately?
          C. In either case, what procedure(s) would be used?
    12. Would your utopia ban, tolerate, or encourage  public nudity?
          A. If you’d ban it, why would you do so?
          B. If your utopia would tolerate nudity, would it be acceptable in all places
                    and at all times?
               a. Why?
          C. If nudity would not be acceptable in all places and at all times, what
                    restrictions would you place on it?
               a. Why?
          D. If you’d encourage public nudity, why would you do so?
    13. Would any kinds of sexual relations be banned in your utopia?
          A. If so, what kinds?
          B. Why?



VIII. Science & Technology
     1. Would your utopia encourage scientific research?
          A. If yes, would it be in all fields?
          B. If not in all fields, in which fields would research be encouraged and in
                    which would it be discouraged?
               a. Why?
     2. Would technological development be encouraged in all areas?
          A. If not, which technologies would be encouraged and which discouraged?
               a. Why?
     3. Would your utopia abandon any technologies?
          A. If so, which ones?
           B. Why?
     4. What would be the energy sources to drive your utopia?
          A. Why would you use these particular energy sources?
     5. Would any energy sources be banned?
          A. If so, which ones?
          B. Why?
     6. What if any role would the new reproductive technologies have?
          A. Who, if anyone, would have access to these technologies?
          B. Would genetic manipulation be permitted in order to choose the sex
               of offspring?
          C. Would genetic manipulation be permitted in order to choose other
                    characteristics?
               a. If so, which characteristics?
               b. And why?
     7. Would cloning be permitted in your utopia?
          A. If so, who would be allowed to do it?
          B. And for what purposes?
     8. Would your utopia allow life-extension techniques?
          A. If so, would you attempt to extend life indefinitely?
               a. If so, why?
               b. If not, why not?
          B. If life extension techniques were available, who would have access to them?
     9. Would your utopia explore outer space or confine itself to the Earth?
    10. How would your utopia deal with the residues of present society, such as
          nuclear and toxic waste?



IX. Religion
     1. Would there be a division between religion and other social and political
               institutions in your utopia?
          A. If so, why?
          B. If not, why not?
     2. Would your utopia have a single religion?
          A. If so, what would it be?
          B. Why?
     3. Would your utopia have no religion?
          A. Why?
     4. Would your utopia have many religions?
          A. If so, would you place any restrictions on the types of religion?
          B. Why?
          C. How would you deal with religious strife?
     5. How would you deal with cults and gurus?
     6. Would your utopia have rituals and celebrations?
          A. If so, what would they be?
     7. Would there be religious ceremonies concerning birth, death, marriage,
               rites of passage, etc.?
     8. Would religion be integrated into daily life?
          A. If so, how?
     9. What would be the relationship, if any, between sex and religion?
    10. Would there be a religious hierarchy?
          A. If so, how would religious leaders be selected?
    11. What would be the relationship of religion to science?
    12. Would psychoactive substances have any role in religion in your utopia?
          A. If so, which substances?
          B. What would be their role?



X. The Arts
     1. What would be  the role of the arts in your utopia?
     2. Would your utopia distinguish between art and life?
          A. If so, how?
     3. Would your utopia encourage participation in the arts?
          A. If so, who would be encouraged?
          B. And how?
     4. Would you distinguish between “mere entertainment” and “serious art”?
          A. If so, what would be the purpose of each?
          B. How would you distinguish between them?
          C. And who would make the distinction?
     5. Would you make a distinction between amateur and professional artists?
          A. If so, why?
          B. What would be the ramifications of this distinction?
     6. Would professional artists (musicians, dancers, et al.) pursue their creative
               efforts full time, with the rest of the community supporting them?
          A. If so, who would determine who would receive public support?
     7. Would there be any censorship of art in your utopia?
          A. If so, what would be censored?
          B. And who would do the censoring?



XI. The Media
     1. What types of media would exist in your utopia?
     2. Who would control the media?
     3. Who would own the media?
     4. Would there be any censorship of the media?
          A. If so, what would be censored?
          B. Why?
          C. And who would do the censoring?
     5. Would participation in the media be open to all?
          A. If not, why not?
          B. If so, how would this be achieved?
     6. Would intellectual property be recognized in your utopia?
          A. If so, how?



XII. The Physical
     1. What would be the architecture of your utopia?
          A. What materials and techniques would be used in building construction?
               a. What would be the underlying philosophical or ecological reasons
                    for the use of these materials and techniques?
     2. Would your utopia have high population density or low population density?
          A. Why?
     3. Would your utopia be urban, rural, or have elements of both?
          A. Why?
          B. If both, what would their relationship be?
     4. What kind(s) of transportation would it use?
     5. Would any kinds of transportation be encouraged or discouraged?
          A. If so, which ones?
          B. How?
          C. And why?
     6. How would your utopia deal with sewage and other waste products?
     7. What would be the relationship between public space and private space?
     8. Would your utopia have private, self-contained dwellings (as at present—
          detached houses and self-contained apartments)?
     9. Would it have private, but non-self-contained individual living spaces
               (without kitchens and laundry facilities, and perhaps without private
               bathrooms or living rooms)?
          A. What kind of buildings would these living spaces be in?
    10. Would your utopia have private or communal dining facilities, or a
               combination of the two?
          A. If a combination, what would it be?
    11. Would it have a closed or nearly closed ecosystem, as in Soleri’s arcology?
    12. How would your utopia deal with noise pollution?




XIII. Food
     1. Would your utopia be vegetarian, omnivorous, or would food choice be
               an individual matter?
          A. If your utopia was small scale and food choice was an individual matter,
               would you prohibit or allow the preparation and consumption of meat in
               public kitchens/dining areas?
     2. Would agriculture be the province of factory farms, as at present, or would
               agricultural production be carried on by smaller units?
          A. If by smaller units, what types of units?
               a. Who would own and control the smaller units?
     3. Would agriculture utilize pesticides and chemical fertilizers, or would
               agriculture be organic?



XIV. Animals
     1. Would animals be raised and slaughtered for food?
          A. If so, what kinds of animals?
          B. If so, would this production be under the present factory system?
               a. If not, what system would replace it?
          C. Would free-range production of food animals be allowed?
               a. If so, of what animals?
     2. Would hunting be allowed in your utopia?
          A. If so, of what animals?
     3. Would animals be used in laboratory testing?
          A. If so, what would be the limits to this testing?
     4. Would animals be kept as pets?
          A. If so, what animals?
     5. Would any animals be banned as pets?
          A. If so, what animals?
               a. Why?



XV. Health & Medicine
     1. Would your utopia utilize allopathic (western) medicine?
     2. Would it utilize alternative (holistic, herbal, natural, etc.) approaches?
          A. If so, which ones?
          B. Why these particular ones?
     3. What role would preventative medicine have?
     4. Would everyone have equal access to medical treatment?
          A. If not, who would have preferential treatment?
               a. Why?
     5. How would your utopia deal with mental illness?
          A. Would psychotherapeutic approaches be used?
               a. If so, which ones?
               b. Why?
     6. Would psychiatric drugs be used?
     7. Would “death with dignity” (voluntary euthanasia) be allowed in your utopia?



XVI. Alcohol and Other Drugs
     1. Would alcohol be allowed in your utopia?
          A. If so, what if any restrictions would be placed on its use?
     2. Would tobacco be allowed?
          A. If so, what if any restrictions would be placed on its use?
     3. Would marijuana be allowed?
          A. If so, what if any restrictions would be placed on its use?
     4. Would other drugs be allowed?
          A. If so, which ones?
          B. What if any restrictions would be placed on their use?



XVII. Antisocial Behavior and Conflict Resolution
     1. How would your utopia deal with those who harm others?
          A. Force them to undergo psychiatric treatment?
          B. Shun them?
          C. Banish them?
          D. Imprison them?
          E. Kill them?
     2. Would your utopia have a formalized system for dealing with criminal behavior?
          A. If not, would it be dealt with by the community as a whole?
          B. Would punishment be meted out by victim(s), their families, and friends?
     3. How would your utopia deal with self-destructive behaviors?
     4. How would it deal with conflicts between individuals?
     5. Would there be a means of private mediation?
     6. Would there be a means of public mediation?
     7. Would your utopia ban guns?
     8. Would your utopia ban other types of weapons?
          A. If so, what types?



XVIII. Military/War
     1. Would your utopia abolish war, or if a small society would one of its
          goals be the abolition of war?
     2. Until war is abolished, would your utopia have some kind of self-defense force?
          A. If so, would it be a conventional army with a rank system and chain of command?
          B. If not as a conventional army, how would your self-defense force be organized?
               a. As a militia?
                    aa. If so, who would be its members?
               b. How would weapons be controlled?
               aa. And by whom?
     3. Would any types of weapons be banned?
          A. If so, which ones?
          B. Why?
 

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

 

'Merica.

[monkeypoacher 8055]

Make a google form, yo.

[Taylor 504]

you can't tell me what to do

[Jonificus 2741]

I already live in utopia, brother.

 

[VampsWillDie 76]

So what you're asking us to do is...do your homework?

[Fitermon 668]

No, this isn't even homework. It is something we're going to do in class tomorrow, and it gave me the idea to see what people would do if they made their own utopia. So far, 'Murcia seems to be the only idea presented.

[KarmaDelta 969]

You need a better form for this as someone said. Grab a google thingy and put it all on there. I do not feel like writing down everything or copy/pasting in this sense. We of the internet are lazy people, you should know this.

 

Even so, I too am already living in a utopia.

Hell of a place to sleep, ya feel?

[Fitermon 668]

*Is too lazy* "B-Buh... I copy and pasted it..." *Rolls around*

[Sky 0]

Down with the system.

[Fitermon 668]

*Waits for somebody to actually do what the thread is for.* c:

[EmbryoGod 823]

Glacup do I answer the whole thing or only one section? I'm interested now xD

[hellfiazz 879]

Scope: Global Utopia

 

Values and Goals: Unity of humanity, regardless of race, religion, and nationality, so that it may progress unhindered (

Basically this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism#Non-religious_Universalism). Individuality would still remain strong; people are free to pursue careers and educations of their choice, both provided by the state, but you must be in employment or education.

 

Members/Citizens: Global, so I-IV are discounted. Rights and freedom are not sacrificed: freedom of religion, press, etc remain. Duties are to aid humanity however you can: learning, working, inventing, discovering etc. As long as you are creating progress in yourself or in humanity in some way. No social divides between any group.

 

Children/Education: Limit of 5 children per two parents, so that population doesn't increase too greatly, and so that parents are not overwhelmed by cost of living. They would live with parents, and have the right to education and leisure. No real restrictions on children's activities, provided they aren't potentially deadly. They are educated by teachers with academic, social and creative studies up to the age of 16, at which point they may pursue any area of study they wish. Sex education starts at age 12, and is done by teachers. Higher education would remain, and would be free.

 

Power/Politics: Constitutional Democratic Despotism (A person/group of people is elected, and has nigh-absolute power, but must not breach the constitution. Aspects of Meritocracy are in there too, you are only a candidate if you have the capability.)

 

Decision making is done by this person/group of people with the good of humanity in mind. They may not breach the constitution in any way. The world is divided into regions, and each region elects an administrator. If the region flourishes under that administrator, they can be a candidate for global election. Abuse of authority is intolerable, and doing so will result in trial by a Supreme Court-like group of people, formed of past successful leaders.

 

Economics, work and leisure: Production would be organised by the state, and would retain the use of money. Work will be compensated by hours worked, quality of work, and difficulty / dangerousness of job. People are free to choose their career, provided they are qualified. Economic planning would be done on a regional basis by the administrator and advisors of merit. Ownership would be a combination, property would be private, but size of land property would be limited to a feasible figure, and may not be removed without sufficient time and compensation. Hours would be around 9 hours of work, 7 hours of free time, 8 hours of rest (the latter two being up to the individual's discretion). Standard of living would be working class, midway between poverty and middle-class. Time for creativity is included in time for leisure.

 

Sex, sex roles and gender difference: Men and women are coexistent and equal, otherwise humanity is divided. Roles of men and women would not vary by decree of the state, but if they vary due to choices of individuals from either sex, that's fine.

The nuclear family would remain to an extent: having a family is encouraged, but not mandatory or limited by sexuality or blood-relatedness. Marriage would be retained and can be religious or secular, but married couples are offered no extra rights over unmarried couples. gay marriage is recognised.

Alternative relationships are neither encouraged or discouraged any more than heterosexual monogamous relationships.

Sexual freedom is neither encouraged nor discouraged, and is equal between men and women.

Abortion is available on demand up to 20 weeks, though is discouraged verbally and non-harmfully if the person is fit to raise the potential child, without any complications such as rape of mother or disability (in which case there is no discouragement). Men have can express their wishes but the woman's decision is final.

Sexually transmitted diseases are treated as any other disease, and sufferers would be as much patients as people with any other illness would be.

Youthful sexual experimentation is allowed, but is not allowed legally below the age of 14. People under 18 are not allowed to have sex with people over 21, with a maximum of a 2 year age gap.

Sexual jealously / possessiveness is allowed in passive (I.E. they are allowed to express concern and hold those emotions), but if active action is taken by one partner over the other (such as spying or abuse) then it is immediately illegal and punished. The victim's consent to prosecute is not required.

Nudity is allowed in businesses or private property with the manager's/owner's consent, but not in the complete public, and not in the presence of children under age 14. This is to protect children from harm, and to ensure anyone who is offended by that doesn't have to be near it.

Bestiality, paedophilia, and incest is banned.

 

Science and technology: Scientific research is encouraged and funded in all STE fields if ethical. Technogical development is encouraged and funded if ethical. The use of non-renewable resources would be allowed until the renewable alternative is feasible. Efforts to make energy renewable are funded, with non-renewable energy being banned once the renewable alterative is feasible, to prevent pollution and shortage.

Reproductive technologies are allowed to help infertile people have children, and to try and prevent disabled births if desired. Designer babies are not allowed.

Cloning of animals is allowed, but cloning of humans literally is not. Stem cell use is allowed though.

Life extension techniques are allowed depending on what they are. If genetically changing aging, then no. If through medicine or technology, yes. They are available to all.

Exploration of space is encouraged and funded. Nuclear and toxic waste are thrown into the sun. Disposed of in a clean, efficient manner and method.

 

Religion: Religion would be separate from the state, but religious studies are done in schools.

Freedom of religion is complete. Cults and gurus are allowed provided they don't partake in illegal activities and don't disrupt the peace.

Rituals and celebrations are allowed in public, and may be done as per the individual's desire.

Religion would be integrated by studying it as a whole and individual religions at school, and places of worship are tax-free. 

There would be no relationship, other than what the religion says about sex.

Religious hierarchy would be done as per religion.

Religion and science should co-exist: science describes the universe and its laws, religion explains it and them however they wish.

If someone's religion allows/encourages them to take psychoactive drugs that are legal, then it's no problem. 

 

The Arts: Taking up the arts would be encouraged during leisure time, but there's no funding as the arts are separate from career, but both are allowed enough time each to co-exist. People may not pursue the arts as part of their career, but are fully free and uncensored during free time.

 

The media: All current forms of media would be allowed to exist completely uncensored. Journalism and the press remain separate from the state, but entertainment media is provided by the state via state sponsored media guilds. Unless they are entertainment media, then journalism and press take place during free time.

 

The physical: Buildings would be built by the state whenever necessary, and architecture may take whatever form the architect pleases, though they are encouraged to be similar to surrounding buildings. 

Population density would be medium, in that housing wouldn't take up large amounts of space as they do in American suburbs, and apartment blocks are preferred but not encouraged financially. Therefore it would be preferably urban but rural is fine.

Everything else would be done as per the administrator of a region thinks should be.

 

Food: Food choice is up to the individual in terms of herbivorous or such diets.

Agriculture is done via factory farms.

Pesticides and the like are banned if they are harmful to the environment.

 

Animals: Animals can be raised and slaughtered for food, but they must be kept in good, free range conditions.

Hunting would be allowed for non-endangered pest animals and game.

Only animals that don't have complex emotional ability are allowed to be lab-tested, unless the animal is vital to be tested on for human safety.

Animals may be kept as pets if they aren't inherently strongly likely to attack humans or other animals. Endangered animals may not be kept as pets also.

 

Health and medicine: Medicine used would be whichever is most demonstrably effective, whether allopathic or alternative or herbal.

Preventative medicine, such as vaccines, are mandatory for children.

Everyone has equal access to medical treatment. However, self-imposed conditions, such as binge-drinking related illnesses, or obesity-related illness (where the obesity is proven to be from diet and not pre-existing susceptibilities) result in a fine of 20% of the medical costs.

Mental illness patients are attempted to be integrated into society and treated, but if the patient is a threat to themselves or others than they are placed in mental illness wards until recovery.

Psychiatric drugs are only used for people who will definitely require and benefit from them.

Voluntary euthanasia is allowed but only if the person is in a fit state of mind to decide upon the matter. After saying they want to be euthanised, they are given 1 week to reconsider before their death, in which time the doctor will try to persuade them away from it if their is a chance of recovery.

 

Alcohol/other drugs: Alcohol is allowed but binge drinking to the state of requiring medical help is not.

Tobacco and marijuana are allowed, the latter being regulated as alcohol and tobacco are.

Other drugs are illegal but not a criminal act, in that they are illegal to use but users and addicts are treated medically, and not judicially. 

 

Antisocial behaviour and conflict resolution: Those who harm others are imprisoned, but rather than normal punishment they must undergo rehabilitation and psychiatric treatment during their sentence.

There is a formalised system for dealing with criminal behaviour, as described above. 

Self-destructive behaviours, such as alcoholism, or drug abuse, are treated medically, not judicially.

Violent conflicts are treated as crimes. Verbal conflicts are allowed, provided there is not hate speech involved and it doesn't result in violent conflict, and doesn't disrupt the peace. 

Mediation is private and done with therapists.

Guns must be registered, but may only be taken away from the individual if they commit a crime. Weapons that are specifically made to cause extreme, torturous pain, slow death, or severe mutilation are banned.

 

Military/war: The utopia is global, so hopefully war will be a thing of the past. Militias and standing militaries are therefore banned, apart from a global defense force that may put down violent insurgencies or rebellions (rebellions should be prevented by coordination and diplomacy with unhappy individuals beforehand anyway).

 

Anarchy won't work, soviet communism hasn't worked, capitalism hasn't worked, monarchy hasn't worked, Marx's utopia would result in a cycle, not a progression, and so on. 

[casey33 0]

The only true utopia is a ork utopia,  The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.   Orks have no problems in there society, they no sickness, no bad economy, and they always know who is boss. There tech works because they want it to work, example if a ork paints a vehicle red it will go faster because orks beilve it will.

 

Travellin' through space is boring. Well, boring unless da hulk yer on is full of dem gene-sneakers, or a base fer da chaos lads wiv da spikes, or already has Boyz on it. Or if humie lootas come callin', that's always good fer a bit a sport. Or unless yer have a mutiny or two to pass da time, or unless strange fings start happenin', which dey usually do when yer out in da warp. One time we had some bloody great ugly fing come straight out of Weird Lugwort's 'ed! It butchered half da lads, that was pretty entertainin'. Come ter fink of it, space is a pretty good larf. And that's before yer find yerself a nice world ta crush!

[Fitermon 668]

Hellfiazz is the best at this game, guys. He wins all the Utopia Points. Oh, and this is totally a game now, winner becomes the leader of the Utopia or something.