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lemontide331    1615

lemontide331
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After a day's worth of testing and discussion, the staff team has found a noticeable issue in regards to horses. As mentioned in many general feedback threads, the state of horses is imbalanced at the moment, given that post-patch horses are far inferior to pre-patch horses. While post-patch horses muster around 10-12 speed and 25 health from a legendary breeder, pre-patch horses can have 20 speed and over 150+ health from the same skill set, making it a very unfair advantage that cannot be replicated in the current nexus environment. 

 

 

Thus, we are going to prohibit horses from the warzone and see how that impacts the conflict. Anyone caught using a horse may face punishment.

 

 

 

I don't think anyone on the Dwarven side uses a pre-patch horse. So I don't really believe that it is an issue. The real issue is that Oren doesn't have good breeders, atleast compared to the other factions involved. Isn't that a convenience. I love this server but what is the RP reason behind not being able to use a horse while riding through a warzone. There isn't any. I can only speak for Dunamis but we all have Ryno/Ioannis's horses, that are aengulic breeders.

horses are broken, if you think otherwise then i dunno what to say to you... i agree that grinding for like, legendary breeding should give you a nice reward for PvP but it shouldn't make you unkillable as these horses essentially do. I could get a horse myself easy as the Orcs have travista and some other guy in Oren but i don't see the point since it'd just be like wearing a full prot 5 kit on oc.tc whilst everyone else is in unenchanted iron

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mmat    7460

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Maybe have it so that certain types of arrows have a percentage chance of dismounting and slowing, adding just a little bit of risk to using a horse. Maybe 10% 

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hRV    50

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Maybe have it so that certain types of arrows have a percentage chance of dismounting and slowing, adding just a little bit of risk to using a horse. Maybe 10% 

If I'm not wrong, Jistuma is working on something like those arrow types already, plus he said in game that he'd pretty much created pikes, which gives a balance to horses. 

Also, I'm not speaking for Jistuma here, I'm just saying what he said in global, so if the staff decide to not implement it or whatever, don't crucify me.

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Skippy    2466

Skippy
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Lemme just maneuver my equine through these trenches.

the coast seems pretty clean tbh

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winterblood    11181

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Not sure if this is just me or not but ever since the warzone has been made I've been lagging like flipping crazy, yesterday I was kicked like 4 times after taking a fast travel saying flying isn't enabled on the server.  And also every time I take a fast travel or souls tone I have to deal with getting teleported back to where the ft took me for about one minute and if I move to much I'll get kicked for flying.  Is anyone else getting this lag?

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luv    3469

luv
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There is no counter to someone who is on a horse, at least not from my experience. 

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Bobby123    115

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No, just stop. This war zone was fun until you got rid of horses, an item of pvp on this server that people in the Dwarf side have worked hard to get a good breeding method to produce horses, just because oren are too lazy to make them shouldn't be a reason to remove them off the field. Also building a fort to the humans who are the attackers here isn't correct too. Its a segige camp preparing for a siege near by, not a ******* human city in the middle of the world. This area use to be fun but with the changes to horses and the human city 2.0 it just encourages them to sit in the fort all day till they have 20+ guys more than us and charge out, now we cant even use horses to kite away, one of the ways they where intended to use. Also don't say 'the whole staff' when it was just you (fireheart) and cracker, Cracker who on a side not is also an heir to the Oren throne so why in gods name is he even on the 'war team' when he is clearly affiliated with one side? A rule in the war claim rules may i add. 

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Ioannis    1480

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There is no counter to someone who is on a horse, at least not from my experience. 

 
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 What are you talking about? You know nothing of pvp! hahaha

Also remove breeding since apparently you dont want it. 

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Cracker    4570

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tbh, removing/nerfing horses away takes a huge advantage away from the dwarves, one they obtained through playing the game as it was designed. The change essentially undermines the roleplay and the effort that the dwarves put in to this war and that makes me sad.

I also gave galendar a ton of shitty vanilla horses during the adria revolt, which might cause spookylean's horse woes. Horse statistics are, to some extent, hereditary, right?

rip.

There's no movement to remove horses from general play yet, after all, we've yet to see the ramifications of such an act. The issue is, the horses obtained then are unobtainable now. It would be near impossible to match the horses of old with most post-patch horses given their stats. Whether he got his horses from a poor source or not, unless you have access to these elite horses, which are not supposed to be as elite as they are, you can never create horses that come close to rivaling them. 

 

No, just stop. This war zone was fun until you got rid of horses, an item of pvp on this server that people in the Dwarf side have worked hard to get a good breeding method to produce horses, just because oren are too lazy to make them shouldn't be a reason to remove them off the field. Also building a fort to the humans who are the attackers here isn't correct too. Its a segige camp preparing for a siege near by, not a ******* human city in the middle of the world. This area use to be fun but with the changes to horses and the human city 2.0 it just encourages them to sit in the fort all day till they have 20+ guys more than us and charge out, now we cant even use horses to kite away, one of the ways they where intended to use. Also don't say 'the whole staff' when it was just you (fireheart) and cracker, Cracker who on a side not is also an heir to the Oren throne so why in gods name is he even on the 'war team' when he is clearly affiliated with one side? A rule in the war claim rules may i add. 

You can ask your own leaders; I've got no say in the warclaims to come as I don't moderate the warclaim terms or am a part of the WC chat. I only help planned out the trench warfare. It wasn't even my decision to remove horses from the trench warfare, I originally wanted to just balance them on a later date, but after seeing how unbalanced the pre-patch vs post-patch horses were, the admins as a whole went along with barring horses for the time. I'm perfectly fine PKing my characters to uphold my GM duties, too, it's not a matter of supporting one-side or the other.

 

Once again, this is all optional, so if the lack of horses is so frustrating, you can always sit out. Testing out balances and PvP fixes on the PvP zone that has little to no RP consequence win or lose should not be an issue to you, you lose nothing of significance and the staff gains precious data on how to better balance its PvP systems.

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Skippy    2466

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>WW1

 

No wonder they didn't use horses, machine guns exist in real life, they don't in LOTC.

Actually, despite machine guns, horses had some small uses in trench warfare, so even though it was very minimal they were there.

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