AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, RugRatRew said: Yes partially is, but it is reality, the humans have turned from roleplay to reinactment, God is a holy being and the only god, and everyone else shall die! actually most humans are atheist or unpious jerks who don't care about the church you're saying medieval people weren't smart? ok well I guess oren isn't medieval then looks like I was right :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, AGiantPie said: actually most humans are atheist or unpious jerks who don't care about the church Now, not then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, RugRatRew said: Now, not then. im talking about in OREN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, AGiantPie said: you're saying medieval people weren't smart? ok well I guess oren isn't medieval then looks like I was right :/ Psssst... hey, I am going to tell you a secret... that is called... BAD RP'ING! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, RugRatRew said: Psssst... hey, I am going to tell you a secret... that is called... BAD RP'ING! so its bad roleplay to not be a complete moron who has no idea how to take advantage of a strategic advantage? you have some really weird thoughts about what rp is good and fulfilling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, AGiantPie said: im talking about in OREN I am talking about IRL and that is also... BAD RP'ING! One or two bad apples are ok, but most is just sad, and to restate my previous argument BAD RP'ING! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, RugRatRew said: I am talking about IRL and that is also... BAD RP'ING! One or two bad apples are ok, but most is just sad, and to restate my previous argument BAD RP'ING! IRL is completely irrelevant this is not a historical server and actual medieval attitudes have no bearing on the server or what actions people should take; this is one of the reasons oren is not actually medieval at all, as no one in oren has a medieval mindset really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, AGiantPie said: so its bad roleplay to not be a complete moron who has no idea how to take advantage of a strategic advantage? you have some really weird thoughts about what rp is good and fulfilling Ok let us imagine that you are a 28 year old new king, who knows nothing about anything (because guess what... you never went to school! It is the dark ages and people won't reducate for another 400 years!) So you know that their are hundreds of big 11 foot tall heaps of muscle that want to kill you just as much as glance at you, are you going to try to attack them? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomzerang 515 Share Posted December 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, AGiantPie said: . Fair point, actually. Although I can RPly see this, and forgive me for bringing OOC into something that should, by all means, be an OOC discussion about RP, it honestly gets quite tiring of going through the same cycle over and over. Oren attacks Orcs > Orcs have the weaker military, they fall > Orcs build a new city > Oren looks at it and says "Letting them do that is a bad idea. Let's kill them before they can do that!" > Oren attacks orcs, etc. etc. Can you at least see where I'm coming from here? Also, I must admit that our actions towards and with other nations don't consist of much, but regardless, spirit worship is a large part of Orcish culture. Mind you, the main city hasn't been taking many, if any, slaves recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, RugRatRew said: Ok let us imagine that you are a 28 year old new king, who knows nothing about anything (because guess what... you never went to school! It is the dark ages and people won't reducate for another 400 years!) So you know that their are hundreds of big 11 foot tall heaps of muscle that want to kill you just as much as glance at you, are you going to try to attack them? Really? what did I just say? This isn't a historical server. we're not in the dark ages, and the emperor isn't an illiterate coward, and he knows that his legions have reliably beat the orcs on the field of battle AND he has them in a situation where they're trying to set up a new fortress but he can attack them and destroy the fortress before they get enough supplies to reliably hold it also medieval kings weren't cowards in any case as they only ruled b/c they were mighty military men so yeah they probably would go attack them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, AGiantPie said: IRL is completely irrelevant this is not a historical server and actual medieval attitudes have no bearing on the server or what actions people should take; this is one of the reasons oren is not actually medieval at all, as no one in oren has a medieval mindset really IRL is totally relevant, because there are explicit rules saying that they want to keep the server in the middles ages for ever! Oren worships one god, called god, the only true god and the only one that should be worshiped. Trying to kill everyone, check. Do I need to go on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammer 388 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The Great Cycle. Oren fights with everyone until there is no one left, then they fight each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, AGiantPie said: what did I just say? This isn't a historical server. we're not in the dark ages, and the emperor isn't an illiterate coward, and he knows that his legions have reliably beat the orcs on the field of battle AND he has them in a situation where they're trying to set up a new fortress but he can attack them and destroy the fortress before they get enough supplies to reliably hold it also medieval kings weren't cowards in any case as they only ruled b/c they were mighty military men so yeah they probably would go attack them The emperor should be, and as I said history has a huge effect on the server, so my one sentence null/voids your entire first paragraph. And you are right they weren't cowards, they were idiots who died young because they didn't know what they were doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Rob Boss said: Fair point, actually. Although I can RPly see this, and forgive me for bringing OOC into something that should, by all means, be an OOC discussion about RP, it honestly gets quite tiring of going through the same cycle over and over. Oren attacks Orcs > Orcs have the weaker military, they fall > Orcs build a new city > Oren looks at it and says "Letting them do that is a bad idea. Let's kill them before they can do that!" > Oren attacks orcs, etc. etc. Can you at least see where I'm coming from here? Also, I must admit that our actions towards and with other nations don't consist of much, but regardless, spirit worship is a large part of Orcish culture. Mind you, the main city hasn't been taking many, if any, slaves recently. yes its ******* boring and mind numbing welcome to lotc turns out its not a very good server people keep doing the same **** over and over and over with the same results (they probably do this because the only thing that's fun to do on the server is fight people). maybe now you'll start to understand why watching the situation from the outside is like banging your face against a wall, and why people in oren get rather annoyed when people tell them oocly that they're just being assholes and dominating and trying to push playergroups off the server b/c they're ooc powerhungry jerks when countless numbers of small playergroups have attacked them and been swatted and cried foul to get ooc protection. now oreners are indeed just like the other playergroups in that the main thing they do to have fun is find someone to have a fight with, but oren rarely attempts to actually conquer land because conquering land on this server is mostly a waste of time. we have so much land and so few people that oren has effectively infinite space to expand into without having to fight to set up its own empire. conquering land doesn't bring any new taxes or people or anything all it does is deny the enemy the ability to use that land to build a fortress on, which is why conquests only ever happen when oren feels the need to stifle a group's ability to harass them from a fortified position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Rammer said: The Great Cycle. Oren fights with everyone until there is no one left, then they fight each other. That is the problem, IRL that happens, but then someone else comes along (mongols, huns, etc) that they didn't know about and kills all of them, that can't happen here because there are no "secret races" or anything with new tech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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