AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, RugRatRew said: "disgusting druid" ingame stereotype for most humans, still got uncivilized wrong and not all humans are afraid of leaving their comfort zones, but be honest, how many of you, your first character was a human? no that's not an in game stereotype im talking about IRL druids which are the most vile creatures on the planet also I wasn't aware that 3 year olds could study medieval history my first ever rp character was a half elf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, AGiantPie said: damn you must be **** at studying then because none of what you said is accurate 1) medieval armies weren't large, not relative to the population 2) the poor population in oren is not large; in fact almost everyone is a soldier or nobility and has expensive equipment and claims to be important. you're very hard pressed to find a single farmer in oren 3) oren doesn't have a bunch of warlords trying to kill each other, not anymore. it has vassals but they don't fight each other that often. 1) 90% of the population was at least drafted for the army. 2) True, but that is where good rp'ers come in. 3) You have to be kidding me. 16 minutes ago, Taketheshot said: We do, get over it stop whining. If you did there would be three comments not forty-five on this page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, RugRatRew said: 1) 90% of the population was at least drafted for the army. 2) True, but that is where good rp'ers come in. 3) You have to be kidding me. 1) women didn't fight and they make up 50% of the population :/ as a general rule of thumb, if a society is pre-industrial it can't levy more than 8% of its population to fight, max 2) nah we quit lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taketheshot 3834 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, RugRatRew said: If you did there would be three comments not forty-five on this page. I dont follow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, AGiantPie said: no that's not an in game stereotype im talking about IRL druids which are the most vile creatures on the planet also I wasn't aware that 3 year olds could study medieval history my first ever rp character was a half elf I know I was comparing your IRL view to the IG stereotype. See good example of being uncivil, being rude for no reason. Half human? 2 minutes ago, AGiantPie said: 1) women didn't fight and they make up 50% of the population :/ as a general rule of thumb, if a society is pre-industrial it can't levy more than 8% of its population to fight, max 2) nah we quit lol 1) Some women (a lot) were actually killed at birth, for being women (horrible). They couldn't but they did, therefore many people when hungry (not in LotC where insta-bread exists) 2) The axis, Vege, (formerly Malgo) ever heard of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, RugRatRew said: I know I was comparing your IRL view to the IG stereotype. See good example of being uncivil, being rude for no reason. Half human? not being rude, that wasn't an insult, I'm just pointing out an inconsistency in your story. according to your application and profile you're thirteen years old yet claim you've studied medieval history "for over 10 years." pretty sure 3 year olds can't read or study history so your story doesn't really add up :/ yes it was a D&D character Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, AGiantPie said: not being rude, that wasn't an insult, I'm just pointing out an inconsistency in your story. according to your application and profile you're thirteen years old yet claim you've studied medieval history "for over 10 years." pretty sure 3 year olds can't read or study history so your story doesn't really add up :/ yes it was a D&D character I'm sorry I was like a week from my birth day when I signed up, so yes over 10 years, I am also something called "smart" (uncivil) My point stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreamingDingo 20568 Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, RugRatRew said: 2) (formerly Malgo) ever heard of them? I'm sorry I'm going to step in here. You're obviously very new to the server and jumped on the hype train. You are defining good RP'ers as those who have arguably antagonised Oren to the point OOC'ly where they become venomous pvp'ers and do not appreciate anything but removing the current system in Oren. Good roleplayers don't whine or go 'oren is killing us waaaa', good roleplayers deal with what's presented to them. Guess what, LotC is a story, not a personal logbook of your character always winning. The key to dynamic roleplay is for everyone to deal with the consequences, pulling out ridiculous statistics and saying why Oren "shouldn't" be top literally degrades your argument for Good RP. Human Culture is honestly the most vast on the server, it's the most developed over the 5 years this server has ran its course. It has been moulded by every experience and to argue that its lesser than any other because they're winning and have more numbers is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomzerang 515 Share Posted December 22, 2016 May I just, uhh, relate to the original post? Is Oren trying to win LotC? I mean, I'm not complaining particularly at the fact that they rule the server, that's fine and I expect at least one faction to come out on top. My problem is the way that they want to purge a lot of races - one of which I play, an orc. Regardless, they seem to be wanting to root out much smaller playerbases, and although I agree that orcs have indeed had some past with Oren regarding slave hunting, I don't see the point in continuing to warclaim them. When was the last time an orc from the main city has taken a slave from Oren & Friends Ltd? Admittedly, I've not been on the server for very long, but of the time I have been on, I can tell you, that by this point, they sort of have. Right now, it seems they're just consolidating power. A bit like Hitler did. (Curse you, Godwin's Law!) I'd appreciate any feedback from Oreners on this. Enlighten me, if you will, so I won't have to type out posts like this in the future. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taketheshot 3834 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, RugRatRew said: I'm sorry I was like a week from my birth day when I signed up, so yes over 10 years, I am also something called "smart" (uncivil) My point stands You reeaaaaalllly dont seem like you are "smart" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, GrimReaper98 said: I'm sorry I'm going to step in here. You're obviously very new to the server and jumped on the hype train. You are defining good RP'ers as those who have arguably antagonised Oren to the point OOC'ly where they become venomous pvp'ers and do not appreciate anything but removing the current system in Oren. Good roleplayers don't whine or go 'oren is killing us waaaa', good roleplayers deal with what's presented to them. Guess what, LotC is a story, not a personal logbook of your character always winning. The key to dynamic roleplay is for everyone to deal with the consequences, pulling out ridiculous statistics and saying why Oren "shouldn't" be top literally degrades your argument for Good RP. Human Culture is honestly the most vast on the server, it's the most developed over the 5 years this server has ran its course. It has been moulded by every experience and to argue that its lesser than any other because they're winning and have more numbers is disgusting. Honestly those were answers to number 3, but they still stood so I left them, and I have heard both sides of the story, they aren't going "oren is killing us waaaa" they are going "we are being crushed to death over a matter of months, rp'ly and ooc'ly, please help us" Yes partially is, but it is reality, the humans have turned from roleplay to reinactment, God is a holy being and the only god, and everyone else shall die! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGP 3169 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rob Boss said: May I just, uhh, relate to the original post? Is Oren trying to win LotC? I mean, I'm not complaining particularly at the fact that they rule the server, that's fine and I expect at least one faction to come out on top. My problem is the way that they want to purge a lot of races - one of which I play, an orc. Regardless, they seem to be wanting to root out much smaller playerbases, and although I agree that orcs have indeed had some past with Oren regarding slave hunting, I don't see the point in continuing to warclaim them. When was the last time an orc from the main city has taken a slave from Oren & Friends Ltd? Admittedly, I've not been on the server for very long, but of the time I have been on, I can tell you, that by this point, they sort of have. Right now, it seems they're just consolidating power. A bit like Hitler did. (Curse you, Godwin's Law!) I'd appreciate any feedback from Oreners on this. Enlighten me, if you will, so I won't have to type out posts like this in the future. Cheers! here's the problem with orcs; orcs hate oren and oren knows this (also oren hates orcs), and they think (accurately) that orcs are scary fighters and they love fighting and that they WILL fight oren at some point in the future, so oren came to the logical conclusion in RP that allowing the orcs to set up a city and get populated and fortified is an incredibly stupid strategic move and that they should try to exterminate them while they have the chance. humans and orcs have fought each other reliably for 5 irl years at this point; the conflict has been on and off for in game centuries. why is any orc so surprised that people want to fight them when the orcish interactions with the other nations and races rarely if ever consists of more than "tribute or flat" personally i think orcs are a really stupid race to have as a standard playable race in a fantasy rp setting but it's a bit late to change that now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rob Boss said: May I just, uhh, relate to the original post? Is Oren trying to win LotC? I mean, I'm not complaining particularly at the fact that they rule the server, that's fine and I expect at least one faction to come out on top. My problem is the way that they want to purge a lot of races - one of which I play, an orc. Regardless, they seem to be wanting to root out much smaller playerbases, and although I agree that orcs have indeed had some past with Oren regarding slave hunting, I don't see the point in continuing to warclaim them. When was the last time an orc from the main city has taken a slave from Oren & Friends Ltd? Admittedly, I've not been on the server for very long, but of the time I have been on, I can tell you, that by this point, they sort of have. Right now, it seems they're just consolidating power. A bit like Hitler did. (Curse you, Godwin's Law!) I'd appreciate any feedback from Oreners on this. Enlighten me, if you will, so I won't have to type out posts like this in the future. Cheers! Amen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taketheshot 3834 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, AGiantPie said: here's the problem with orcs; orcs hate oren and oren knows this (also oren hates orcs), and they think (accurately) that orcs are scary fighters and they love fighting and that they WILL fight oren at some point in the future, so oren came to the logical conclusion in RP that allowing the orcs to set up a city and get populated and fortified is an incredibly stupid strategic move and that they should try to exterminate them while they have the chance. humans and orcs have fought each other reliably for 5 irl years at this point; the conflict has been on and off for in game centuries. why is any orc so surprised that people want to fight them when the orcish interactions with the other nations and races rarely if ever consists of more than "tribute or flat" personally i think orcs are a really stupid race to have as a standard playable race in a fantasy rp setting but it's a bit late to change that now The Final Solution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odium174 62 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, AGiantPie said: here's the problem with orcs; orcs hate oren and oren knows this (also oren hates orcs), and they think (accurately) that orcs are scary fighters and they love fighting and that they WILL fight oren at some point in the future, so oren came to the logical conclusion in RP that allowing the orcs to set up a city and get populated and fortified is an incredibly stupid strategic move and that they should try to exterminate them while they have the chance. humans and orcs have fought each other reliably for 5 irl years at this point; the conflict has been on and off for in game centuries. why is any orc so surprised that people want to fight them when the orcish interactions with the other nations and races rarely if ever consists of more than "tribute or flat" personally i think orcs are a really stupid race to have as a standard playable race in a fantasy rp setting but it's a bit late to change that now Nobody is that century was that smart! They would have though two feet in front of their face and said "their mean!" and ran away/ left them alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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