[Feedback] Unbalanced Racial Lore - Elves

[zaezae 1098]

2 hours ago, Sir K Andruske said:

 

Do not lie to me. People are weirdos. 

 

Maybe. However, we shouldn't care only about elven curse when no one plays the non-elven fertility. 

[Eurielle 1189]

5 minutes ago, zaezae said:

no one plays the non-elven fertility.

Best way to put anything related to elf children.

[Jistuma 1996]

13 hours ago, Time Lady of Kittens said:

It was in the lore a while back but got removed.

Never was, unless someone added that to the wiki without it being true (has happened).

 

Edit: What has happened was a controversy of someone with 8 children in like 50 years.

[Demotheus 651]

Yeah I agree. +56

[Murdervish 308]

11 hours ago, zaezae said:

People understandably do not want to roleplay dead babies.

As a member of the Wiki Team, I can guarantee this is untrue.

Jokes aside, people generally don't RP their curses well, though elves are perhaps the most obvious about ignoring theirs. This isn't to say you don't have several dozen humans running around with "Real age: 23" in their descriptions, and I've probably seen more female dwarves than old humans, but that'll be just those players. With elves, you have the player, the player they mated with, and the two players that are their twins, nevermind any prior children. You're not looking at individuals at this point, you're looking at a small group of people that accepted this together.

 

Since people question their strange fertility, the elven players cried "we got lucky!" and roll. It's an interesting work-around of having to roll (generally) 100 every time, and if they get above 90 they have a kid, and if it's like 95 or higher it's twins. Each FTB or cyber or whatever you do represents a completely fresh roll, even if it was minutes after. We can't pretend we give a damn about biology if there appear to be players that think the lady's egg just needed to be knocked out of the ovary like you're trying to get candy from a vending machine.

Infertility is infertility. A woman would ovulate less and their vaginal canal and uterus generally would be less inviting of an environment for the sperm or for a zygote, but likewise the male's sperm count would be diminished and their sperm less likely to survive the trip/wait for the egg (I add the wait because sperm can live up to 72 hours in a vaginal canal for the ovulation, but that don't mean **** for your little buddy if it can't get the job done once it sees the egg). There's no reason to believe one would be necessarily more fertile by the virtue of their biological sex when Wiggly McSpermazoa can only manage a dry hump against the shriveled grape of Ms. Laurehlin, though perhaps it's more obvious when a female elf player breaks this rule than a male elf player.

[zaezae 1098]

16 minutes ago, Murdervish said:

As a member of the Wiki Team, I can guarantee this is untrue.

Jokes aside, people generally don't RP their curses well, though elves are perhaps the most obvious about ignoring theirs. This isn't to say you don't have several dozen humans running around with "Real age: 23" in their descriptions, and I've probably seen more female dwarves than old humans, but that'll be just those players. With elves, you have the player, the player they mated with, and the two players that are their twins, nevermind any prior children. You're not looking at individuals at this point, you're looking at a small group of people that accepted this together.

 

Since people question their strange fertility, the elven players cried "we got lucky!" and roll. It's an interesting work-around of having to roll (generally) 100 every time, and if they get above 90 they have a kid, and if it's like 95 or higher it's twins. Each FTB or cyber or whatever you do represents a completely fresh roll, even if it was minutes after. We can't pretend we give a damn about biology if there appear to be players that think the lady's egg just needed to be knocked out of the ovary like you're trying to get candy from a vending machine.

Infertility is infertility. A woman would ovulate less and their vaginal canal and uterus generally would be less inviting of an environment for the sperm or for a zygote, but likewise the male's sperm count would be diminished and their sperm less likely to survive the trip/wait for the egg (I add the wait because sperm can live up to 72 hours in a vaginal canal for the ovulation, but that don't mean **** for your little buddy if it can't get the job done once it sees the egg). There's no reason to believe one would be necessarily more fertile by the virtue of their biological sex when Wiggly McSpermazoa can only manage a dry hump against the shriveled grape of Ms. Laurehlin, though perhaps it's more obvious when a female elf player breaks this rule than a male elf player.

 

 

 

Honestly, I think it is reasonable to /expect/ males to be more fertile than females. It is just a simple fact that males reproduction is just more simple than females. Only one thing has to go right for a male but with a female, everything must happen correctly. 

 

But besides all that. Who really cares, it's magic. It's a magical curse and it doesn't need to be explained. 

 

 

And it's a good thing that it's magic too because there simply couldn't be a biological explanation about why men cannot impregnate two women at the same time. 

 

[Murdervish 308]

3 minutes ago, zaezae said:

Honestly, I think it is reasonable to /expect/ males to be more fertile than females. It is just a simple fact that males reproduction is just more simple than females. Only one thing has to go right for a male but with a female, everything must happen correctly. 

 

But besides all that. Who really cares, it's magic. 

 

Pretty much. Most of the things that "could go wrong" with women happen later on (and are ignored because dead babies), but I dunno if Iblees goes to each elven sperm individually and calls them names or how it's supposed to work, and I'm pretty sure no one cares at that level.

[zaezae 1098]

5 minutes ago, Murdervish said:

Pretty much. Most of the things that "could go wrong" with women happen later on (and are ignored because dead babies), but I dunno if Iblees goes to each elven sperm individually and calls them names or how it's supposed to work, and I'm pretty sure no one cares at that level.

 

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I think it would make the most sense that Iblees predates on the weakest of elves, those who are literally just conceived and barely any survive to actually grow beyond just a few cells. So basically elves are as fertile as humans, but the curse drains their offspring that makes births exceedingly rare. 

[BonesOfTheEarth 2252]

On 1/6/2017 at 5:46 PM, Time Lady of Kittens said:

Already elven pregnancies are common enough, but to basically allow a loophole to where MALE ELVES can have children whenever they please.

Alright, this makes sense. A bit of a rough topic to talk about on a pg13 server but if it affected male elves, then any time they had sex at all it would reset the 15 years. Its as simple as that. Although male elves still have overall infertility and difficulty to reproduce- But there's no way to moderate this. Gl trying.

[Zindran 590]

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