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this and corc cure pot are just deep examples of the dichotomy of man [whom both rejects and pleads for alchemy bloat].

 

it just got amended out and we're adding it back in but worse and w/ legal metagaming protections. 😭 we could all save time and lore resources if we spammed hateful forum messages to corc players

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I like this because it means more alchemy slop, another potion to my collection. I will have one potion of each in my storage vaults.

 

Also fix this typo fo' i tweak.

46 minutes ago, Islamadon said:

Corictură

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this is cool

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1 hour ago, Islamadon said:

This includes the hearts of Corcituri,

 

1 hour ago, Islamadon said:

However, the hearts of immortal, alchemic or aberrant creatures such as Klones,

 

What about Corcitura Klones? Corcitura Klone Ash being unable to be used for this recipe due to their alchemical composition, correct? Which factor overrides the other in this matter; the Klone, or the Corcitura Curse?

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Why not let this be rare knowledge like the vampire cure? The salt shit just got amended this is just that with an ST signature which may not fix anything at all

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2 hours ago, PrimnyaQuorum said:

this and corc cure pot are just deep examples of the dichotomy of man [whom both rejects and pleads for alchemy bloat].

 

it just got amended out and we're adding it back in but worse and w/ legal metagaming protections. 1f62d.png we could all save time and lore resources if we spammed hateful forum messages to corc players

settle down.

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1 hour ago, PolarLoLs said:

Why not let this be rare knowledge like the vampire cure? The salt shit just got amended this is just that with an ST signature which may not fix anything at all

Exactly the intent. The Vote was extraordinarily narrow (like 9-8), and this was the middle ground that the naysayers came up with. A high cost, bottle-necked variant that provided the same function but was considerably more difficult to obtain than renaming a stack of sugar. It requires you to 1) collect a person's heart and 2) collect vampire dust. If you want three, you either need to kill a Corc for a supply of dust, or spend 30 Blisterthorn. This will prevent mass testing at gatehouses and/or roundups, and force investigators to be more selective and methodical. If the Empire wants to butcher a village to harvest 10 hearts, that's pretty Aztec and evil, and would generate content to some degree as well.

The reason we wanted it to be common knowledge is because 1) salt testing has been around for years, 2) we provided RP reasoning, 3) map lore considerations down the line (iykyk). Not to slander, but Muritor's Elixir required an arm twist to spread and at that point it's basically a common recipe because books will get spammed anyways when it does get spread. So it's a bit redundant unless you want to circle jerk it in a Moroi cabal.

Rather than trying to push it in-house, its being done through formal Lore Review w/ community eyes.

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I love this potion, and frankly wish more potions held a kinda mystical vibe. It's a niche in alchemy rare touched upon since we focus more on the science aspect then the estranged aspect. Although I will confuse, I actually think including the heart of Corcs takes away from this potion, rather then adds to it.

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I am dramatically in favor of this, seemingly as well it targets Corcs and leaves Moroi out of the picture (if I can read) -- a change I like & support. Naysayers may ask this recipe to be made RARE, which I also support, but I think Zhulik makes strong points. 

 

Corcs should comment on this thread! This was clearly submitted through normal channels instead of being instantly accepted so we have a chance to advocate for fair-play and give/take with our FA. 

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I think this would be better as a replacement of the current method rather than an addition to it, and should probably be made of the current change is found to be lacking later on rather than immediately (otherwise you won't know which solution to the problem is more effective to the desired outcome.)

 

Having blister as an alt option for making vampire ashes is negative aura tho

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To stop worst-case insane cheese, would it be worthwhile to include a limit on limb gathering from Vampiric folk that gets turned into dust if they do not get killed, mostly given the fact that you have Tawkin and BM currently, which allows you to functionally regenerate limbs, you could just nugget Corcs, regrow their limbs, repeat. (As funny as that would be to have factories of enslaved Corcs being pulled apart for dust.) 

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A potential issue is the redline in blisterthorn that says “items made using blisterthorn do not require an ST signature.”

 

If players want to use 30 blisterthorn for 1 dust, would they just be dumping the 30 blisterthorn in the st chest? 

 

Taking mortal hearts also runs the risk of going the sigismund candle route where something that is supposed to be “taboo” and a deterrent doesn't generate much roleplay around it at all. The time limit put to the harvesting method may help, though. 

 

In general…. I /am/ curious to the reasoning of needing this at all. The corc FA barely has any benefits that cant be better achieved through other means. And then a whole slew of downsides. While this seems fun flavor/theory-wise, it might be too soon mechanics and roleplay-wise when we haven’t had the chance to see the effect of the new salt testing amendment. 

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