Questions On A Guide To Rp A Goblin [[Ooc]]

[CosmicWhaleShark 2488]

Firstly, I apologize if I am interrupting an RP in this thread. However I do have some questions specifically on how to go about being a Goblin.

1. Do they speak blah? I wasn't able to find out if Goblins had tusks or not, in reference to that as well. Do they have pointy ears as they are the descendants of Elves?

2. In terms of combat prowess, how would a Goblin be viewed. In reference to this, how would a goblin go about making weapons such as cannon for the Orcs? Is there a sort of secret laboratory for Goblins or what?

3. Can anyone make me a good Goblin skin?

4. Just in general, how should a Goblin react to certain races as well as other Goblins and even Orcs for that matter.

[Jingeh 278]

1. Do they speak blah? I wasn't able to find out if Goblins had tusks or not, in reference to that as well. Do they have pointy ears as they are the descendants of Elves?Goblins are able to speak Blah and Common fluently in most cases, some of them have small tusks but they do not impair their speech too much.And yes they have rather pointy ears.

2. In terms of combat prowess, how would a Goblin be viewed. In reference to this, how would a goblin go about making weapons such as cannon for the Orcs? Is there a sort of secret laboratory for Goblins or what? Goblins can be quite good at combat in some cases due to them being nimble and considerably more intelligent than their orc brethren and as far as I know there is no secret laboratory

3. Can anyone make me a good Goblin skin?

My IC brother is rather good at making Goblin skins.

http://tinyurl.com/RemansSkinsNShiz

4. Just in general, how should a Goblin react to certain races as well as other Goblins and even Orcs for that matter. That depends on the Goblin to be honest.

Also I am the leader of a whitewash Goblin family if you're interested :3

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[CosmicWhaleShark 2488]

Excellent, thank you very much Jingeh!

[Noahjam325 53]

Firstly, I apologize if I am interrupting an RP in this thread. However I do have some questions specifically on how to go about being a Goblin.

1. Do they speak blah? I wasn't able to find out if Goblins had tusks or not, in reference to that as well. Do they have pointy ears as they are the descendants of Elves?

2. In terms of combat prowess, how would a Goblin be viewed. In reference to this, how would a goblin go about making weapons such as cannon for the Orcs? Is there a sort of secret laboratory for Goblins or what?

3. Can anyone make me a good Goblin skin?

4. Just in general, how should a Goblin react to certain races as well as other Goblins and even Orcs for that matter.

1. They speak the blah and can have tusks. They are not actually descendant from Elves, that is just a folktale.

2. Goblins are smaller and less muscular than regular orcs, so they rely more on agility than strength. But that doesn't mean kung-fu. That usually just means the ability to dodge and run away. Their strength is their ability to just weasel out of situations, or use their ingenuity. They are also very durable as they are commonly used as toys by regular orcs. A goblin would make weapons in a similar manner to any other race. You would most likely have a workshop scaling to the size on what you're working on. Whether it be a siege workshop or a workbench. Generally Goblins will RP building like any other race (but in an orcish manner and technology for orcish culture) and then showcase this to the Warnation. Whether it be through an event or forum post.

3. Not I.

4. Generally goblins share the same culture orcs do. They like to "klomp" or help "klomp" but just usually do it in indirect ways. Gragarn also likes to carry Goblins and throw them around. They are basically just smaller, more intuitive, and more durable orcs.

[Josh △ 87]

Really nice guide! :D

[Blawharag 277]

Ill just add to the Goblin's in combat bit here:

Goblins lack the natural physical prowess possessed by Orc, however they share in the orcish curse of Bloodlust and are therefore driven to kill and war. Because they cannot contribute in physical combat to the same degree that an Orc can, they instead have turned to machinery to do things. They develop Siege Weapons and other various contraptions with the idea of causing destruction on the largest scale possible. Goblins are not innately smarter than Orcs, both races are of average intelligence. Orcish Child-rearing practices focus on individuals filling out certain roles in society, and hyper-training them in those fields throughout their childhood. Since Orcs make for better warriors than Goblins, Orc children are trained for combat and Goblins who are to be military personnel are trained and tutored in Siege Craft throughout childhood. This is what makes them successful at siege development, years and years of study, testing, experimenting and working all with one goal in mind: build a bigger, badder thing.

Through their siege weapons, goblins sate their bloodlust, and as a result they generally tend to build weapons rather than defenses like walls. They also tend to abandon safety precautions for a chance at more kills or destruction. This means hyper-tension in ballistae, over-packing catapults, ect. There is only one thing they generally do not sacrifice for extra kills: Honor. Ariel blessed the Orcs (and by association the goblins) with Honor and Valor. Goblins prefer to build weapons that kill quickly, rather than cause slow painful deaths. Underhanded, dishonorable setups are for the most part taboo among the goblins. Just like an Orc, they prefer to kill their enemy in glorious combat where all is fair and the enemy knows what is coming.

[Sultan 3953]

They also do have tusks,they do have longer ears than Uruks,but they are not from Orc/Elf thats just a folktale.

And yes there are laboratory around the Strigzgoi, you well need to find about them IC though.

We also are lacking on the mad scientific GOblin roles.

(Also Jinggy your not one to advice people, on Orcish Goblins.)

This might help you.

Oh my, I can see there is much about the lore you are going to need to learn. Ill answer your questions but first, here is some stuff you need to know before you join the War Uzg in general:

The Blah: The blah is not a stupid language. The standard blah spoken commonly by Orcs is a mix between Oomie (what we call the common tongue) and True Blah (An entirely seperate language based heavily on LotR Black Speech which is considered our ancestral language and used more commonly by the older Orcs, shaman in particular). Many people think the Blah is a result of limited intelligence by the Orcs (fine to believe IC but OOC untrue). In fact Orcs are just as intelligent as any other species, it's by cultural shifts that we speak the Blah, which favors a guttural tongue easier for Orcs to speak.

Races and Lifespan: This is something not made abundantly clear in our origin story, and in fact is the topic of some discussion where it exactly came about. However it has been confirmed that all races save for Humans are immortal. Elves, Orcs, Dwarves and their appropriate sub races are immortal. Humans specifically were cursed with death by aging, the rest of the races have to be killed by unnatural causes (A sword for instance) in order to die. This means Goblins, like elves, live indefinitely.

Now on to your questions in general:

Yes goblins are very much like WoW goblins in that they are masters of technology. What they spans a variety of generations ranging from simple constructions like the trebuchet to more complex siege weapons like the ballista. I wouldn't say they have developed to the point of Steampunk however, but they are certainly trying.

Relating back to what I already said concerning the Blah, most Goblins will not know the common tongue unless they took the time to learn (which basically applies to every race trying to speak any language). Due to similarities between the tongues, your character could certainly be able to pick up bits and pieces of common speech, but it should be as difficult to understand for your goblin as it is for a random player who does not know the Blah OOC to come in and try to understand us. For ease, you could make your Goblin know common, there is quite a number of Orcs that know common it is not at all rare, but around the War Uzg (or indeed virtually everywhere) he would speak the Blah. Blawharag speaks perfect common, he also speaks True Blah. In almost every situation, even diplomatic ones with other races, he will adhere to Blah for as long as is reasonably possible. If someone else is around to translate he will go to them before he will start speaking common. He will only resort to common when it becomes necessary. For Orcs (and by extension, Goblins) the Blah is our language and Oomie is a language best left to Oomies (A term used to refer to all other races in general).

No as for being treated equally, I know your question is more relating to speaking common vs the Blah (which I cleared up) but I might as well touch upon this topic anyways. Strength in the War Uzg is viewed in many ways, not just combative ability. Jutra is a farmer and a cook. In battle I would call it a kill steal if she came out with a kill count higher than 0. However, she single handedly keeps the entire War Uzg amply supplied with food. That alone would make her considered very strong. To add to that, she still shows up to battles and provides medical support and food handouts making sure warriors stay healthy throughout the fight. That makes her incredibly strong and respected. In the same way, Goblins are never amazing fighters, however they have either entirely built or have had a heavy hand in building every technological piece used by the Orcs. They run siege workshops where they not only build our siege weapons for war, but experiment and design new weapons to fill new and greater needs. Because of their pivotal role played in these fields, they are viewed as equals within the War Uzg.

I think it would be great to see more writing about Goblins. I try to include them where I can when I write (they played a big part in slaying the first Shurr'Dru and will play a larger role in the battles to come) but there are few enough stories centering around them. I would suggest spending some time in the War Uzg and getting a feel for things before you start writing though.

One final note: Remember that Goblins are cursed and blessed with the same Bloodlust and Honor that Orcs are. This means they are driven to spill blood. This is why they are driven to build siege weapons and other lethal tech to compensate what they cannot kill physically. However killing through technology does much less to sate bloodlust than killing a man up close and feeling his blood upon you. For this reason goblins are constantly driven to improve the efficiency of their inventions, constantly trying to one up themselves. Much in the same way a drug addict is constantly trying to re-achieve that "first high". They are also still an honorable race and will lean towards technology that will kill in honorable ways and will try to avoid operator injury (though they may over reach themselves where technology is concerned and be unable to avoid it).

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Hope this helped, let me know if you need any further aid or have more questions, always happy to help.

Goblins are generally more intelligent then orcs when it comes to things such as craftsmanship, mathematics, engineering and things of that nature. It's not that larger orcs are stupid, they're just much more practical and they have big hands, while goblins simply like to tinker

Goblins designed the majority of our siege equipment and they dominate our redstone technology. The few goblins we have are capable of designing various siege weapons, traps and hidden passageways. They tend to excel in trade, if only because of their nack for math, craftsmanship and haggling. Most of our influences are drawn from the works of Tolkien, World of Warcraft and Warhammer. In times of peace, the goblins are engineers and tinkerers, no doubt. But they can be vicious as well in times of war, and they share in the orcish bloodlust and sense of strength and honor. Engineering and trade are among their strengths, so many of them focus on that. Technology will generally follow the medieval era. Some things may dabble on the verge of steampunk, but we're really trying not to get too crazy with it, as the server is still rooted in a medieval style. I also believe that shiftnative has already said that he does not want to see zeppelins, although many of us will joke about the possibilities.

Orcs and goblins are both capable of learning the common tongue, although The Bastardized Blah is what we now learn from birth and use most commonly. The Blah, in it's purest form, (which is almost entirely derived from Tolkien's Black Speech and the Shadowclan's version of Orcish, entirely meaning every little word that can be translated gets translated) is used mostly by shaman and elders and even then during special occasions or rituals. Many of the older orcs speak common fluently. The Blah and the Bastardized Blah will always be far superior and you be frowned upon for using too much common tongue among us, although using it when needed is fine, either to translate or express a word that is not in our vocabulary, as we all do this from time to time. Our language is so important to the preservation of our culture, that if the Rex himself began speaking common tongue as his chosen language, any Wargoth worth his salt would be obliged to challenge him on the matter.

Goblins age same as orcs. Orcs are capable of living as long as elves. The only reason you rarely ever see any orcs older than 200 years old is because we live much more dangerously then they do and many of us die in battle. Goblins would also face a high-risk lifestyle, as many of them die in large explosions, become crushed under the weight of their killing-machines or get lobbed into fortresses when we run out of ammunition for our siege weapons. How long you live as a player is really up to you though, many of us are nearing 200 and I have no plan of dying anytime soon. Previously, we were aging every year, according to the in-game passing of time. Mogroka has come up with a pretty interesting concept though, that we would actually begin aging every season (1 real-life week) that we experienced a battle or a war or once every two seasons if we did not experience a battle or a war during that time. This is likely to become our new thing. Goblins play a significant role in combat, so they would likely fall under the same aging system once we get accustomed to it.

More lore for the goblins would be very welcome. It's a dwindling sub-race, always has been, and I'd really like to see it rise up there on par with orcs. We've got a few goblins still kicking around that can probably answer your questions better then I can. Brevias and Varag are two of them. The Grilo Clan is another, although I'm not sure how active they've been lately. Feel free to develop and post any lore you've got, although Mogroka and a few of us older orcs might want to nit-pick through it to make sure there's nothing that clashes with the lore. The orcs have a history of just writing our own lore and stuff and making it happen, so you're in good territory.

Edit: Blawharag also brought up a good point. Goblin machinery, to include war machines and traps, will still strive to kill honorably. It wouldn't use poison or immobilization and it would generally be geared for quick, clean kills. Orcs generally don't bother with torture and pro-longed maiming for pleasure, we take pleasure in the kill itself, rather than gloating over the drawn-out suffering of the weak. We generally prefer to make a clean kill and move onto the next target. We want our enemy strong when we fight them, so we generally wouldn't poison them or trap them in a hole and shoot arrows down at them for example. Goblin war machines blow holes in things and kill, traps simply kill.

[Gloifur 1]

1. Do they speak blah? I wasn't able to find out if Goblins had tusks or not, in reference to that as well. Do they have pointy ears as they are the descendants of Elves?

We speak blah and no we aren't related to those damn twiggies.

2. In terms of combat prowess, how would a Goblin be viewed. In reference to this, how would a goblin go about making weapons such as cannon for the Orcs? Is there a sort of secret laboratory for Goblins or what?

I roleplay a goblin who is big (for a goblin) and not good at building, I rely on agility to fight mainly using a bow.

3. Can anyone make me a good Goblin skin?

Not I.

4. Just in general, how should a Goblin react to certain races as well as other Goblins and even Orcs for that matter.

Depends on your character, I am generally deferential to the larger orcs and hostile to pinkies. In regards to Klomping I imagined a goblin klomp to be a sort of building contest (war machine or something along those lines) in my bio.