Dawn Of Another Day

[Goldrim 1422]

The sun slowly rises as Gromgok leaves a note at Jaur's home, a vague smile appears on his face as he heads out to the Rex Palace, he lumbers up the stairs as he pans his upward to meet Pok, headbutting him with a stern expression across his face "Tayke care ob our brudders agh sisters, nub forget lat promiz tu me." Gromgok says, as Pok nods in return.

"When Juar ask where me am, lat blah her dat me am 'dere when she need me." Pok nods once again as Gromgok pats him on the cheek, "Tayke care brudder, peep lat soon."

{ Taking a break from Rex as I have some things to take care of real life, the summer is quite time consuming and I'd rather spend my time outside than behind the PC currently, this obviously does not mean I am leaving or anything, so I am putting Pok in charge right now, and Pok, keep your promise. }

[Noahjam325 53]

((You actually can't just give him Rex. He'll have to fight the other Wargoths for it like a normal Rex Klomp.))

[VonAulus 2082]

((I agree, you can not just give him Rex.))

[bungo 3965]

[[if any Wargoth wishes to challenge him, they can, although there are none that are active/can so he will automatically get it.]]

[VonAulus 2082]

((Was there a fight rply? I do not think that a Rex can just leave his position to someone else.))

[Blawharag 277]

((Actually Bungo, you are wrong on two fronts:

If Goldrim is leaving, or even breaking, the Gorkil Wargoth title is open to be decided by a general klomp among the Gorkil elders. Which means there is another Wargoth who would technically inherit the Rex position as well. Pok would have to challenge that new Gorkil for the Rex title.

If Goldrim stepped down as Rex before taking off, that means the Rex title is open for a Rex Klomp among all Wargoths, including whichever Gorkil Wargoth steps up to replace Goldrim.

The Rex title is not simply gifted, it is earned. Always.))

[bungo 3965]

[[The thing with the Gorkil Elders is that not many of you are active, I understand that you have a job and everything Blaw although we can't have an inactive Rex. The only Active Gorkil Elder would be Thore and he does not feel like being an orc anymore at all. Even if it would be inherited by a Gorkil, which one that is active? Any Wargoth that feels the want can Challenge Pok for their claim, if you feel that he earnt it unfairly, challenge him in RP. Not everything always follows the rules.

PS: This is no disrespect to you Blaw or any of the Orcs, I'm just stating that we need a leader that is Active and can be Active. Pok is the only one that is a Wargoth, wants to do it and is active. He may not be the best leader though he's active enough to be leader.]]

[Blawharag 277]

((If there is an activity problem with a leader, anyone is welcome to call them out for it, and the individual should than step down if they are indeed inactive. Goldrim recognized there would be an activity problem and stepped down. I imagine others have the strength to do that as well.

I don't care for your OOC reasons here. RPly the Rex title is not forked over. There will be a Rex klomp after a new Gorkil Wargoth is selected. Any OOC issues that arise you are welcome to act accordingly when they do. I imagine anyone who takes up the mantle of Rex understands they need to be active to hold the position. Many Gorkil elders are active, just on other characters that are non-gorkil. The same applies to elders for other respective clans. Your superlative speech that Pok is the only possible option and therefore the only reasonable choice is silly and has no place. RP will not be forsaken unduly.))

[bungo 3965]

[[i'm fine with this discussion happening IC, It's just that It's happening OOC which brought me to the conclusion that this was OOC. If you have a problem with all of this IC, you could always just challenge Pok is what I'm stating. There's plenty of people that can become Rex, but not all of them want to or have the time to do it. It's just another Job, it's not fun or anything of the sorts being Rex.]]

[Goldrim 1422]

{ A while ago I actually made sure with Mogroka if it was alright to pass on a Rex title if one cannot fufill that role anymore, he was completely fine with it, because if anyone has a problem with it as it seems I might aswell just do it in a klomp.

[Austin 697]

((You actually can't just give him Rex. He'll have to fight the other Wargoths for it like a normal Rex Klomp.))

Their isn't a Rex Klomp anymore Wargoths can just challenge the Rex whenever they want but if they lose they must wait 2 weeks.

[Noahjam325 53]

Their isn't a Rex Klomp anymore Wargoths can just challenge the Rex whenever they want but if they lose they must wait 2 weeks.

((I know, but that fight between each individual is still titled "Rex Klomp."))

[Blawharag 277]

((This discussion shouldn't happen ICly, Bungo. That is one thing I am saying.

@Goldrim:

The title should be earned in a Rex klomp. Either in a duel between you or Pok, or in a general melee/tournament where you step down to go on an IC trip of some sort and people have to take your place. If Gromgok were to, however, just get up and say "Guys, I can't be Rex, this kid over here is WAY better than me, but rather than have him prove it, I am just going to give him the Rex title" there would be problems. Blawharag, for one, would see Gromgok as a weak and sniveling loser with no gut or spine to your name and immediately write him off as a weak and pathetic oomie, as only in oomie cultures has Blawharag ever witnessed the passing of leadership to someone who could not win in a fair fight. Blawharag would be incapable of ever showing respect for Gromgok again, because despite Gromgok's combat, this action is basically the equivalent to throwing the fight. In fact, from an Orcish perspective, throwing a fight is exactly what Gromgok would be doing, except he didn't even bother to at least pretend to try.

Basically, Blawharag would never again recognize you as a leader, perhaps not even as an Orc. He would actually be ashamed to admit Gromgok was his brother, and would only ever refer to Gromgok as a whitewash coward. Refusing to acknowledge him as even a Orc, much less a Gorkil.

Giving up the title actually goes straight against Orcish culture. Just handing it over, without even pretending to have a klomp for it, is just wrong. I can't tell you how many times I have sat down IC and explained to other ambassadors how Orcish culture was different from their culture. How Orcish culture chose it's leaders by their strength, and why that was such an important part of who the Orcs are. Handing over the Rex title is literally the dead opposite of that. There is no reason to just give it to someone IC. Not that I can see at least. Not as an Orc.))

[Cracker 4570]

( just feign a klomp or open the title. For RP sake. I don't like how we've been arranging a lot of things OOC, so something IC would be good )

[VonAulus 2082]

((I agree with Blawharag and Cracker, things need to happen IC'ly, not ooc'ly. if we give up the rp this rp on this one point, what will happen when Pok does not want to be Rex again? Will you just decide to hand it to your buddy ooc'y and refuse to rp it?))