((Skahirun))

[Dyn 149]

First of all

You would never, ever, ever, ever, ever -repeat the word for all eternity- be able to break iron chains with a iron sword. This is not even taking into consideration if it was a new metal that was even stronger than iron. Even rusted, old, disgusting iron chain, nothing special, that were holding you would NEVER EVER be broken by a iron sword. Sorry to bust your bubble, but no matter what metal they were you could not break them. That is just logic. Unless you hit it with such force even the hulk could not amount, iron on iron would never break, especially iron chains.

If you had a iron saw, and tried sawing through it, that is different, but just sitting there hitting away at it with a iron sword is just stupid, and there claims that you cannot break it are utterly and profoundly true. Not sure where you got the idea that a iron sword could just magically break through iron chains. For reference, this;

Is what they would look like. You would have to be a drunk Irish baby to think you could break those.

Carrying on You say you sliced at his back with a diamond sword, whilst he was in turn wearing diamond armor. Now I am confused, what did you expect to happen? Did you expect his armor to split open under the mighty swing of your elven arm? Did you expect him to kneel in defeat after taking a swipe to the back? It's lolzy if you did. Sorry to bust your bubble, but a diamond sword swiping diamond armor would literally not do /anything/ outside maybe scratch it and MAYBE leave a uncomfortable dent. So I am not sure what you thought would happen in that situation either... For reference;

Take that armor, and then make it even THICKER, even HEAVIER, and even more DURABLE and then you will get what he was wearing. You might make a unsightly scratch, though not much else. Had you had a gold sword, things would have been different, but to swipe diamond on diamond will do little to damage the armor.

Lastly and to top it all off I am curious why you would do this. Why come on to the orc rp forums, publicly humiliate not only Zogtar, a orc, but also MANY MANY other orcs and people by asking for the approved lore as if it is your duty. I'm not understanding why you did not go to the nation leader, Cracker, go to a GM for more info, or do this in private messages. You try to sound all nice and understanding, but in reality you just came here and tried to humiliate people because YOU don't understand something. Not cool, I would suggest handling this in pms next time.

Oh boy, back to flame me again. Let's do this.

ICly, if the man who saved your life is right beside you, struggling to live, you'll do what you can to help him when you know you're at the end of your rope. I never said "Ohyeah, I hit it with a sword do they're broken". Instead I tried to break them, failed, was told I'd need atleast seven hits, screen, etc. So sorry for playing my character Void, never meant to hurt your feelings.

It wasn't the protection of the armor I questioned, it was the amount of agility it granted. I didn't bring up how my strikes didn't/barely affected him. Even if he wore iron, it would've taken quite a few strikes. They already explained how Skahirun was actually another RP of diamond which I was unaware of at the time. Disappointing of you not to read the entire thread.

Asking for approved Lore? I don't think so. I asked for the properties and statistics of the armor I never knew about until now. I humiliated someone? I asked a question. I gave examples of why I asked said question. I gave a reason as to why I was asking it here and not asking Zogtar. I have no personal vendetta against Zog, he is a rather good RPer as of my recent encounters with him. I explained why I didn't ask Cracker, as am not very updated on events or happening in the orcan nation. I barely pay attention to my own nation unless invited to. If Zog had a problem with this, I would've gladly changed/removed it and he has no reaso

n not to confront me about it. I play the nice act? I can be nice to a group of people who I have had little to no interaction with. I can also be nice to people who act the same, just as I can be mean to those being mean to me. I even said that if an orc takes offense to this, I'd gladly change it.

This mainly seems like an excuse to call me out due to a recent event involving the two of us. Sorry if things didnt go your way. The extra time was entirely your fault for trying to get around the rules. Any comments?

[DrakeHaze. 2524]

If you RP having Diamond armor or solid diamond weaponry it is powergaming basically. There is no way to craft diamond into armor or into a sword IRL so unless Magic was involved in crafting Diamond armor and such then it is impossible, therefore it is usually RP'd as heavy armor or Iron plate or something. Grool has already explained that the lore was hidden or deleted by a LM even though it was accepted awhile ago. I've seen them RP making Skahiron armor and it is complete and udder pain in the butt. It's like 30 minutes of RP ._.

Anyway point is I think all the questions have been answered so this should be locked unless you have more questions.

[Dyn 149]

If you RP having Diamond armor or solid diamond weaponry it is powergaming basically. There is no way to craft diamond into armor or into a sword IRL so unless Magic was involved in crafting Diamond armor and such then it is impossible, therefore it is usually RP'd as heavy armor or Iron plate or something. Grool has already explained that the lore was hidden or deleted by a LM even though it was accepted awhile ago. I've seen them RP making Skahiron armor and it is complete and udder pain in the butt. It's like 30 minutes of RP ._.

Anyway point is I think all the questions have been answered so this should be locked unless you have more questions.

I'm fine with this. I've learned a bit and every bit helps. I'll ask Gaius/Hawk/anyone if they can help me. Also, gold is a flimsy metal and yet it is the most powerful of weapon types.

[El Ricktador 1394]

I've seen them RP making Skahiron armor and it is complete and udder pain in the butt. It's like 30 minutes of RP ._.

How's it a pain in the butt? You're still roleplaying. :3 You should be having fun. Violence RP isn't the only source of entertainment. Personally, I enjoy roleplaying making my lapis axes. That might just be me though.

Not saying all you/Orcs do is violence RP. So please don't pull out your pitch forks and chase me into the barn. :P

[V0idsoldier 1139]

Any comments?

No, you seem to have not read a single thing I said, and instead just tried to sound smart. I did not flame you at all, this has nothing to do with any grudge I bear against you, and quite frankly I think you are childish for even bringing it up. You take this as flames, when I am simply calling you out on stupid brash actions fueled by rage and brought to a community of bystanders who have nothing to do with your cause and yet you persist to call people wrong.

I have nothing to say to that, if you wish to let your brash over reactive mind control you, so be it, but I call people out on stupidity, not on grudges, that is why I posted. How you can take that as flame is astonishing, fact remains that you made many, many more mistakes than Zogtar did, and even made a post to call him out which could have EASILY been made into a private pm.

Bravo :ugeek:

[Austin 697]

For the love of god I knew this would evolve into a flame war. Demon, take it to PM's with Cracker. Include VonAulus and Zogtar in the message also. Can an FM freaking lock this before another OOC hatewar of nofun goes down. The hostility in this thread is too damn high!

[meg 1994]

Jeez Void, do you have to call people out on every little thing? Demon was just curious about the Armor. No need to call him stupid and overreactive I suggest this thread be locked soon, as things have evolved into more arguing *Sigh*

[Shar'ku/jenspelao 410]

Geez, I was uncomfortable. You harassed me when I made an attempt to do anything OOCly. Also, you NEVER threw away my bag until I threw a knife at Italian's leg. Even then, why/how would a man keep his swords in his bag? I never said once my swords were in my bag, you never emoted searching my body for weapons. Don't like it? Be more careful. I always carry a sword on my back if I am able (Usually the diamond sword if it's a choice between that and gold) and a sword at my side (the gold sword). I merely RP'd my elf using the last of his strength to try and get his friend (somewhat friend) free before dying, simple as can be. This isn't really about that though, I'm just trying to find out about Skahirun.

Again, no. It wasn't impossible to get an iron sword as none of you bothered to search me for weapons even once. You threw my bag away, congrats. Again, it doesn't really make sense to keep your swords there. I didn't expect that I would win regardless, so no matter what, I lost anyways. Dyn is a mortal. He can only take oh so much before he falls.

At the time, when I /seen Vonebs it said banned. And I see now.

It wasn't really about the losing, I've lost a lot. It was more about the comments they were making. I was gonna stick it out longer, but Jenspelao just seemed to me like he was trying to piss me off. So I left, gave them all my items, and let them continue on their merry way without any interference from me. I had a legit RP reason to die anyways, so it doesn't really matter.

I don't see any kind of harassment in the screenshots, actually I wanted to keep the RP flowing, if there is any kind of trolling or harassment post screenshots, but stop making false statements without proof only because you are probably mad.

[V0idsoldier 1139]

Jeez Void, do you have to call people out on every little thing? Demon was just curious about the Armor. No need to call him stupid and overreactive I suggest this thread be locked soon, as things have evolved into more arguing *Sigh*

The amount of hypocrisy seeping off this post is... disturbing. What did you expect this thread to turn out to? He came onto a public forums, called someone out and demanded proof. So yes, I in turn called him out on his own brash ways and rather dismal emotes. Should you have a problem with me doing so, that is the fault of your own mind, not my own.

I never called him stupid, or over reactive, I told him he is acting over reactive and performed stupid actions. I am not so brash as to generalize someone so quickly, but it is nice for you to try to stand up for him... even if he did the same exact thing your telling me not to.

Point is, I did not flame. I did not come here and insult him, or troll him, which I easily could. I called him out on his bullshit, and he tried to pin that on me as flaming him. He can try all he wants but the fact remains that I wont just stand aside as a trusted community is put into turmoil by such a... inconvenience. Though yes, this thread should have been locked long before it reached this many pages, for as soon as it sprouted up from its seedy over reactive roots, you should have seen someone calling out the bullshit.

I'm always, and will always be willing to stand up and tell someone they are wrong. Don't get me wrong, I hate Demon with all my tiny little heart, but it has nothing to do with me calling him out, so don't get too excited. I think I have made all the points I needed to make.

[Braxis 813]

Locking the Thread, If you have questions of their lore and such. You should Either pm the leader of the nation or the master of the lore or group. Do not post threads like this in the future as you can see the only turn into arguments and flame threads that are taken off topic. So if this is done again action will be taken. No warn status are being handed out this is a warning to all on this thread.