Major Orcish Reform Poll

[DrakeHaze. 2524]

I agree with Mog.One thing we could do is what the Dothraki in game of thrones do.They have a bunch of nomadic hordes and a main city.THe hordes go around all the place pillaging and travelling and then meet back in the city.If we do this it would be better for new players and help us still have that nation status and not just be a group of murderes

When I think of this I always seem to get the idea of the 'nomadic hordes' being the different clans going out and doing pillaging and stuff their way with their own traditions, then returning to the main Orc hub to boast about their clan's strength and stuff. I like this idea as well as what Mog said. Surely we needn't go full nomad. I think we should focus more on clan traditions and really emphasize what it means to be in a clan.

Another thing we should take a look at is Whitewashes. Why is any player drawn towards being a whitewash? What is it that makes RPing a Whitewash appealing in the eyes of a player? I honestly don't know.

[VonAulus 2082]

The strength of an orc without having to speak like you are stupid.

Adding more after dinner.

-edit-

Okay, now my views.

1. Rex

I think Rex should be more of an IC position instead of an ooc position. The Rex is just the strongest orc IC, not the leader of the race ooc. Sure, it could happen that it becomes the same personat certain times, but, all the orcs should be striving for Rex. It should be a goal of most orcs to look for the chance to become the Rex. I do not see orcs taking advantage of weakness of other orcs. Where is the plotting to gather power and glory in the arena, ripping away the work of another. This would provide good rp, with the rapid rise and fall of orcs from positions. Warboss's should not be a stationary position, they should have to fight to survive. I know people want there to be one Rex that stays for awhile to provide centralized organization, but I think a battle for the 'throne' would provide better roleplay.

2. Nomad and Shaman City

I support this completely. The Rex should send off groups of orcs with a mission to complete, and they have to live off the land and the people there till they complete the mission. A Warboss should command a group of Nobs who have their troops constantly training for the chance the kill pinkie scum. Orcs also fight with each other if I am correct. I see not inter clan wars that should be happening.

3. Clans

I elaborated a little above on this. Clans should have an identity and you should have loyalty to it. A nob's troops would most likely be made up of lower clan mates. These groups of orcs would compete with other groups from their clan and from other clans. This would also make it easier for players to join the orcs. All they would have to do is find a Nob who is recruiting and fall in with the rest of the men. Just a suggestion.

4. Shamans

We need moar.

Also under shamans, maybe elders of the clans need to have stories they tell to enrich the lore of each of the orc clans.

5. War oriented.

We need to be focusing on war more. We do not trade, we take. Let the other races do the mining, they are just ultimately making us richer. Each orc should be trying to acquire loot to outfit themselves and others with better armor and weapons. Goblins should be engineering new machines to bring down that gate in newer and exciting ways.

6. Fear

People need to fear the orcs once again.

This was covered well by Urara.

Just a few suggestions.

[The Cleaning Crew 571]

I like all the stuff listed under communal, so I've voted for that. However, we used to have all of that AND a main city. Nowadays, we have the nation status but almost no orcs actually live in the nation or communicate with each other like they used to. I know this is a temporary map, but my god, we could at least have a trading area set up or something. It's probably because there's so few orcs left. I've actually met more goblins than full-sized orcs on this map. That never even came close to happening on the other maps.

So what I want to know is, will we have a main city or area to live in? I know if we become nomads, it won't win us any new orcs. People like to have a place to put their stuff.

[Mingpow321 285]

-Snip-

Many people, including orcs, have made the decision to just avoid the temporary map until 2.5/3.0. There are also a fair number of people concentrating their efforts solely on the building of 3.0.

These pinkie humpers should be MOCKED and SHAMED.

That made my night... :D

[Sultan 3953]

Alot of the guys brought up Orcish rp in Aegies and how we went below in Auslon I tend to disagree.

Because if you remember in Auslon at the start the first two three months, we had over 35+ Active orc players.

Our Military was at its strongest, we had two tribute nations paying us not harm them Alras and Salvus, we destroyed Renatus, and the High Elfs, We fought a few battles against the Dwarfs and won most.

As proof of our player-base just take a look at this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqCtaF6hINc

Look at how big that line was, and even count the archers up the trees, this was at-least 3 months into Auslon. This was only a week or two after I gave up Rex.

So what are we missing, and what did we do wrong?

[VonAulus 2082]

We stopped being at war after that, our Rex's do not want us to go to war or fight anyone. Orcs are getting banished because they kill some humans who we are allied to.

Then Goldrim became less active, our PVP hungry badass.

People stopped roleplaying as orcs and just logged on TS. When people say there is no rP in Strigsgoi, and I am somewhat guilty of this, then you are not trying to fix that. All you need is two orcs and you can go hunting or klomping.

We also had less veterans to guide us and train us to follow in the orcish traditions.

We also started losing battles to the dwarves and their insta forts and canons. Oh well, let us not dread on the negative.

We stopped receiving the oil shipments from Mog as well.

[Arkelos 1027]

Well, I for one would love to see the Shamans numbers come up, I'm going to be bringing back Syrila back in 2.5, and shes going to be very, very dark and scary. Shes seen things on her travels that still affect her mentality, and her bloodlust, from not allowing herself to freely kill while in Holm has broke loose at this point.

Shes a fighter, and ready to die for Krug and her brothers. She would die, just to be with her lifemate, Mogroka again. So shes going to go all out, and strike fear into those who don't see her as a threat.

What we need to do, is to maybe advertise our shamanism more. Like the Clerics and Druids do, both are religious guilds that have control over holy power and nature, while we have control over spirits and elements.

Why not make the Shamans a council? They could take care of the new orcs, or accepted honorary orcs to become shamans, and one could be picked to teach a pupil.

How the council would work

Farseer Teacher - Mogroka'Gorkil [Can change, I know hes busy]

Elementalist Teacher - Lex'Lur

Lutauman Teacher - Blawharag [Can change, I know hes busy]

Witchdoctor Teacher - Brevias'Lur

Those four lead the council, as Motsham Shamans, This council would decide what goes on around in the shaman community as a whole, maybe learn from each other the ways of the other forms of Shamanism. Taking in personal pupils, and then those who have talent.

Those who have talent, would be offered to watch each form of Shamanism, done by the more experienced roleplayers, giving their choices more depth. They decide if they want to learn one, two, or if the council allows it, all four forms.

This council can also help expand the lore of Shamanism to brighter or darker times, then publish it to the community for review, maybe acquiring the assistance of more well versed writers.

These four, would ultimately lead, while a minor council of pupils who have "completed" their training [because one really never completes training, you always need to practice to stay on top^] would remain on a lower council, and should a member of the Higher council resign, they could be groomed into the higher council, being taught the inner workings of the council and what they do.

To be a part of this Higher council, one would need a Teacher app, or be a grandfathered teacher. Then go through some more rigorous testing in RP. The remaining council would decide to accept the new High Council member in, or to keep them as a lower council member.

Too long? Here is what I suggested in a nutshell:

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• Shamans become a much more publicly posted topic amongst orcs.
  
• Shamans have a council of Elders, controlled by teachers in their specific form
  
• A lower council is made of Shamans who have learned what they can.
  
• Higher Council members MUST have an accepted Teaching MA.
  

[Blundermore 2741]

I do think that part about needing a smaller city does make sense...

Orcs don't really need massive highrising city states, infact, why would they even build such? The deserts are harsh to both those who live there and the dwellings that occupy the landscape. Anything an Orc should make should fit a purpose, not look nice. Its' that spartan concept that attracted me to the Orc's culture in the first place, because it is so Alien compared to the Humans, building their grand and over the top structures, to the Elves, making things more difficult by building in trees, all the way up to Dwarves, who make it more difficult for themselves by cutting their cities out of a friggin' mountian for God's sakes.

Orcs don't need a lot of space for a city, because really, all they need is a place to Klomp, a place to commune, maybe a market and a seat of power. With shamanistic structures dotting the surrounding landscape.

The rest of the time, the Orcs are out doing what they do, being hunter gatherers. Be it through banditry or just hunting...

Where was this concept Orcs had where beutiful things were ugly to them and ugly things were beutiful to them? Because I remembered that Mogroka's character on a few occasions commented that things like Elven women etc were ugly to look at...

[craotor 617]

Where was this concept Orcs had where beutiful things were ugly to them and ugly things were beutiful to them? Because I remembered that Mogroka's character on a few occasions commented things like Elven women etc were ugly to look at...

This is wrong.Ugly is ugly and that is atractive for orks

[Sultan 3953]

This is wrong.Ugly is ugly and that is atractive for orks

Actually reread what he said, he is right.

He said beautiful things, are ugly disgusting to orcs, and ugly things are beautiful to an orcs eye.

[Shar'ku/jenspelao 410]

We stopped being at war after that, our Rex's do not want us to go to war or fight anyone. Orcs are getting banished because they kill some humans who we are allied to.

Then Goldrim became less active, our PVP hungry badass.

People stopped roleplaying as orcs and just logged on TS. When people say there is no rP in Strigsgoi, and I am somewhat guilty of this, then you are not trying to fix that. All you need is two orcs and you can go hunting or klomping.

We also had less veterans to guide us and train us to follow in the orcish traditions.

We also started losing battles to the dwarves and their insta forts and canons. Oh well, let us not dread on the negative.

We stopped receiving the oil shipments from Mog as well.

I always tried to have as many orcs as possible online, made wargames, training and a few funny hunting event, I tried to keep them online, but I could not sadly

-Ipod, going to write more later

[Austin 697]

We stopped being at war after that, our Rex's do not want us to go to war or fight anyone. Orcs are getting banished because they kill some humans who we are allied to.

What the hell are you talking about grool? Stop talking about stuff you don't know about, I asked every day for two solid weeks OOC to brave paw to do a battle with them, I always received an excuse or just no answer, of course Rex wants us to go to war, please do not make **** up, I did ask the elves every other day and they always said yes, but gave an excuse o changed the subject. When I finally did get a yes, the map got destroyed a day before the battle. I'm sorry but watch your words and make sure you know what you are talking about when you make statements like these.

[craotor 617]

Actually reread what he said, he is right.

He said beautiful things, are ugly disgusting to orcs, and ugly things are beautiful to an orcs eye.

Reread it I was wrong.And on this topic most orcs dont follow it

Soory I'm in hospital with a needle in my arm,cant realy write fast or correctly

[Shar'ku/jenspelao 410]

I like all the stuff listed under communal, so I've voted for that. However, we used to have all of that AND a main city.

We should have this.....this is how orcs used to be in aegis according to my knowledge.

[VonAulus 2082]

What the hell are you talking about grool? Stop talking about stuff you don't know about, I asked every day for two solid weeks OOC to brave paw to do a battle with them, I always received an excuse or just no answer, of course Rex wants us to go to war, please do not make **** up, I did ask the elves every other day and they always said yes, but gave an excuse o changed the subject. When I finally did get a yes, the map got destroyed a day before the battle. I'm sorry but watch your words and make sure you know what you are talking about when you make statements like these.

Then why did everytime I wanted to raid someone you told me no? Why did everytime I did something in RP you yelled at me OOC? Why did everytime Pok get on you guys yelled at me and blamed me OOC for things that happened in RP? Yet you never took one action against men in RP. I know you did organize that battle with the elves and their fort. But I recall the dwarves showing up in full battle kit with out even knowing we were coming. Obvious meta gaming but you told me not to complain. Before you tell me that I have no idea what I am talking about, remember, I am there everyday as well. I am not as stupid as you sometimes treat me.