Ned Lud 1260 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I'll make all of you a fair deal right here and now. You role-play the first half of the fight and I'll PvP the last half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Bili, I expected better of you. To clarify, during the poll that the staff took, there was a slight edge of players in favor of PvP... regardless, however, this player, as do all players, deserve to be treated with respect. It's straight up rude and impolite to automatically assume a player stating an opinion, regardless of which opinion it was, is doing so out of selfish or immature reasons. That goes for Hylian too, now that I think about it. Please guys. We can have our disagreements. But let's be civil about them, especially those of us who are on staff and are serving as representatives of the server and what it stands for. Jchizz, the many PvP default intelligent folks such as Ned Lud, Aislin and I who headed the PvP default arguments have been absolutely civil. Instead we want to point at each other's bad apples and reflect their conduct on the whole... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jchizz 115 Share Posted August 17, 2013 It was a message to everyone, Gaius. Both sides have their supporters who have argued respectfully, and have those who have been hostile, rude, and/or trolly. It's a message to everyone, regardless of side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lita 677 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I'll admit, I'm dissappointed. I was vastly in support of PVP default, on two conditions. Knockout Plugin - PVP battles could be over with and then the results RPed out. Nexus - The results wouldn't be highly random. Seeing as neither of these things have happened, I'm glad that my primary characters have a form of magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCabra (Soda) 1519 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Bili, I expected better of you. To clarify, during the poll that the staff took, there was a slight edge of players in favor of PvP... regardless, however, this player, as do all players, deserve to be treated with respect. It's straight up rude and impolite to automatically assume a player stating an opinion, regardless of which opinion it was, is doing so out of selfish or immature reasons. That goes for Hylian too, now that I think about it. Please guys. We can have our disagreements. But let's be civil about them, especially those of us who are on staff and are serving as representatives of the server and what it stands for. I am expressing my distaste that he is acting like his is the only opinion that matters - yes, his opinion matters. But so do all of the other opinions here, and they should be respected as well. Yes, it was not exactly 'loving', but frankly I'm a bit short with all of the complaining that is going on right now. Let the system run for a couple days, weeks, and maybe even months, to see if it goes well. Give it a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted August 17, 2013 It was a message to everyone, Gaius. Both sides have their supporters who have argued respectfully, and have those who have been hostile, rude, and/or trolly. It's a message to everyone, regardless of side. Well calling them out is a form of shaming, please refrain lest you be considered hostile :3 By the way, people who are RP purists, sign up for Domestic Magic and gain your RP default privilege back :3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirbubbley 26 Share Posted August 17, 2013 was to big for an update so ill post it here, GG LOTC, you rly screwed it up this time. Honestly, i had hopes for the server with Mog gone. i came back, i started working on test builds for things. now you toss in pvp default... becuase ppl needed another reason to get rapid fire clicker programs? pvp default was awful in Aegis, anybody who says otherwise didnt travel the king's road enough. this is the second dumbest thing i have seen... LOTC is now reduced to any old server where you can build and pvp for fun... you sicken me. the last 2 times i have takne a break i knew i might come back. this time.... unless LOTC even gets a glimmer of its former glory, you wont see me around. not that any of you give a damn. enjoy your server, to all the people who piss and moan on the forums, you got your wish. writhe in the filth. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiiNg 78 Share Posted August 17, 2013 2pok laughs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinsir99 526 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Well calling them out is a form of shaming, please refrain lest you be considered hostile :3 By the way, people who are RP purists, sign up for Domestic Magic and gain your RP default privilege back :3 Domestic Magic is non-combat so it doesn't work to solve it :I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aislin 4354 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I came in here ready to wrinkle my nose angrily at my screen based on what I was reading. Instead yaaaaaaaaaay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylian the Heretic 233 Share Posted August 17, 2013 was to big for an update so ill post it here, GG LOTC, you rly screwed it up this time. Honestly, i had hopes for the server with Mog gone. i came back, i started working on test builds for things. now you toss in pvp default... becuase ppl needed another reason to get rapid fire clicker programs? pvp default was awful in Aegis, anybody who says otherwise didnt travel the king's road enough. this is the second dumbest thing i have seen... LOTC is now reduced to any old server where you can build and pvp for fun... you sicken me. the last 2 times i have takne a break i knew i might come back. this time.... unless LOTC even gets a glimmer of its former glory, you wont see me around. not that any of you give a damn. enjoy your server, to all the people who piss and moan on the forums, you got your wish. writhe in the filth. lel And yeah. Here's my f**king master's thesis if you really need it. 1. People vote for a reason. 2. The reason is that they like one more than the other. 3. People who like PVP more like it because: • They are good at it • They enjoy PVP • They use hacks or mods • They have a character who is more powerful in PVP than RP fighting I still see lots of this coming down to items. People opposed to PVP because they dislike it because: • They aren't good at PVP • They don't enjoy PVP • They have some kind of unfair disadvantage • They have a character who is more powerful in RP fights than he/she/it is in PVP bloop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSnowMan 318 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Care and thought was put into it and the staff cared and thought that this was a better idea. We began as a PvP default server and were successful for several months and then a similar decision was made to go to role-play default. The three or four of you that represent the majority don't seem to understand that. Those of us that support PvP default have endured this **** for over a year now with minimal complaint. We've continued to contribute to the community and role-play and now we've finally won the long, hard fight. Interest in Lord of the Craft has declined at a 45% angle while interest in Minecraft has risen at a 45% angle ever since we transitioned from Aegis to Asulon and switched to role-play default as one of many changes. Those of y'all that have a problem with it can pick up your ball and go home. This server will survive without you. We're crunching numbers and trimming fat here. That's what servers do to guarantee that the machine survives and clanks onward. We're at a 50/50 split on PvP default versus role-play default and we know for a fact that PvP default was a successful factor for the server two years ago. So we can afford to risk losing 50% of our uncooperative playerbase if it has the potential to attract the numbers that we experienced back when PvP was default. This is essentially a business run by volunteers. If you can't hang, go to the competition. There are plenty of customers waiting in line. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirbubbley 26 Share Posted August 17, 2013 lel And yeah. Here's my f**king master's thesis if you really need it. 1. People vote for a reason. 2. The reason is that they like one more than the other. 3. People who like PVP more like it because: • They are good at it • They enjoy PVP • They use hacks or mods • They have a character who is more powerful in PVP than RP fighting I still see lots of this coming down to items. People opposed to PVP because they dislike it because: • They aren't good at PVP • They don't enjoy PVP • They have some kind of unfair disadvantage • They have a character who is more powerful in RP fights than he/she/it is in PVP bloop lets see.... im very good at PvP, i like PvP. thats why i play on a f**king pvp server when im bored. i dont rly have an unfair disadvantage other then crap internet. my character is an ex militant. he is perfect for PvP but this is a RP server. if ppl wantta PvP open an arena, thats always been how we would get players PvP itch under control. not goign right to beating the crap out of your left click. the people who prefer PvP over RP combat most likely hit some place, if nto all acorss, this list : - probly suck at RP -probly use hacks, or special mouse that allows quicker input then the normal. -are probly an oren human zealot if you wold rather PvP then you should get on battlecraft and not ruin the RP server's becuase you wanta make a jesus/spartan/ninja swordmaster with no real IC RP so you can stroke your e-peen by clicking 1 mouse button rly rly quick, or using a turbo click program. so once again, PvP default is stupid and is jsut another addition that ruins the already crappy RP quality of the current LOTC. now go back to the filth you PvP crazed oren zealots. enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nug 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2013 lets see.... im very good at PvP, i like PvP. thats why i play on a f**king pvp server when im bored. i dont rly have an unfair disadvantage other then crap internet. my character is an ex militant. he is perfect for PvP but this is a RP server. if ppl wantta PvP open an arena, thats always been how we would get players PvP itch under control. not goign right to beating the crap out of your left click. the people who prefer PvP over RP combat most likely hit some place, if nto all acorss, this list : - probly suck at RP -probly use hacks, or special mouse that allows quicker input then the normal. -are probly an oren human zealot if you wold rather PvP then you should get on battlecraft and not ruin the RP server's becuase you wanta make a jesus/spartan/ninja swordmaster with no real IC RP so you can stroke your e-peen by clicking 1 mouse button rly rly quick, or using a turbo click program. so once again, PvP default is stupid and is jsut another addition that ruins the already crappy RP quality of the current LOTC. now go back to the filth you PvP crazed oren zealots. enjoy. You are trolling, right? Right...? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedan The Bard 350 Share Posted August 17, 2013 No. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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