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By the way, the Dwarves have A LOT of proof, we've just been debating, on several occasions every time we hear Cappy does something that warrants a brief dislike and desire to get him removed, but we've never actually done so, which I wouldn't be surprised given his new adminship if I saw a compilation post of some of the things we've got hiding away. If the admins want a looksie at some examples just hop in our TS.

Example Modreq Dwarf Modreq: Bandits came, no rp-killed several dwarves, OOC shouted for around 10 minutes Cappys Decision: Ban two dwarves for OOC shouting, do nothing of the raiding party. Biased Much? And this isn't, the only instance in which something like this has happened. On countless occasions have the dwarves saught to gather every piece of disrespect and biased actions Cappy has handed out to them simply to bring out the kinds of things he's done. The Dwarves won't stay silent, and me saying these kinds of things will of course, make him much encouraged to continue these actions against us in spite of the things I've said, but these things just have to be said. Guess that's GG for LotC dwarves.

If you've ever been a part of a #1 guild on any game, where a superior group of players are in some way greater than the majority of other players, there will be those who show a heartedly side of them to those around them, but will exert a sense of disrespect toward those below them, and Cappy, is one of those people. Though this isn't an MMO, the concept is very true across multiple settings.

-1 I'm not afraid to say anything, and here I'll speak my mind. Countless moments in which 10 people will face palm in unison, and situations involving Cappy that make me cringe.

Is the xp for the same for fishing nets?

MC Name: sebasgann What is your name? Hrothland Irongut Where do you live? Hiebenhall What are your primary skills? Enchanting, WoodWorking Short biography: Hrothland was raised by Meganite inside of the Irongut clan halls reading piles upon piles of books. Hrothland was raised under the goal of becoming a future mage. Skip a few hundred years and Hrothland after his studies has searched far and wide for more knowledge on everything. Hrothland has spent most of his time writing experimental magic using magic in different applications, searching for interesting uses of magic that haven't been thought of. Around the present time he's come back to the Ironguts in Hiebenhall to seek refuge, so he can be with his kin and learn what he can of them and their studies in the arcane. How are you related to the Irongut Clan?: Melanite Irongut, daughter of Hiebe Irongut. Do you swear loyalty to the Irongut Clan Lord: Aye! OOC Do you agree to follow all the rules of the Irongut Clan? Yes Skype name? Already got me added Hobo :I

Don't forget stairs. you need 3 planks to make one stair, when the ratio before was something like 1.5 planks = 1 stair, but the current case is a 3 planks = 1 stair, double the MC cost to make a stair. I don't know if this is all intentional, I do however see, that it in a way could make sense. Perhaps in an effort to make stairs and slabs more valuable, they're made at an increased cost compared to vanilla. But, in making it more rare the whole idea of which ratio to use is relative to vanilla. I'd have liked it if they made them equal to vanilla, but I can see their reason for doing what they did.

LEGION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBZ3Uw3fabo With the settling of Athera, we have had a flush of new recruits and also a rise in the importance of the legion. With that being said, a practice will be held immediately in order to set the new ground rules for Athera. The practice will be held in the legion barracks in Kal’Agnar. If you have trouble finding Kal’Agnar follow the signs from spawn. The barracks is to your right when you enter the gate. THE PRACTICE WILL BE ON August 20th 2014, 4:00 PM EST Right now the roster stands with the following: In Cohort 1: Sharr Irongut (Legate) Odin Ireheart Roggar Ireheart Aleksis Grandaxe Hodor Grandae Lori Ireheart In Cohort 2: (Empty/to be assigned) In Cohort 3: Jorik Grandaxe (Legate) Olaf Ireheart Godrath Starbreaker Zapherius Starbreaker Sontar Adonis Starbreaker Yeulf Starbreaker Tylam Pilgrim Starbreaker Unassigned: Friers Thunderfist Andalac Irongut Faolan Brokkr Ireheart Chase Irongut Lathros Ironbeard Ellsia Thirrak Grandaxe Spriggar Stormhammer Sandor Grandaxe Norik Grandaxe Kailon Grandaxe Gamren ((If you are not on the list and have enlisted before message Joenaj, sebasgann, greener161, or Lordbobby123. If you are on the list we expect you to attend.. you did join after all.)) ((Give me OOC reason why you can’t make it THEN and ONLY then we will exempt you from punishment))

THE DWARVES GOT 5 #1 PLACES, YE BOIZ! PLUS OTHER PLACEMENTS BUT W00T! (Kitsunokage66 was kinda on dwarven lands and didn't wanna be witht he other elves, and blundlemore got most of his mats from da dwarves, so is that pretty much 7 1st place winners because of dwarves?) Most 1st place winners over any race?

"Atheria is Waiting" We waited longer.

There once was a dwarf, whom lived in Kal'Klad. This dwarf spent every breath breathing shape into the wood he crafted. One day, One day he felt the sudden urge to exemplify his greatest accomplishment to the world by creating something extraordinary. He spent the next few months, tirelessly collecting the finest wool money could buy. Hiring the best of lumberjacks for only the highest quality wood, fashioning the best string to sew the wood and fluffiest of feathers for an Aengulic experience. He shaped wood and sewed for days on end, often without rest until he finally achieved his aengulic accomplishment, his prized masterpiece. The best possible thing he would ever make that would be surpassed by none. http://gyazo.com/00fa47c5959d0f33eb46e5c2e7b08a0d

"If ye are nae on teh lis', but 'ave attended practoice in teh las' few days, consider yerself in teh Legion, but eht is still importan' to attend to eht, as eht will be teh larges' gatherin' o' legionnaires in teh las' few years o' teh dwarves. If ye are nae on teh lis', but attend to eht, ye can be added to teh rost'r an' considdered part o' teh Legion." ((Olaf you're on the list, that means you're in the legion, if you're on the list and you've attended a practice you're good, but still a good idea to show up.))

LEGION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBZ3Uw3fabo With the current reset of the legion ranks everyone will need to be reevaluated to gain ranks fitted to their understanding of the legion, their dedication and discipline to protecting the Kingdom of Urguan. As of today all members of the legion have had their ranks stripped from them except those who have participated in the last two practices. All commanding Officers and Longbeards are now Ironbreakers, and the rest of the legion have been demoted to Grunts. This is due to the removal of the Longbeard rank given the abnormal abundance of Longbeards. This is required due to the shameful display and lack of discipline of the members of the legion in the past few months. WE ARE A MILITARY NOT A RABBLE. Practices will be held at 4:00 PM EST nearly everyday, and when an officer sees fit. Tomorrow a role count will be held to determine who will be in the legion. Commanders and Legates will be chosen from the current ranks who have shown what it takes to lead the legion. The following men are EXPECTED to attend: Chase Irongut Odin Ireheart Roggar Ireheart Olaf Ireheart Sharr Irongut Lathros Ironbeard Aleksis Grandaxe Ellsia Lori Ireheart Thirrak Grandaxe Spriggar Ireheart Agnar Ireheart Wulfric Grandaxe Nidro Grandaxe Bronn Grandaxe Norik Grandaxe Sandor Grandaxe Godrath Starbreaker Gamren Eilrhac Adonis Sontar Zapherius Yeaulf Shneager If you are not on that list that means you did not sign up saying that you wanted to fight in the legion. I would suggest that you attend the practice so we may place you on that list. Do not bring dishonor to yourself by not attending the practice. You will not be permitted to serve in battles. If you are on that list, thank you, you are aligned to be in favor of being promoted. ATTEND BRING HONOR TO YOUR CLAN AND PROVE YOU ARE A REAL DWARF ((Give me OOC reason why you can’t make it THEN and ONLY then we will exempt you from punishment or removal from the legion))

So, I got Legendary Woodworker: http://imgur.com/a/Vd5Ob Aaaaaaand I don't get anything special. So I don't feel special...

"If the lore was changed a year ago and Dwarves knew then so I don't see the massive issue here" - we didn't know until like a month ago.

Just to point out, this discussion doesn't end after this thread dies, or is closed. To the LT looking at this we are going to continue fighting this until we get what we want passed. It really isn't that hard, so If I were you I'd start making some kind of plan to meet with the dwarves, or come into our TS and ask us of our opinions at some planned point so you can get as much of our opinion as you can before changing lore, of a race that you know nothing about, or have little to no experience without consulting any dwarves, who RP this kind of stuff when they're on the server, all day, every day.