Tentoa

I totally get where you're coming from, Panashea. There's a bit of a precedent, but I think there should at least be some itty-bitty IC consequence. Orcs aren't being slaughtered en masse, and dwarves have done very little IC in the way of negotiation or capitulation. Asking OOC for a place to dock at first wasn't really narratively compelling. When we went so far as to initiate talks IC before the war claim and offer the refugees a deal to get out unscathed and not be roped into a genocide, the guy we met and made the deal with broke his word immediately, and then again when we gave him a much harsher deal IC as a last chance gambit. 

I just think that it requires a little bit of IC effort so you can say 'We did literally everything we could and the world considers us as evil as baby-eating vampires because of XYZ' rather than just some OOC screenshots and half-baked IC attempts. There's still a chance for RP to fix this. I personally TRIED to craft a compelling IC circumstance for this to be avoided and it only failed because one guy flubbed the easiest negotiating W ever

I do agree with you however if it was any other race this would make sense. It's just a part of the dwarf rp to be as stubborn as a mule and be extremly prideful (at least for a lot of dwarves) and in order to join wider society my dude Thriku would have to renounce the Grand Kingdom which he will never do so instead I chill in the woods I don't blame narvi and them for picking leaving Urguan oocly I get it. It would just be very usual for my character to do any of that so instead he chooses geocide and that's a case with a lot of dwarves if nothing goes through they are just going to retire their characters and not much I can do about it cause I like I said it would not make sense for their characters to submit

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