Dreek

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Josh doesn't play on this server +1

Actually, it should be a factor. If you don't play a Dawrf but are trying to add a new piece of lore that shapes a portion of that race's culture, thats fucky. How would you implement said lore in an RP sense if you don't play with that community? How would you even know that that community would be open to that kind of rp opportunity?

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In fairness, Tristan has been playing his since I was king in late 2016, pr sure

The frostbeards, to my knowledge, still worship him as their main diety. So he isn't solely a snow elf, nor should he ever be if I'm honest. I appreciate you trying to be diplomatic and stating your personal intentions clearly, but buff' s statements worry me. Wyrvun did not need a rewrite, he did not need to be fleshed out. The aengul itself and and Ondnarch were entirely developed through in-game means. You cited that there were only a handful of lore docs publicly on him, that's because he is one of the few parts of the server left that was developed naturally. By creating this rewrite it destroys that special aspect that wyrvun and by effect ondnarch possess. That event line had the most impact on dwarves history in the entire servers history. This is a widely accepted truth held by those who were around then and are still in contact now. I'm not sure you, or buff or anyone else defending this rewrite understands that. There was nothing wrong with the current info on wyrvun. Sure, it may be a bit short on the forums, but it carries so much weight. Maybe it's because I don't like the new concept this server has of lore before roleplay, but I cannot stand by and let something the forms much of modern day dwarven history on the server be rewritten and adapted to fit a snow elf populace.

If that's true then fair enough, but I remember the lore zezimjs writing focusing on wyrvun being about purity, and ondnarch being more about the cold. And Suddenly retconning it ignores major server events in favor of rewrites

I don't know If some other lore rewrite cucked wyrvun while I wasn't paying attention, but there is way too much focus here on wyrvun being the snow ice whatever aengul. Wyrvun valued the purity of heart fron corruption, for obvious reasons, above all else. This was heavily intertwined with the event line I ran as well. It is, really, more true that it was ondnarch was far more focused on the deep cold than wyrvun was, and that wyrvun was instead the aengul of purity.

The final battle that took place was primarily made up of Dwarves who stormed through the deeproads(there may have been 1 or 2 snow elves(as dwarven vassals), but 20 to 30 dwarves). The armies of oren and krugmar battered down the gate of kal'azgoth after the dwarves had retaken the city proper. If we are speaking technically, the only person who fought ondnarch was Igor Ireheart who used the hammer of barradin. Several dwarves also fought him and lost earlier(dreek, random unnamed props, and thorin grandaxe).The phrasing here is very important, because this lore rewrite could override actual events that took place on the server. Buff mentions that he played an antag, but sorry buff but you were never a leader and only were asked to fill in as an actor at some times. The leaders of it were me dave and zezimus, with kowaman and dizzy providing imput. Malinor elves did partake, but only in the smaller battles to retake holds like kal'urir or minor deeproads battles

Seeing as it's official lore, it would be better to say that it was the hammer of barradin that purified wyruvn, not a myriad of divine weapons. I ran the event line for ondnarch and wyrvun's return, and still have all the documents zezimis and I created for wyrvun and ondnarch. I can supply them if you want.