Katanas And Its Weakness, Plate Armor, And Chainmail.

[Helvetius 314]

Sure, a Katana can cut through anything as the Americans say. That it is the greatest weapon ever! Well sure it is, if you are wearing chinese/japanese armor or no clothing. That is what it was designed for! A Katana against European armor is completely useless. It would bounce off with a 'ping'.

 

Now, Iron plated armor covers everything. The weaknesses being the hinges on the back of the knee which if you hit, it would jam the leg up. Other weak spots on the armor was the slits you see out of and under the armpits. Iron Armor is also slow at 60 pounds. Believe it or not the sides of your armor are not weak. In European Medieval times, broadswords and hacking objects of such would be virtually useless against Iron plated armor. Of course there would be concussions and of such without enough padding but thus is why maces, military picks, and spiked maces were invented. They were invented to smash the armored man, breaking his bones because his armor would almost never be penetrated by stabbing or slicing depending on its quality.

 

So what do you think a Katana would do as a slicing weapon? Sure, it is sharp. However what you would hear is a simple a 'ping' on the armor. It can piece of course due to its sharpness on occasions, but not deeply. It would be more of a shallow cut due to the invention of plated armor. Sure, it was fast, but could not penetrate European armor (As long as it was a decent or good quality). To help, there will be a video to show.

 

What about chainmail now? Well chainmail it also wouldn't do crap against unless you stabbed as chainmail's weakness is, of course, piercing. People who use katanas are generally fast but keep in mind that the man would have a shield so while this man holding the katana would be trying to stab you, you would just be trying to ram your shield into his face. However the basic problem of course would be concussion. Even if it doesn't pierce, it would most definitely break some ribs.

 

 

 

[Malaise 1570]

"Now listen here, you little runt." -The Edgemeister

[bungo 3965]

These katanas were not folded over a million times so they are inferior.

[Helvetius 314]

Even one that was folded over a million times would not cut through European Plate armor as long as the armor was made of decent or good quality. The better the quality, the less damage and the more pinging you would hear. Of course it can still slice through on rare occasions but it would not be deep.

[iris1612 1780]

Let me direct you to this video:

 

 

It has pretty much everything I need to say. Now before you start telling me "Oh, but Max, the metal armour in that was very thin! It wasn't /real/ plate mail!" I know that. A Katana, as you've pointed out, is nowhere near from the godly, all-powerful sword people make it out to be. However, it is far from pathetic. A Katana, as shown in the video, is a much better slicing and stabbing weapon than the longsword, but this doesn't mean it can pierce through plate. But again, calling it Pathetic is highly inaccurate

[Helvetius 314]

Yes but as said, you can't do anything to the man underneath. Yes, it is a good sword. However it still can't do anything to the man underneath. While mr. Japanese came underneath him as he raises his sword up to strike to strike, he strikes as it is about to come down. Nope. People invented hooked spears to drag knights in iron armor out of the lines away from the rest of the group to try to isolate them. Why? Because their armor was so fricking hard that they needed to ram a poleaxe into them, rip their helmet off, strike into the weak spots, ect...

 

--Changing name though just fer the sake of it.

[Zebanamana 410]

The katana vs. European sword discussion/argument is probably in the top ten of the worst things the internet has ever created

[Aislin 4354]

The katana vs. European sword discussion/argument is probably in the top ten of the worst things the internet has ever created

 

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[Wavejammers 328]

Stop trying to make Samurais going to happen.

 

It's not going to happen.

 

Just like Werewolves, Vampires, Shapeshifting,and Buzz Lightyear.

 

 

Really, no mater how much these Ideas are posted, and no matter how well they're written. They're not going to happen.

[Ctc9592 62]

Stop trying to make Samurais going to happen.

 

It's not going to happen.

 

Just like Werewolves, Vampires, Shapeshifting,and Buzz Lightyear.

 

 

Really, no mater how much these Ideas are posted, and no matter how well they're written. They're not going to happen.

 

*cough* Easterners *cough*

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

Samurai have happened but we're not the good almighty super master warrior race that so many people want to be. Just because you join the Easterners doesn't make you a super awesome warrior just makes you an Easterner. As for the Katana argument I just don't get into it all blades have faults. I'm mostly a realistic player when it comes to fighting but no one has the right to say to another player "Your type of sword can't get through my armour." that is all. Ps. Shouldn't really have a Katana outside of the Easterners as they are hard to craft.

[Samsan99 274]

Good and true ^,^ But both are good weapons for their regions.

BUT unlike the long sword the katana needing many years of training to be able to use it correctly if you didnt know how to use it almost perfectly the blade would shatter, break, bend and become useless while  the swords from europe has in mind most fighters are cannon fodder and would not have years of training 

 

 

Just as long as people don't bring up the folded 10 time makes it better.. it was only flooded as the japanese only had cheap "pig iron" compared to europe. it was folded to help remove some carbon if it was folded too much all the carbon would be removed and the blade useless 

[Will (TauFirewarrior) 2466]

Good and true ^,^ But both are good weapons for their regions.

BUT unlike the long sword the katana needing many years of training to be able to use it correctly if you didnt know how to use it almost perfectly the blade would shatter, break, bend and become useless while  the swords from europe has in mind most fighters are cannon fodder and would not have years of training 

 

 

Just as long as people don't bring up the folded 10 time makes it better.. it was only flooded as the japanese only had cheap "pig iron" compared to europe. it was folded to help remove some carbon if it was folded too much all the carbon would be removed and the blade useless 

Thank you someone who knows about the whole thing. I myself know the many weaknesses of the particular blade my character uses he rarely clashes his sword with a foes, if you really want to use a Katana my only advise is to adopt a fighting style that is more about dodging and avoiding strikes than trying to pierce through the armour.

[BannedRocket 15]

Let me direct you to this video:

 

 

It has pretty much everything I need to say. Now before you start telling me "Oh, but Max, the metal armour in that was very thin! It wasn't /real/ plate mail!" I know that. A Katana, as you've pointed out, is nowhere near from the godly, all-powerful sword people make it out to be. However, it is far from pathetic. A Katana, as shown in the video, is a much better slicing and stabbing weapon than the longsword, but this doesn't mean it can pierce through plate. But again, calling it Pathetic is highly inaccurate

Never, ever use that pathetically rigged and utterly terrible video as supporting evidence whatsoever. It is utterly false and inaccurate. They even made the swords out of different quality metals to what they would be forged with. The longsword even appears to have rust for christ's sake!

 

The katana really has no place on LotC, as most European armours render it nigh on useless. And what sort of armour does everyone wear, you may ask? European armour.

[-The Doctor- 65]

I thought we already went over this a long time ago, so let me reiterate.

 

The katana is in fact superior to a large array of European weaponry and armor. However, ones created in game are largely made by self proclaimed blacksmiths with a lack of knowledge on the topic. It takes an expert katana craftsman a course of more than a year to produce a single blade, and that's with the help of countless understudies. This isn't a weapon that can be made by any old blacksmith, it was made by someone who had poured their entire life into this art form. These so called katanas in LoTC would likely shatter on first contact. And wielding the thing is a whole skill in its self.

 

So in short, learn more about the weapon, you plebs.